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Feb 24, 2025 • 15min

Should You Leave the Mormon Church?

In a world where even well-intentioned advice from family can lead you astray, it's crucial to remember that true guidance comes from God—not from those whose perspectives are shaped by a false system. Many Mormon family members, though loving, may offer counsel that reflects their own beliefs rather than the unchanging truth of Scripture.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --Should You Leave the Mormon Church? Every believer faces moments of decision when the question arises: “How do I know if it’s God’s voice or just my own thoughts?” In today’s world—where even our closest friends and family can unintentionally mislead us—it’s essential to learn from Scripture and the example of Paul. His journey, recorded in Acts 21–22 (NLT), offers profound insight into discerning God’s will even when it challenges our most deeply held attachments.The Challenge of Discerning God’s VoiceThe Bible reminds us in Jeremiah 17:9–10 (NLT) that “the human heart is the most deceitful of all things… But I, the LORD, search all hearts and examine secret motives.” Our own desires, combined with well-meaning advice, can cloud our judgment and make it difficult to distinguish between our thoughts and God’s true direction. Often, we listen for what we want to hear rather than what God is actually saying to us.Paul’s Journey: A Model for Spiritual DiscernmentIn Acts 20:22–23 (NLT), Paul declares, “I am bound by the Spirit… I don’t know what awaits me except that jail and suffering lie ahead.” Yet, as he continued his journey, Paul encountered conflicting messages. In Acts 21:4 (NLT), local believers, moved by the Holy Spirit, warned him not to go to Jerusalem, and later, Agabus’s dramatic prophecy (Acts 21:10–12, NLT) further complicated matters. Despite these warnings, Paul’s unwavering commitment to Jesus led him to boldly proclaim, “The Lord’s will be done” (Acts 21:13–14, NLT). His example teaches us that true clarity comes not from a momentary decision but from a lifelong dedication to following Jesus.The “Friendship Effect” and Ruinous EmpathyEven those who care for us deeply—our best friends and loving parents—can sometimes offer advice that reflects their own desires rather than God’s truth. This “friendship effect” or “ruinous empathy” can lure us into staying in familiar yet spiritually compromising situations. When seeking God’s guidance, it is crucial to remember that the Holy Spirit speaks above every other voice, urging us toward the unfiltered truth of God’s Word rather than comforting but ultimately misleading opinions.Leaving the Mormon Church: A Call to True DiscipleshipFor those questioning, “Should you leave the Mormon church?” the answer is found in a commitment to discerning God’s voice with clarity and conviction. When we compare the unyielding call of Paul with the complex and sometimes deceptive counsel we receive from those within our communities, it becomes clear that a life devoted to Jesus demands obedience—even if that means leaving behind institutions that stray from biblical truth. From an evangelical perspective, the Mormon church’s teachings and practices often diverge from the foundational truths of Scripture. Just as Paul was willing to face suffering for the sake of the gospel (Acts 9:15–16, NLT; Acts 14:22, NLT), so must we be prepared to make difficult decisions that honor the true voice of God in our lives.Embracing a Lifelong Commitment to JesusDiscerning God’s voice isn’t a one-time event; it’s the fruit of a lifelong commitment to Christ. By immersing ourselves in God’s Word, praying for discernment, and surrounding ourselves with godly counsel, we cultivate the spiritual sensitivity needed to distinguish His voice from our own thoughts. Paul’s example reminds us that following Jesus may require rejecting the comfortable and familiar in favor of a more challenging, yet rewarding, path toward eternal truth.ConclusionIn our journey of faith, we must be willing to listen carefully to the voice of the Holy Spirit and not be swayed by well-meaning but misguided counsel. When the call to follow Jesus demands that you leave behind teachings and communities that do not align with Scripture, the answer is clear: yes, you should leave the Mormon church.
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Feb 17, 2025 • 37min

The Trinity and the Council at Nicaea

The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the foundational beliefs of Christianity, affirming that God exists as three persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—yet is one in essence. However, misconceptions abound regarding its origins, particularly concerning the role of the Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325), Emperor Constantine, and the Arian controversy. Some claim the Trinity was invented at Nicaea or imposed by Constantine, but history tells a different story.Watch the conversation between Mike Winger and Wes Huff.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the foundational beliefs of Christianity, affirming that God exists as three persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—yet is one in essence. However, misconceptions abound regarding its origins, particularly concerning the role of the Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325), Emperor Constantine, and the Arian controversy. Some claim the Trinity was invented at Nicaea or imposed by Constantine, but history tells a different story.1. Was the Trinity Invented at Nicaea?A common myth is that the doctrine of the Trinity was created at the Council of Nicaea. In reality, the core concept of God’s triune nature existed long before the fourth century. The early church fathers, including Tertullian (A.D. 160–225) and Origen (A.D. 185–253), wrote extensively about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as distinct persons sharing one divine essence. The Council of Nicaea did not introduce the idea but clarified it in response to the Arian controversy.2. The Arian Controversy: Was Jesus a Created Being?Arius, a presbyter from Alexandria, taught that Jesus was not eternally God but a created being who was exalted above all creation. This view directly contradicted Scripture, which presents Jesus as fully divine (John 1:1, Colossians 2:9, Hebrews 1:3). Arianism gained traction, prompting a theological crisis that led Emperor Constantine to convene the Council of Nicaea. The council decisively rejected Arianism, affirming that Christ is "of the same essence" (homoousios) as the Father. This was not a new doctrine but a reaffirmation of what the church had always believed.3. Did Constantine Impose the Trinity?Another misconception is that Emperor Constantine imposed the doctrine of the Trinity for political reasons. While Constantine did call the council to promote unity in the empire, he did not dictate its theological outcome. He initially leaned toward Arian sympathies but ultimately accepted the Nicene Creed, which was formulated by church leaders based on Scripture, not imperial decree. The council’s decision reflected the consensus of bishops from across the Christian world, not a political mandate.4. The Trinity: A Biblical Doctrine, Not a Man-Made OneDespite arguments that the Trinity is a later theological development, the doctrine is firmly rooted in Scripture. Passages such as Matthew 28:19 (“baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”) and 2 Corinthians 13:14 (“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all”) clearly present a triune understanding of God. The doctrine of the Trinity is not an invention of the church but a faithful reflection of biblical revelation.Mormon Beliefs About the TrinityMormons (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or LDS Church) reject the traditional Christian doctrine of the Trinity as formulated in the Nicene Creed (AD 325). Instead, they believe in the Godhead as three distinct, separate beings: God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Ghost, who are "one" in purpose rather than being one in substance.Latter-day Saints reject the idea that God is of one essence or being (homoousios) as defined in the Nicene Creed. Instead, they believe:God the Father and Jesus Christ are two separate, corporeal beings with glorified bodies of flesh and bone.The Holy Ghost is a separate personage of spirit.They are perfectly united in will, purpose, and power, but not in physical being.Joseph Smith, the founder of the LDS Church, emphasized the distinctness of the Father and the Son in his First Vision account, where he claimed to have seen both of them as separate beings:“I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—‘This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!’” (Joseph Smith—History 1:17, Pearl of Great Price)LDS Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland reinforced this belief:"We believe these divine persons are three distinct beings, but they are one in purpose, in love, and in desire to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of all mankind." (Jeffrey R. Holland, General Conference, October 2007)Mormon Views on the Council of NicaeaThe LDS Church generally views the Council of Nicaea (AD 325) as a departure from original Christian teachings. Mormons believe that after the deaths of the original apostles, doctrinal corruption entered Christianity, which they call the Great Apostasy.Joseph Smith spoke critically of creeds, including Nicene Christianity:“I cannot believe in any of the creeds of the different denominations, because they all have some things in them I cannot subscribe to. Though all have a little truth, all are wrong, when taken in their entirety.” (Joseph Smith, quoted in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 327)A modern LDS leader, Bruce R. McConkie, called the Nicene Creed a philosophical distortion:“The Creeds of Christendom codify what Jeremiah calls ‘the lies’ which ‘have inherited’ from past ages. They say that the Father is unknowable, incomprehensible, and without body, parts, or passions. This is false.” (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 269)LDS scholar James E. Talmage also criticized the Nicene formulation:“The establishment of the Church of Christ upon the earth was followed by a widespread apostasy. The simplicity of the Gospel was corrupted, and unauthorized changes were made in its structure.” (James E. Talmage, The Great Apostasy, 1909, p. 79)Mormons reject the traditional doctrine of the Trinity in favor of a belief in a distinct, embodied Father and Son, with the Holy Ghost as a separate spirit being. They view the Council of Nicaea as part of an apostate deviation from early Christianity, replacing simple, biblical truths with Greek philosophical constructs.TakeawayThe Trinity is not a man-made doctrine imposed at Nicaea but a biblical truth affirmed throughout church history. The Council of Nicaea addressed the Arian controversy by defending what Christians had always believed: that Jesus Christ is fully God. Constantine did not create or enforce the Trinity; rather, the church, guided by Scripture and the Holy Spirit, defended it against heresy. Understanding these historical realities helps believers stand firm in the truth and proclaim the gospel with clarity and conviction.The Edict of Toleration and the Council of Nicaea are connected through the broader historical context of the legalization and eventual promotion of Christianity in the Roman Empire during the early 4th century.1. The Edicts of Toleration and Legalization of ChristianityBefore the Council of Nicaea (AD 325), Christianity had suffered periods of persecution under the Roman Empire. However, this changed through a series of imperial decrees known as Edicts of Toleration, which granted legal status to Christianity:Edict of Toleration (AD 311) – Issued by Emperor Galerius, this decree officially ended the Diocletianic Persecution (303–311) and allowed Christians to practice their faith, though with restrictions. Galerius, once a fierce persecutor, acknowledged that his efforts to suppress Christianity had failed, stating: “Wherefore, for this our indulgence, they ought to pray to their God for our safety, for that of the republic, and for their own.” (Lactantius, On the Deaths of the Persecutors, 34)Edict of Milan (AD 313) – Issued by Constantine the Great (Western Roman Emperor) and Licinius (Eastern Roman Emperor), this decree expanded religious freedom, granting full legal rights to Christians and restoring confiscated property. It declared: “We have resolved to grant to both the Christians and to all others full authority to follow whatever worship each man has desired.” (Lactantius, On the Deaths of the Persecutors, 48)2. Connection to the Council of Nicaea (AD 325)The Edict of Milan set the stage for the Council of Nicaea by legalizing Christianity and giving it imperial favor. This had several important consequences:Christianity Became an Imperial Concern – With Christianity now legally protected, internal theological disputes (such as the Arian controversy) became an issue of state unity. Constantine sought to unify Christian doctrine to maintain stability in the empire.Constantine’s Role in Christian Affairs – Though not yet baptized, Constantine saw Christianity as a tool for unifying the empire. He convened the Council of Nicaea in AD 325 to settle the dispute over Arianism (the belief that Jesus was not of the same essence as the Father).Shift from Persecuted Sect to Imperial Religion – Before the edicts of toleration, Christians faced martyrdom for their faith. After Nicaea, Christianity moved toward becoming the dominant state religion, culminating in Emperor Theodosius I’s Edict of Thessalonica (AD 380), which made Nicene Christianity the official faith of the Roman Empire.ConclusionThe Edict of Toleration (311) and the Edict of Milan (313) paved the way for Christianity’s legal acceptance, leading directly to the Council of Nicaea (325). The council, convened by Constantine, sought to resolve theological disputes within a now imperially recognized and favored Christian Church, marking the transition from a persecuted minority faith to a religion closely tied to imperial authority.The word "Trinity" (Latin: Trinitas) was not used at the Council of Nicaea (AD 325). While the council affirmed the divinity of Jesus Christ and his oneness in essence (homoousios) with the Father, the formal doctrine of the Trinity as later articulated was still developing.What Nicaea Did DefineThe primary purpose of the Council of Nicaea was to address the Arian controversy, which questioned whether Jesus was divine in the same way as God the Father. The council produced the Nicene Creed, which affirmed:Jesus Christ is "of one substance" (homoousios) with the Father.He was "begotten, not made," countering Arius' teaching that Christ was a created being.However, the full Trinitarian doctrine—which includes the co-equality and co-eternality of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—was not fully articulated until the Council of Constantinople (AD 381), which expanded the Nicene Creed and explicitly included the Holy Spirit.Development of the Word "Trinity"The Council of Constantinople (AD 381) is the council that formally established the doctrine of the Trinity as understood in mainstream Christianity.Key Contributions of the Council of Constantinople (381):Expanded the Nicene Creed – The council reaffirmed and expanded the Nicene Creed (325) to include a more detailed statement on the Holy Spirit, confirming His divinity and personhood. This later version is often called the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed.Declared the Holy Spirit as Fully Divine – While Nicaea (325) focused on the Son's divinity (homoousios – "of the same essence" as the Father), Constantinople affirmed that the Holy Spirit is also fully God, proceeding from the Father.Condemned Various Heresies – The council rejected:Arianism, which denied Christ’s full divinity.Macedonianism (Pneumatomachianism), which denied the Holy Spirit's divinity.Completed the Trinitarian Formula – While the term "Trinity" was used earlier (e.g., by Tertullian in the 2nd century), the Council of Constantinople formally established the doctrine that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-equal, co-eternal, and of the same divine essence (homoousios).The Final Form of the Trinitarian DoctrineThe Council of Constantinople solidified the Trinitarian formula still used in Christian theology today:One God in three persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit, all distinct but fully divine and of the same essence.This doctrine was reaffirmed in later councils, including:The Council of Ephesus (431) – affirmed Christ as fully God and fully man in one person.The Council of Chalcedon (451) – defined the two natures of Christ (divine and human).The Second Council of Constantinople (553) – further clarified Trinitarian theology.ConclusionWhile the Council of Nicaea (325) established Christ’s divinity, the Council of Constantinople (381) formally established the doctrine of the Trinity, defining the Holy Spirit as divine and confirming the Trinitarian view that remains central to Christian orthodoxy today.
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Feb 14, 2025 • 46min

Five More Marks of a Healthy Church (Acts 20) - The PursueGOD Truth Podcast

Welcome back to the podcast! We've previously looked at seven marks of a healthy church in Acts 2:42, and today we'll revisit that topic. We're going to look at five more marks to help you view your own church, or a church you're curious about, through a biblical lens!--The PursueGOD Truth podcast is the “easy button” for making disciples – whether you’re looking for resources to lead a family devotional, a small group at church, or a one-on-one mentoring relationship. Join us for new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --Q. How do I know if a church is healthy? This is a question we get all the time when people are moving to a new areaWhat should you look for in a church? How do you know it’s functioning biblically?To be sure: there is no perfect church out thereToday’s message is not intended to be overly criticalBut there are healthy churches and there are unhealthy churchesAnd the litmus test is easier than you thinkNote: We answered this the first time back in Acts 2The question for that lesson was: How Do You Grow a Church?The basic idea was that healthy things growThe seven marks of the early church, a healthy, growing church: baptisms, biblical teaching, authentic community, commitment to prayer, financial generosity, friendliness to outsiders, and dependency on Christ. Acts 2:42-47Today we’re going to answer the question againThis time almost 30 years laterThe events in Acts 2 take place around 30 AD, the year of the Ascension. The events in Acts 20 take place during Paul's third missionary journey, which occurred around 53–57 AD.Paul is sharing his final thoughts with the elders in Ephesus. We’ll extract 5 marks of a healthy church. Acts 20:16-17 (NLT) 16 Paul had decided to sail on past Ephesus, for he didn’t want to spend any more time in the province of Asia. He was hurrying to get to Jerusalem, if possible, in time for the Festival of Pentecost. 17 But when we landed at Miletus, he sent a message to the elders of the church at Ephesus, asking them to come and meet him.Didn’t want to be delayed by the church, but sent for eldersI get it! Hard to get out of church sometimes because of all the relationships!So he sent only for the eldersIn a hurry: Probably because he was bringing offering for the believers in JerusalemPaul wrote Romans from Corinth during the timeframe of Acts 20Romans 15:25-27 (NLT) 25 But before I come [to Rome], I must go to Jerusalem to take a gift to the believers there. 26 For you see, the believers in Macedonia and Achaia have eagerly taken up an offering for the poor among the believers in Jerusalem. 27 They were glad to do this because they feel they owe a real debt to them. Since the Gentiles received the spiritual blessings of the Good News from the believers in Jerusalem, they feel the least they can do in return is to help them financially.Pentecost marked the birth of the church (Acts 2)But it probably also brought on hardships for Jewish ChristiansSo the Gentile believers wanted to bless them!Acts 20:18-20 (NLT) 18 When they arrived he declared, “You know that from the day I set foot in the province of Asia until now 19 I have done the Lord’s work humbly and with many tears. I have endured the trials that came to me from the plots of the Jews. 20 I never shrank back from telling you what you needed to hear, either publicly or in your homes.”V20 gives us the first sign to look for in a healthy church: preaching that is committed to speaking the truth, even when it’s unpopular. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NLT) 3 For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will reject the truth and chase after myths.Many churches these days buy into popular, progressive ideology and take a low view of scripture. Watch out for these signs of progressive (woke) “Christianity”:The Bible is treated as a historical document shaped by human biases rather than as the inspired, authoritative Word of God.Traditional biblical teachings on sexuality are dismissed as outdated or oppressive.Hell, judgment, and exclusivity of Christ are often softened or denied.Evangelism is seen as arrogant or colonialist rather than a biblical mandate."Deconstruction" of faith is encouraged, leading many to abandon core Christian beliefs.Paul didn’t fall for this, and neither should we.Acts 20:26-27 (NLT) 26 I declare today that I have been faithful. If anyone suffers eternal death, it’s not my fault, 27 for I didn’t shrink from declaring all that God wants you to know.At Alpine:That’s why we did the “Kingdom Politics” seriesAt Alpine we’re committed to speaking the truth, even when it’s unpopular. That’s the first mark of a healthy churchHere’s the second mark: preaching that invites a response to the gospel.Acts 20:21 (NLT) 21 I have had one message for Jews and Greeks alike—the necessity of repenting from sin and turning to God, and of having faith in our Lord Jesus.Look at how simply Paul enumerates the two-part response to the gospel: repent and believe.This has been the simple gospel invitation for 2,000 years. Go back through all the sermons we’ve studied in Acts, and you’ll see this repeated:Peter’s first sermon (Pentecost): Acts 2:38 “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God….”Peter’s second sermon (temple): Acts 3:19 “Now repent of your sins and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped away.”Peter to Cornelius: Acts 10:43 “...everyone who believes in him will have their sins forgiven through his name.”Paul’s first missionary journey: Acts 13:38-39 (NLT) We are here to proclaim that through this man Jesus there is forgiveness for your sins. 39 Everyone who believes in him is made right in God’s sight—something the law of Moses could never do.Paul’s second missionary journey (in Athens): Acts 17:30 (NLT) 30 “God… commands everyone everywhere to repent of their sins and turn to him.”Biblical preaching doesn’t just offer information. It invites transformation through a simple response to the gospel message of Jesus.Repentance = right attitude toward God“Change of mind” - I want to go his way nowMany churches avoid this, never call out sinMake it a social clubChange the focus instead to prosperityHere’s what’s in it for you…Faith = trusting that Jesus is LORDJesus is Messiah – preached to Jewish audiencesJesus is Lord – preached to both Jews and GentilesBold statement to JewsHe’s more than you thought the Messiah would be!(Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Abridged Edition (2 Volumes)) The title “Lord” was also proclaimed christologically in Jewish circles, with evident intent to apply to Jesus all that was said of God in the OTPreaching that invites a response to the gospel - that’s the second mark of a healthy churchIf your church never invites people to repent and believe, find another church!The third mark expands on this: Acts 20:24 (NLT) 24 But my life is worth nothing to me unless I use it for finishing the work assigned me by the Lord Jesus—the work of telling others the Good News about the wonderful grace of God.The third mark is preaching that elevates the power behind the gospel: grace. It’s too easy to get the wrong idea that salvation is to our own credit.That we can work for our right standing before GodAlmost every other world religion teaches some form of thisEx: In Islam, the concept of scales (Mīzān, ميزان) is central to the belief in divine justice and accountability on the Day of Judgment (Yawm al-Qiyāmah). The scales symbolize the weighing of a person's deeds—both good and bad—to determine their eternal fate.Surah Al-Qari’ah (101:6-9) “Then as for him whose scales are heavy [with good deeds], he will be in a pleasant life. But as for him whose scales are light, his refuge will be the Abyss.”Ephesians 2:8-9 (NLT) 8 God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.The power behind the good news of the Bible is God’s grace. Pure gift. All credit goes to him. This is what Paul preached increasingly in his ministry! Acts 20:32 (NLT) 32 “And now I entrust you to God and the message of his grace that is able to build you up and give you an inheritance with all those he has set apart for himself.”It’s the essential third mark of a healthy, biblical church.If your church doesn’t preach it, find another church.The first three marks were about preaching. The last two marks are about leadership. Acts 20:28-30 (NLT) 28 “So guard yourselves and God’s people. Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as leaders. 29 I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave, not sparing the flock. 30 Even some men from your own group will rise up and distort the truth in order to draw a following.The fourth mark is healthy church leadership that is committed to doing their job: shepherding the flock and protecting it from false teachers. Acts 20:28-30Legalism on one side: 1 Timothy 4:1-3 (NLT) 1 Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. 2 These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead. 3 They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods.Liberalism on the other: 2 Timothy 3:1-2 (NLT) 1 You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. 2 For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. Health church leadership protects the flock from both extremes.The final mark of a healthy church has to do with how leaders handle money:Acts 20:33-34 (NLT) 33 “I have never coveted anyone’s silver or gold or fine clothes. 34 You know that these hands of mine have worked to supply my own needs and even the needs of those who were with me.”The fifth mark is church leadership that stewards finances well.This doesn’t mean you can’t pay your pastors. 1 Timothy 5:17-18 (NLT) 17 Elders who do their work well should be respected and paid well, especially those who work hard at both preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture says, “You must not muzzle an ox to keep it from eating as it treads out the grain.” And in another place, “Those who work deserve their pay!”It does mean that your pastors shouldn’t be in it for the money. 1 Timothy 6:9-11 (NLT) 9 But people who long to be rich fall into temptation and are trapped by many foolish and harmful desires that plunge them into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows. 11 But you, Timothy, are a man of God; so run from all these evil things. Pursue righteousness and a godly life, along with faith, love, perseverance, and gentleness.This is a warning to all Christians!CloseQ. How do I know if a church is healthy? Look for these five marks:preaching that is committed to speaking the truth, even when it’s unpopular. preaching that invites a response to the gospel: repentance and faith. preaching that acknowledges the power behind the gospel: grace.leadership that is committed to shepherding the flock and protecting it from false teachers.leadership that stewards finances well.
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Feb 10, 2025 • 18min

5 Podcasts Worth Listening to in 2025

In the fast-paced digital world, podcasts have become an invaluable resource for knowledge, inspiration, and entertainment. If you're looking for insightful discussions on faith, culture, and apologetics, here are five must-listen podcasts for 2025.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --In the fast-paced digital world, podcasts have become an invaluable resource for knowledge, inspiration, and entertainment. If you're looking for insightful discussions on faith, culture, and apologetics, here are five must-listen podcasts for 2025.1. CultishIf you're fascinated by the world of cults, Cultish is the perfect deep dive into the minds and methods of cult leaders and their followers. This podcast explores the theological, sociological, and psychological impacts of cult movements. With thought-provoking analysis and expert insights, Cultish provides a compelling look at how these groups shape and influence people’s lives.2. The Alisa Childers PodcastNavigating the challenges of Progressive Christianity and skeptical arguments against the gospel can be difficult. The Alisa Childers Podcast offers a biblically grounded response to these pressing issues. With Alisa’s insightful commentary and interviews, this podcast equips listeners with the tools to defend their faith and engage with modern theological debates from a biblical worldview.3. Relatable with Allie Beth StuckeyFor an engaging and fresh take on news, politics, theology, and culture, Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey is an excellent choice. Allie provides thoughtful analysis from a Christian, conservative perspective, breaking down current events in a way that is both informative and entertaining. Her podcast is perfect for those who want to stay informed while maintaining a biblical perspective on today’s hottest topics.4. The AC Podcast (Apologetics Canada) with Wes HuffApologetics is essential for engaging with today’s skeptical world, and The AC Podcast provides an excellent platform for understanding and articulating the Christian faith. Hosted by Wes Huff and the Apologetics Canada team, this podcast helps believers engage with culture thoughtfully, honestly, and respectfully. Whether discussing tough theological questions or addressing societal issues, this podcast is a valuable resource for defending the Christian worldview.5. Bible Thinker with Mike Winger (No Ads)If you’re looking for clear, in-depth Bible teaching, Bible Thinker with Mike Winger is a must-listen. Covering theology, apologetics, and verse-by-verse studies, Mike Winger tackles even the most controversial topics with clarity and a commitment to biblical accuracy. This podcast is perfect for anyone who wants to grow in their faith, deepen their understanding of Scripture, and learn how to think biblically about all aspects of life.Bonus: The Family Podcast (No Ads)For those looking to strengthen their family life, The Family Podcast with Tracy and Bryan Dwyer offers practical insights into marriage, parenting, and family relationships. With weekly discussions and additional resources available at pursueGOD.org/family, this podcast is a great tool for fostering a healthier and more faith-centered home environment.Whether you’re interested in apologetics, theology, culture, or family life, these podcasts offer valuable insights to equip and encourage you in 2025. Give them a listen and enrich your faith journey!
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Feb 7, 2025 • 35min

What Is the Right Response to Sin? (Acts 19) - The PursueGOD Truth Podcast

Welcome back to the pod! Today we’re covering Acts 19, so open your Bibles. Here’s the question we’ll answer: What Is the Right Response to Sin?--The PursueGOD Truth podcast is the “easy button” for making disciples – whether you’re looking for resources to lead a family devotional, a small group at church, or a one-on-one mentoring relationship. Join us for new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --Q. What Is the Right Response to Sin?We all sin; it’s our response to sin that matters mostSee 10 Sinful Responses to SinMinimizing Sin: “It’s no big deal.”Rationalizing Sin: “He deserved it.”Blame-Shifting: “She made me.”Codifying Sin: “It’s a condition, not a sin.”Worldly Grief: “Sorry I got caught.”Today in our text (Acts 19) we’re going to see two groups of peopleWho were confronted with their sin problem and had a choice to make One group is an example of what to doThe other group, what NOT to doThe context for the chapter is one particular sin: sorceryBut the lessons apply to everyone, everywhereThe Set UpActs 19:11-12 (NLT) 11 God gave Paul the power to perform unusual miracles. 12 When handkerchiefs or aprons that had merely touched his skin were placed on sick people, they were healed of their diseases, and evil spirits were expelled.We’re in Ephesus, a renowned center of occult practices in the ancient Greco-Roman world.To the secular world, miracles look like magicWe saw this with Peter and his shadow (Acts 5), Philip and Simon Magus (Acts 8) The point: Jesus>magic (understatement)Acts 19 (NLT) 13 A group of Jews was traveling from town to town casting out evil spirits. They tried to use the name of the Lord Jesus in their incantation, saying, “I command you in the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, to come out!” Note: they weren’t followers of Jesus, but they were using his name as an incantation.Reminiscent of the "Ephesian Letters" (Greek: Ἐφέσια γράμματα, Ephesia grammata) – a set of words or symbols believed in antiquity to possess magical power. These were often inscribed on amulets, statues, or other objects. The exact content of the Ephesian Letters is debated, but ancient sources suggest they were a group of six mystical words: Askion, Kataskion, Lix, Tetrax, Damnameneus, AisiaThese words were considered meaningless in everyday language but were thought to hold esoteric significance, potentially tied to ancient rituals or the invocation of supernatural powers. Some scholars believe they were connected to the worship of Artemis of Ephesus, the city's patron goddess.These Jewish exorcists were using Jesus’ name like it was one of these six mystical words.Acts 19:14-16 (NLT) 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a leading priest, were doing this. 15 But one time when they tried it, the evil spirit replied, “I know Jesus, and I know Paul, but who are you?” 16 Then the man with the evil spirit leaped on them, overpowered them, and attacked them with such violence that they fled from the house, naked and battered.The Sons of Sceva attempted to invoke the name of Jesus without genuine faith in Jesus, treating it as a magical formula for their own gain. They did not believe in Jesus or recognize His authority as Lord; instead, they saw His name as a tool to enhance their reputation as exorcists.Essentially "taking the Lord's name in vain" (from the Third Commandment, Exodus 20:7)Acts 19:17 (Pillar New Testament Commentary) The ignominious defeat of the Jewish exorcists by the demon showed the Ephesians that 'Jesus' is a power that cannot be controlled: 'he will not act as a lackey for anyone who calls on his name.'So that’s the backdrop for our two groups today. Magic vs. Miracles in Ephesus. Let’s meet our first group.The First GroupActs 19:17-19 (NLT) 17b A solemn fear descended on the city, and the name of the Lord Jesus was greatly honored. 18 Many who became believers confessed their sinful practices. 19 A number of them who had been practicing sorcery brought their incantation books and burned them at a public bonfire. The value of the books was several million dollars. 20 So the message about the Lord spread widely and had a powerful effect.Acts 19:18 (Pillar New Testament Commentary) Apparently they were moved by the exposure and overcoming of the exorcists to realize that their own previous involvement with the magic arts now needed to be acknowledged. Perhaps they had kept scrolls in which spells were written as an insurance policy, in case their new-found faith proved to be inadequate in some situation! Burning the scrolls was a way of repudiating what they contained and represented a greater trust in God to deliver them from trouble and supply their needs.Let’s summarize this group’s response to sin:They feared the Lord.We talked about this back in Acts 4: The fear of the Lord is a reverent awe of God.(acknowledged power and sovereignty)They confessed and disclosed their sin.I know the NLT say “confessed”, but the original Gk expands on it:exomologoumenoi kai anangellontes, 'confessing and disclosing'Confessed = to say the same thing (as God)Disclosed = exposed it to the light, truth. They didn’t…Minimize it: “It’s no big deal.”Rationalize it: “He deserved it.”Codify it: “It’s a condition, not a sin.”Blame-Shift: “She made me.”They disclosed it. Admitted it. Put it out there. They destroyed their old ways. Militant! This is war!Burned the incantation books in a bonfireThese might have been the mysterious and magical “Ephesian Letters”. Wasn’t just Worldly Grief: “Sorry I got caught.”They did something about it. I have decided to follow Jesus… No turning back, no turning back.The result:Acts 19:20 So the message about the Lord spread widely and had a powerful effect.The word of the Lord grewMightilyAnd it prevailed.  It overcame.  It tore down strongholds.  It grew.  It spread.The Second GroupThe second group we meet begins in verse 24.Acts 19:23-27 (NLT) 23 About that time, serious trouble developed in Ephesus concerning the Way. 24 It began with Demetrius, a silversmith who had a large business manufacturing silver shrines of the Greek goddess Artemis. He kept many craftsmen busy. 25 He called them together, along with others employed in similar trades, and addressed them as follows: “Gentlemen, you know that our wealth comes from this business. 26 But as you have seen and heard, this man Paul has persuaded many people that handmade gods aren’t really gods at all. And he’s done this not only here in Ephesus but throughout the entire province! 27 Of course, I’m not just talking about the loss of public respect for our business. I’m also concerned that the temple of the great goddess Artemis will lose its influence and that Artemis—this magnificent goddess worshiped throughout the province of Asia and all around the world—will be robbed of her great prestige!”Notice their response:Instead of fearing God, they feared losing money. Instead of confessing their sin, they pointed fingers.Paul’s the problem, not us Paul persuaded and turned away…….Instead of disclosing their sin, they defended it.Vs 27  Temple of the great goddess, Artemis will be regarded as worthless and be dethroned if we don’t do somethingInstead of destroying their old way, they worshiped it even more.Acts 19:28 (NLT) 28 At this their anger boiled, and they began shouting, “Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!”Took action to maintain idols rather than destroy them.The result:Acts 19:32 (NLT) 32 Inside, the people were all shouting, some one thing and some another. Everything was in confusion. In fact, most of them didn’t even know why they were there.In Gk: “The assembly was in confusion”Assembly = ekklēsiaSame word as church elsewhere in Acts!When you respond to sin with more sin…you join a different group, a different “church”: the worldThey have their own beliefs, values etcThey go against God’s word, and anything goesThe result: confusion CloseQ. What Is Your Response to Sin?Like the second group:Pointing fingersDefending your sinEnding up confused and in the worldOr like the first group: Fearing GodConfessing and disclosing your sinDestroying your old wayExperiencing the “powerful effect” of the message of Jesus
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Feb 3, 2025 • 45min

Bo and KD's Story: The Seminary Teacher Who Left the LDS Church

We're re-running the incredible story of Bo and KD, co-hosts of this podcast who came to faith just over two years ago!--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --
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Jan 27, 2025 • 44min

Do Mormons Believe in Heavenly Mother? (LDS Gospel Topics)

In this episode, Bryan, Bo and KD talk about the Mother in Heaven LDS Gospel Topic. Find the article here. --The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --The "Mother in Heaven" doctrine in Mormon theology, which teaches the existence of a divine mother alongside God the Father, has been a subject of discussion and controversy within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). While the LDS Church officially affirms this doctrine, it remains somewhat vague and underdeveloped in official teachings. Several key arguments against or critiques of the "Mother in Heaven" doctrine are as follows:1. Lack of Scriptural SupportCritics argue that the concept of a "Mother in Heaven" is not explicitly taught in the Bible or the Book of Mormon. There are no direct references to a divine mother figure in these scriptures. While some Latter-day Saints cite passages that imply a heavenly mother (such as references to the "Heavenly Father" and his "children"), these passages are not specific to a maternal deity. Critics contend that the doctrine is an extrapolation based on theological assumptions rather than scriptural foundation.2. Ambiguity in DoctrineThe doctrine of a Mother in Heaven has not been systematically developed or defined in LDS teachings. Official statements by church leaders are rare and often vague, leading to concerns about its theological and doctrinal clarity. Some critics argue that the lack of detailed teaching about her nature, role, and relationship to God the Father makes it difficult for members to fully understand or engage with the doctrine.There is a practical concern about the limited role that the Mother in Heaven plays in LDS worship and rituals. Critics argue that while her existence may be acknowledged, she is not directly involved in the faith practices of members, such as prayer or temple rituals. This leads to questions about her relevance within the broader framework of Mormon worship and theology, raising concerns that her role might be more symbolic than substantive.3. Historical Silence and InconsistencyHistorically, early LDS leaders (including Joseph Smith) did not explicitly teach about a Mother in Heaven, and the concept was rarely mentioned for many years. The doctrine became more prominent in the 20th century but remains less central than other aspects of LDS theology. Critics argue that this historical silence and inconsistency undermine the claim that the concept is an essential or deeply rooted part of Mormon belief.4. Theological Concerns about Gender RolesSome critics view the doctrine as reinforcing traditional gender roles by placing women in a subordinate position to God the Father. They argue that, by emphasizing the distinction between the Father and the Mother in Heaven, the doctrine may inadvertently reinforce ideas of patriarchal hierarchy. Others contend that it fails to offer a robust theological vision of women’s equality with men, especially given the traditional gender roles often ascribed to women in the LDS Church.5. HeresyIn traditional Christian theology, God the Father is often portrayed as the singular, omnipotent deity, without the need for a divine consort. Some critics argue that introducing a Mother in Heaven diminishes the monotheistic view of God, potentially complicating the relationship between God and humanity. This can be seen as problematic from a Christian theological standpoint, where God is typically understood as a single, indivisible entity.Given the lack of clear, authoritative teachings about the Mother in Heaven, some argue that it can lead to speculative ideas and even heretical notions. For example, there have been occasional theological and social debates about the role of heavenly mother, which could distract from core doctrines of salvation, Jesus Christ’s role, and the focus on God the Father in worship.ConclusionWhile the doctrine of a Mother in Heaven is acknowledged in some Mormon circles, critics highlight issues related to its lack of scriptural foundation, doctrinal ambiguity, historical inconsistency, gender implications, and theological coherence. Many believe that it is more of a speculative or peripheral teaching rather than a central tenet of the LDS faith.
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Jan 20, 2025 • 57min

Jordan and Becca's Story: Escaping a High Control Religion

In this episode, Jordan and Becca share their story of leaving the Church of Christ -- a high control religion similar to Mormonism. Wherever you're at in your faith, this is a powerful and encouraging episode you won't want to miss!--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --
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Jan 17, 2025 • 39min

What Does the Bible Say about Abortion? - The PursueGOD Truth Podcast

Every human life, from conception to natural death, is inherently valuable and deserving of protection. Life begins at conception, as this marks the start of a unique human organism with its own DNA, potential, and future.--The PursueGOD Truth podcast is the “easy button” for making disciples – whether you’re looking for resources to lead a family devotional, a small group at church, or a one-on-one mentoring relationship. Join us for new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --We’re in part 3 of our Kingdom Politics series. Today we’ll answer the question: Q. What Does the Bible Say about Abortion?This is an emotionally charged topicMaybe some of you want to swipe up, put up walls, run awayBecause you have personal hurts around this topicOr because you just want to stick your head in the sandI encourage you to resist that temptationThere’s something here for everyoneI’ll try to speak the truth in love…Such an important topic that I’ve written this episode twiceI want to make sure I get it right, which means I need to make sure I understand the opposing viewWhy are so many people in favor of this? Even some Christians? Let’s start with…The Pro-Choice ArgumentSee the argument for and against pro-life | Lex Fridman PodcastPro-Choice Argument #1: Bodily Autonomy - A fundamental principle of human rights is that individuals have the right to control their own bodies. Pregnancy profoundly affects a person's body, health, and life, and no one should be compelled to undergo it against their will.Pro-Choice Argument #2: Gender Equality - Denying access to abortion disproportionately affects women and those who can become pregnant, limiting their ability to participate equally in society by controlling their reproductive choices and futures.Pregnancy changes women in a way that it cannot change men, so it’s a form of sex discrimination to make women go through with an unwanted pregnancy. From an article by a Christian Latina Mom: “Yes, the anti abortion movement has its lens focused solely on birth, but I think they've lost Jesus in the process. How are we protecting all God's creatures beyond gestation? What is being done to help people out of poverty? When will we get mandated paid parental leave? When will we stop aiding wars that lead to the death of many innocent people? When will our maternal health system be fixed so women, especially Black women, don't have to worry about whether or not they are going to survive childbirth in this country? This fight is not about "protecting life" it is about control — controlling women, to be exact. And that's a fight I cannot get behind. I think God understands that and loves me just the same.”History lesson: In the United States, eugenic sterilization laws were passed in many states (popularized in 1920’s), disproportionately targeting Black women, Indigenous women, and immigrants. These sterilizations were often carried out without informed consent.1907: Indiana passes the first eugenic sterilization law in the United States, targeting those deemed "unfit" to reproduce (e.g., individuals with disabilities or mental illness).1919: Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, writes about controlling the reproduction of people she considered "unfit," which included those with mental or physical disabilities, as well as impoverished groups, immigrants, and minorities. Here’s the title of the article: "Birth Control and Racial Betterment" 1925: Hitler’s ideas about racial purity, Aryan superiority, and the need to eliminate "undesirable" traits outlined in his book Mein Kampf.1927: The Supreme Court upholds forced sterilization laws in Buck v. Bell. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes famously writes, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."1933: Hitler implements eugenic policies on a national scale, starting with the Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring. This law legalized forced sterilization for individuals with conditions such as mental illness, epilepsy, and physical disabilities.1973: Roe v. Wade legalizes abortion in the U.S., with abortion services often concentrated in low-income and minority communities, raising concerns about systemic targeting.Pro-Choice Argument #3: Personhood - Many argue that personhood and the associated rights develop gradually and that early-stage embryos do not yet possess the qualities (e.g., consciousness or viability) that confer full moral status.SLED acronym: Pro-choice advocates often argue that personhood is not established until certain criteria are met:Size: Some argue that the unborn’s small size makes them less of a person. The idea is that a tiny embryo cannot hold the same moral status as a fully grown human.Level of Development: Pro-choice proponents frequently claim that personhood is tied to cognitive development. Since the unborn cannot think, feel pain, or exhibit consciousness in the early stages of pregnancy, they argue that the fetus is not yet a person.Environment: It is often asserted that life inside the womb is fundamentally different from life outside it. Until a baby is born and separates from the mother, some argue, it cannot be considered fully human.Degree of Dependency: Pro-choice advocates may contend that the unborn’s complete reliance on the mother for survival makes them less than a person. They might equate this dependency with a lack of individual autonomy, which they see as essential for personhood.The Pro-Life ArgumentPro-Life Argument #1: Intrinsic Value of Human Life - This is the crux of the pro-life argument. Every human life, from conception to natural death, is inherently valuable and deserving of protection. Life begins at conception, as this marks the start of a unique human organism with its own DNA, potential, and future. (Winger - It’s a living, whole human)Genesis 1:27 Genesis 1:27 (NLT) 27 So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.Pillar 2 of God and Govt from week 1 of this series: God, Not the Government, Gives Rights to Every Human Being.That’s why this whole argument hinges on whether babies in the womb are human! They’re not “potential human beings”, but “human beings with potential” Not once in the history of humanity, did a pregnant mother give birth to a monkey or a fish or a tree. Every single time a human being came out! Exodus 21:22-25 (NLT) 22 “Now suppose two men are fighting, and in the process they accidentally strike a pregnant woman so she gives birth prematurely. If no further injury results, the man who struck the woman must pay the amount of compensation the woman’s husband demands and the judges approve. 23 But if there is further injury, the punishment must match the injury: a life for a life, 24 an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth….”Exodus 21 (New Bible Commentary) In the case of murder the death penalty was invoked, not out of indifference for human life, but rather because each human life is of tremendous value (Gn. 9:6).Exodus 21 (New Bible Commentary) The distinctiveness of the biblical laws is apparent when one compares them with other Ancient Near Eastern laws. In the earlier Laws of Hammurabi, a murderer was required to make only financial compensation to the victim’s family. This contrasts sharply with the biblical insistence of a life for a life. On the other hand, the non-biblical laws apply the death penalty to breaking and entering, looting at a fire, and theft. These examples reveal that in other cultures financial loss was sometimes treated more seriously than loss of life. The biblical laws consistently emphasize that human life is of greater value than material possessions.Psalms 139:13-16 (NLT) 13 You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex! Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it. 15 You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb. 16 You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed.Friends, if you’ve bought into the pro-choice narrative, you’ve been gaslit“My body, my choice” is a lieThat baby in the womb has its own body with its own DNATo elevate a woman’s right to choose above the level of a baby’s right to live is simply not biblical or logical. This next verse shows us something more…Luke 1:41 (NLT) 41 At the sound of Mary’s greeting, Elizabeth’s child leaped within her, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.Pro-Life Argument #2: Moral Responsibility to the Vulnerable The unborn baby, as the most vulnerable and defenseless member of the human family, deserves special protection. Society has an ethical obligation to advocate for those who cannot speak for themselves.Proverbs 31:8-9 (NLT) 8 Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves; ensure justice for those being crushed. 9 Yes, speak up for the poor and helpless, and see that they get justice.Some of you have stayed silent on this issue because it’s unpopularSome are silenced because of your empathy for womenHear this, please: in the vast majority of cases, women are not the vulnerable ones hereThe unborn are the helpless ones. They are “those being crushed”. The bible commands us to speak up for them. Pro-Life Argument #3: Pro-Life, Not Just Pro-Birth – advocating for comprehensive support for the pregnant mother and the child after it’s born Pro-Moms: advocating for the health and support of moms who bear the burden of pregnancyWomen matter to God just as much as babies in the womb.Pro-Family: advocating for mom and a dad in the homePro-Dads: advocating for a return to biblical masculinityA culture that devalues life often stems from broken views of manhood. Men must reject the cultural narratives of irresponsibility and self-indulgence. One of the greatest tragedies in the abortion debate is the silence of men. While women bear the physical burden of pregnancy, men often bear moral and relational responsibility. Research consistently shows that a significant percentage of women who have abortions feel unsupported or pressured by the men in their lives. When men fail to step up, women are left to make heart-wrenching decisions alone.The abortion issue is not just a women’s issue; it is a human issue and, more importantly, a gospel issue. Men need to take the lead, but every follower of Jesus has a part to play. Moses’ final words to the Israelites on their way in to the Promised Land:Deuteronomy 30:19 (NLT) “Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!”The Takeaway:Last week we learned that we are citizens of heaven first, and that should impact our participation in this great country (where we are foreigners and exiles). We’re not meant to stand back and let America wander away from the biblical principles it was founded on. Here’s the takeaway for this issue, three practical steps that I hope you’ll pray about so you can honor God in this area: Adopt: Some of you will be led to take this life-long leap of faith. This is one of the most practical ways to be a light on this dark issue.Support: Partner with organizations that provide emotional, financial, and practical support to pregnant women.Disciple: Walk with someone who’s struggling to understand a biblical worldview on this. Parents: disciple your kids on this topic, or the world will. Remember the first two types of governance we talked about last week: self-governance and family governance. If we lead in this, policies in civil government will follow.
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Jan 13, 2025 • 60min

Who Are the Seventh Day Adventists?

Some modern day religions claim to be Christians...but are they really? Go through this series with a small group or mentor, and let's take a closer look at some religions that may actually be cultish. This week: Seventh Day Adventists.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --Part I: The HistoryOrigins in the Millerite MovementWilliam Miller (1782–1849): A Baptist preacher who studied Bible prophecy, particularly the books of Daniel and Revelation. Based on his calculations of Daniel 8:14, Miller predicted that Christ would return to earth around 1843–1844.The Great Disappointment (October 22, 1844): When Jesus did not return on the predicted date, many of Miller’s followers abandoned the movement. However, a small group believed the date was correct but misunderstood the nature of the event (we will get into this more when we discuss some of the false doctrines they promote).Formation of the Seventh-day Adventist ChurchThe Sabbath Movement: A group led by Joseph Bates and others began emphasizing the importance of observing Saturday (the biblical Sabbath) as a day of worship, based on the fourth commandment.The Sanctuary Doctrine: After the Great Disappointment, followers like Hiram Edson taught that Jesus did not return to earth but instead entered the heavenly sanctuary to begin a new phase of His ministry (the “investigative judgment”).Ellen G. White (1827–1915): Considered a prophetess by Adventists, she played a central role in shaping SDA beliefs and practices. Her visions and writings helped unify the movement and promote distinctive doctrines.Official Organization1863: The Seventh-day Adventist Church was officially organized in Battle Creek, Michigan, with approximately 3,500 members.Expansion: By the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the SDA Church grew rapidly, emphasizing evangelism, education, and healthcare.Today’s SDA ChurchGlobal Reach: The SDA Church has grown into a worldwide denomination with over 21 million members.Focus Areas: It emphasizes education, healthcare, and missionary work while holding to its unique doctrines.Part II: The Similarities and DifferencesSimilarities:The belief in the TrinityThe humanity and deity of Christ (but there is a little twist here)Salvation by grace through faith (but we will discuss this)Authority of Scripture (but we will discuss this as well)The Second Coming of ChristResurrection of the DeadWhile there are many similarities in the beliefs between SDA and orthodox Christianity, there are some disturbing differences that Christians need to be aware of when considering SDA’s. Observance of the SabbathThis is pretty deep. They firmly believe that the 4th commandment to observe the Sabbath is still enforced today and this part of the law was not “fulfilled” in Christ. SUNDAY LAW: They associate Sunday worship with the Mark of the Beast. They largely derive this from an interpretation of Bible prophecy. They interpret the beast in Revelation 13 as a system of false religion or false worship, mainly the Roman Catholic church. SDAs believe the Roman Catholic Church is the beast in Revelation, Sunday worship is the “mark of the beast,” and a future Sunday law will test whether people are loyal to God (by keeping the Sabbath) or to human authority (by observing Sunday).Since the RCC was instrumental in establishing Sunday as the official day of worship as opposed to Saturday, those who partake of Sunday worship instead of Sabbath worship in the future will be guilty of taking the mark of the beast or pledging their allegiance to this false system of worship. How do they view Sunday worshiping Christians?SDAs believe that the "mark of the beast" will only apply in the future, when Sunday worship is enforced by law as a global religious mandate. Until then, they view Christians who worship on Sunday as sincere but misinformed about God’s Sabbath command.Ignorance of the Truth: They teach that many Christians worship on Sunday out of tradition or lack of knowledge about the Sabbath. In such cases, God does not hold them accountable (Acts 17:30).SDAs feel a duty to inform Sunday-keeping Christians about the biblical Sabbath. They see this as part of their mission to call people out of "Babylon" (Revelation 18:4), which they interpret as false religious systems, including Sunday worship.They often present the Sabbath as a test of loyalty to God and obedience to His commandments.What does Ellen G. White Say?"The Sabbath is the golden clasp that unites God and His people." (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 6, p. 351)“Christ is the sinner’s only hope. By His death, He brought salvation within the reach of all.” (The Desire of Ages, p. 131).SDAs use quotes like this to argue that White did not teach salvation by works or Sabbath-keeping alone.In Testimonies for the Church, she stated:“It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord.”Statements like this can lead to a legalistic mindset where believers feel their salvation depends on rigid obedience to laws, which undermines the gospel of grace.What Does The Bible Say?Scripture References:Not mentioned as a command to observe in the entire new testament. Not only that but the opposite is mentioned. Romans 14:5-6: “One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord.”FOCUS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF RESTColossians 2:16-17: “Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.”Galatians 4:9-10: “But now that you have come to know God... how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world... You observe days and months and seasons and years!”The Investigative JudgmentWhat is it?What Was the Great Disappointment?In 1844, many Christians followed a preacher named William Miller, who said Jesus would return on October 22, 1844.When Jesus didn’t return, it was called the Great Disappointment because people were devastated. Trying to Understand What HappenedSome of Miller’s followers thought the date was right, but they misunderstood what was supposed to happen.A man named Hiram Edson had a new idea. He said that instead of Jesus coming back to earth, He did something important in heaven.A New ExplanationEdson said Jesus entered the Most Holy Place in heaven (based on Daniel 8:14) on October 22, 1844.He based this on the Old Testament idea of the Day of Atonement, when priests would cleanse the temple of sins.Ellen G. White: Her visions affirmed this interpretation, and it became foundational for SDA theology.The Investigative JudgmentThey believed Jesus started a new work in heaven, called the Investigative Judgment:Jesus is now reviewing the lives of all believers to decide who will be saved.This is like a heavenly courtroom where records are checked.Outcome:The faithful who remain obedient are confirmed as saved.Those who turn away from God are judged unworthy and will not be resurrected to eternal life.Criticisms of the Investigative JudgmentLack of Clear Biblical Support:Many argue that Daniel 8:14 refers to the restoration of the Jerusalem temple, not a heavenly judgment.Hebrews 10:12 states that Christ’s sacrifice was "once for all," implying no additional phase of atonement is needed.Salvation by Works?:Critics say the doctrine emphasizes human effort and obedience, potentially undermining salvation by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9).Conflict with Assurance of Salvation:Mainstream Christianity teaches that believers can have full assurance of salvation in Christ (Romans 8:1), while the Investigative Judgment may lead to uncertainty.How This Differs from Mainstream ChristianityCompleted Atonement: Christians believe Christ’s work on the cross was finished and fully sufficient for salvation (John 19:30, Hebrews 10:10-14).Hebrews 10:14: "For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy."Judgment After Second Coming: Mainstream Christians teach that judgment occurs after Christ’s return, not as an ongoing process since 1844.Points for Discussion with SDAsChrist’s Finished Work:Ask: "If Jesus said 'It is finished' (John 19:30), why is another phase of atonement necessary?"Assurance of Salvation:Highlight verses like 1 John 5:13, which assure believers of eternal life.Interpretation of Daniel 8:14:Explore whether the prophecy could refer to the earthly temple and historical events, not a heavenly sanctuary.The Role of Prophecy (Ellen G. White)Who Was She?Ellen G. White (1827–1915) was one of the founders of the SDA Church. She claimed to have received over 2,000 visions and dreams, which she shared through books, articles, and sermons.Her writings, such as The Great Controversy and Steps to Christ, are considered inspired by God.Her Role in SDA Theology:While not officially considered equal to Scripture, her writings are referred to as the "lesser light" that leads to the "greater light" of the Bible.She is seen as a fulfillment of Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 19:10, which SDAs interpret as God raising up a prophet for the end times.Scope of Influence:White’s writings address doctrinal issues (e.g., Sabbath-keeping, the investigative judgment) and practical matters (e.g., diet, education, health).Many SDA doctrines are rooted in or affirmed by her writings.The SDA Position on ProphecySeventh-day Adventists (SDA) view prophecy as an ongoing tool for divine guidance, with Ellen G. White regarded as a modern-day prophetess. While her writings are considered a "lesser light" pointing to the Bible, they are heavily relied upon to shape doctrine and practice. SDAs believe her visions and teachings fulfill biblical prophecies, such as those in Revelation 12:17 and 19:10, and serve as authoritative guidance for the end times. This elevated role often leads to her writings being treated as a lens through which Scripture is interpreted, raising concerns about undermining the sufficiency of the Bible.The Orthodox Christian Position on ProphecyCompleted Revelation:Christianity teaches that God’s revelation is complete through Jesus Christ and the Scriptures (Hebrews 1:1-2, 2 Timothy 3:16-17).Scripture References:Hebrews 1:1-2: “Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son.”2 Timothy 3:16-17: “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”Revelation 22:18: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.”Prophecy in the New Testament primarily functioned to authenticate the early church and ceased with the apostolic era.The Bible as the Final Authority:Mainstream Christians affirm sola scriptura (Scripture alone) as the ultimate authority for faith and practice.Additional revelations or prophecies are not required for guidance or doctrine.How to Lovingly Engage SDAs on This IssueAffirm Common Ground:Acknowledge their desire to follow God and their respect for Scripture.Example: “It’s clear you care deeply about knowing God’s will. Let’s explore what the Bible says about prophecy.”Point to the Sufficiency of Scripture:Use verses like 2 Timothy 3:16-17 to show that Scripture is sufficient for all aspects of faith and practice.Ask: “If the Bible is complete and sufficient, why would we need additional revelations?”Test Prophecies Biblically:Highlight Deuteronomy 18:22 and 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22, which teach that prophecies must be tested and verified.Ask: “If even one prophecy is inaccurate, should we consider the person a true prophet?”ConclusionEmphasize the Common GroundHighlight shared beliefs with SDAs, such as:Belief in Jesus as fully divine and the Savior.The authority of Scripture.The hope of Jesus’ Second Coming.This helps foster understanding and a respectful tone while distinguishing key doctrinal differences.Address the Key DifferencesRecap major theological concerns, such as:Sabbath and Salvation: Stress that salvation is by grace through faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), not tied to keeping the Sabbath or other works.Investigative Judgment: Affirm that Jesus’ work on the cross was complete, and there’s no need for a separate judgment to determine salvation (Hebrews 10:14, John 19:30).Prophecy and Ellen G. White: Remind viewers that Scripture is the final authority (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and any extra-biblical claims must be tested carefully.Encourage a Biblical ResponseUrge Christians to respond with truth and grace when engaging SDA members:Speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15).Ask thoughtful questions to challenge their assumptions without attacking their beliefs.Focus on the gospel and the assurance of salvation in Christ.Offer Hope and AssuranceReinforce the sufficiency of Jesus’ sacrifice:“For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy” (Hebrews 10:14).Remind viewers of the joy and freedom found in Christ:“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest” (Matthew 11:28).End with a Call to Study the BibleEncourage the audience to study Scripture deeply for themselves and to know God’s Word:“Let’s commit to growing in our understanding of the Bible so we can stand firm in truth and share the gospel with those who are seeking.”Soul Sleep and AnnihilationismSoul Sleep:SDAs teach that when people die, their souls do not go to heaven or hell immediately. Instead, they enter an unconscious state referred to as "soul sleep," awaiting the resurrection at Christ’s return.Death is likened to a deep, dreamless sleep where the person has no awareness of the passage of time (Ecclesiastes 9:5, John 11:11-14).Refuting Soul SleepThese verses suggest that the soul remains conscious after death:Luke 16:19-31 (The Rich Man and Lazarus):Jesus describes the rich man and Lazarus experiencing conscious realities immediately after death—one in torment and the other in comfort.This story undermines the idea of unconsciousness after death.Philippians 1:23-24:Paul writes, "I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far."This indicates that being "with Christ" happens immediately after death, not after an unconscious waiting period.2 Corinthians 5:8:"We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."Suggests a direct transition from physical death to being in the presence of the Lord.Revelation 6:9-10:Souls of martyrs under the altar cry out to God, asking how long until judgment.Demonstrates that souls are conscious and aware before the resurrection.Annihilationism:SDAs reject the idea of eternal torment in hell. They believe that the wicked will be resurrected for judgment but will ultimately be destroyed (annihilated) rather than suffer eternal punishment.This destruction is seen as the "second death" (Revelation 20:14-15), where the wicked cease to exist entirely.Refuting AnnihilationismMatthew 25:46:"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."The same word "eternal" is used for both punishment and life, showing parallel everlasting duration.Revelation 14:10-11:"They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever."Indicates eternal, ongoing torment for those who worship the beast.Daniel 12:2:"Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."Describes eternal consequences for both the righteous and the wicked.Mark 9:47-48:Jesus speaks of hell as a place "where the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched."Indicates unending suffering rather than annihilation.Dietary Restrictions and Health PracticesSDA Belief:SDAs promote a vegetarian or plant-based diet and discourage the consumption of "unclean" meats listed in Leviticus 11 (e.g., pork, shellfish).They advocate for abstaining from alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine as part of living a holy and healthy life.Health is viewed as a spiritual obligation, tying physical well-being to faithfulness to God.Ellen G. White’s Influence:White wrote extensively on health, calling the body the "temple of the Holy Spirit" and teaching that a vegetarian diet was God's ideal for humanity.In The Ministry of Healing, she stated, "Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator."White also claimed that avoiding "unclean" meats and harmful substances is essential for moral and spiritual clarity.Holistic Living:The SDA Church operates many hospitals, clinics, and wellness centers worldwide, emphasizing the connection between health and spirituality.Their Health Message is central to their outreach, and they see it as...

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