Edge of Reason

Frances Morris and Jamieson Webster reflect on Louise Bourgeois’s explorations of memory and the body, considering how her art renders private experience into collective meaning and deep emotional presence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Firelei Báez and novelist Danticat discuss resistance as care and creativity, reflecting on how art reshapes struggle into resilience, reframes scarcity as abundance, and reclaims erased histories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

María Berrío and journalist Siddhartha Mitter reflect on Soliloquy of the Wounded Earth, tracing how myth, memory, and resilience converge in Berrío's first New York exhibition in nearly a decade. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anj Smith and curator Zoé Whitley frame the world within as a space of ambiguity and imagination, where art resists certainty, asks for patience, and nurtures deeper forms of reflection and connection. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uman and novelist Nicole Dennis-Benn explore metamorphosis as a journey of becoming—confronting fear, loss, and resilience while revealing how painting and writing open space for reinvention and self-discovery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for a live talk with the iconic Annie Leibovitz and Amy Sherald. In this special episode, they discuss the power of process in bringing vulnerability and intuition together, revealing the humanity behind their art. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, artist Camille Henrot and author Melissa Febos explore how relationships reveal the dynamics of control and connection.Henrot discusses how caregiving, education, and societal structures inform her creative process, while Febos reflects on her experiences as a dominatrix and the liberating process of writing about attachment. Together they consider how art can untangle the contradictions of intimacy and control. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, artist Glenn Ligon and multi-hyphenate Solange Knowles discuss what it means to create—and live—with multiplicity. Ligon reflects on his career-long evolution into an artist who challenges perceptions of race, language, and history, while Knowles traces her path as a musician, performer, and curator. Together they explore the power of collective experience, artistic risk, and embracing all parts of oneself to expand creative thinking. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, artist Mika Rottenberg and theoretical physicist Dr. Felix Flicker search for the intersection between art and science, inviting us to rediscover the beauty of the world around us. Rottenberg shares how her work transforms familiar materials to highlight the connection between humans and their environment, while Dr. Flicker discusses the properties of common objects and the ways we can find magic in the mundane through scientific curiosity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, artist Charles Gaines and fashion designer Grace Wales Bonner explore how art can bridge the gap between what we perceive and what is real, prompting us to question our relationship with truth.Gaines’s conceptual systems challenge the notion of a singular truth, while Bonner’s fashion designs reveal the layers of identity and history embedded in her work. How do subjective interpretation and objective reality intersect, and where is the line between what we see and what is real?Music in this episode:Charles GainesManifestos 6: Ben Patterson. 2023Performance presented as part of the exhibition Artist’s Choice: Grace WalesBonner—Spirit Movers, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, November 16, 2023–April 7, 2024Performed and filmed on March 21, 2024Composer: Charles GainesConductor and music director: John EagleProducer: Mads FalconeViolin: Yaz LancasterViolin: Connie LiViola: Jay JulioCello: Wayne SmithBass: Marguerite CoxPercussion and xylophone: Pauline RobertsTrumpet: Wayne du MaineTrombone: Sterling DavisTuba: Jono HillVideo documentation and editing: Oresti Tsonopoulos, Alex MunroAudio mix: Shane O’ConnellArtist’s Choice: Grace Wales Bonner—Spirit Movers is organized by Grace Wales Bonner with Michelle Kuo, The Marlene Hess Curator, Dana Liljegren, Curatorial Assistant, and Elizabeth Wickham, Curatorial Assistant, Department of Painting and Sculpture, MoMA, with the collaboration of Nick Murphy, Curatorial Partner, Pantograph, Paris. Produced by Lizzie Gorfaine, Associate Director and Producer, Performance and Live Programs, with Aminah Ibrahim, Assistant Performance Coordinator, Performance and Live Programs, MoMA.Thanks to Liam Sangmuah and Jessica Hamenyimana, Research Associates, Wales Bonner.© 2024 The Museum of Modern Art, New York Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices