The Podcast by KevinMD

Kevin Pho, MD
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Jul 14, 2025 • 19min

How Project ECHO is fighting physician isolation and transforming medical education

Pediatrician Daniel Johnson discusses his article, "From isolation to innovation: the power of learning communities in health care." He reflects on the collaborative, case-based learning that makes medical training exciting and contrasts it with the professional isolation many physicians experience after graduation. To combat this, Daniel champions Project ECHO, a global telementoring model that creates virtual learning communities. He describes ECHO as "hospital rounds on Zoom," where an "all teach, all learn, all support" environment connects community practitioners with specialists to solve real-world patient cases, from the early days of AIDS to modern challenges like pediatric obesity. The conversation serves as a powerful call to action to formally integrate this model into the entire medical education system, ensuring clinicians remain part of a supportive, collaborative community throughout their careers. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 10, 2025 • 25min

Beyond burnout: Understanding the triangle of exhaustion

Physician coach Nicole Perrotte and physician advocate and physical therapist Kim Downey discuss their article, "Love, empathy, and the triangle of exhaustion: Why humanity must come first." Nicole introduces her powerful framework, the Triangle of Exhaustion, which describes the profound fatigue experienced by caregivers, physicians, and parents of atypical children. This exhaustion is composed of three parts: the emotional fatigue from constant advocacy, the social isolation from feeling alone, and the relentless responsibility of care with no off switch. Nicole and Kim argue that our society often makes empathy conditional, reserving it for those with a specific label or diagnosis. They propose a fundamental shift toward unconditional kindness. The conversation offers three actionable solutions to break the cycle: normalize differences, create judgment-free zones, and lead with love, providing listeners with a new lens for fostering genuine human connection. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 10, 2025 • 16min

Why ADHD in women requires a new approach

Pediatrician Arti Lal discusses her article, "Why ADHD in women is finally getting the attention it deserves." She explores why new ADHD diagnoses nearly doubled for adult women from 2020 to 2022 and the unique barriers they face in getting proper care. Arti explains how historical gender biases have led to misdiagnosis, as female hyperactivity often presents as internal racing thoughts or chattiness rather than the classic external restlessness seen in boys. The conversation delves into the significant, under-studied impact of hormonal cycles on symptom severity, from the menstrual cycle to menopause. To overcome diagnostic challenges and provide personalized care, Arti advocates for integrating objective, data-driven testing alongside subjective assessments. This approach not only provides a clearer clinical picture but also validates the lived experiences of women who may have internalized their symptoms as character flaws for years. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 9, 2025 • 21min

Why point-of-care ultrasound belongs in every emergency department triage

Emergency physicians Resa E. Lewiss and Courtney M. Smalley discuss their article, "Why point-of-care ultrasound belongs in emergency department triage." Amid the crisis of overcrowded waiting rooms and long wait times, they argue for the immediate integration of a powerful, underutilized tool: point-of-care ultrasound (POCUS). Resa and Courtney use compelling clinical examples, like identifying a collapsed lung or a ruptured ectopic pregnancy in under two minutes, to show how POCUS can dramatically improve risk stratification and save lives before a patient even leaves the triage area. They counter potential objections by explaining that emergency physicians are already highly trained in POCUS, the technology fits existing workflows, and it is a billable procedure that can generate revenue. The conversation serves as a direct call to action for hospital leaders to redesign triage spaces and protocols, making POCUS a standard of care to ensure the sickest patients are identified and treated without delay. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 8, 2025 • 21min

Why financial planning is a critical tool for physician well-being

Certified financial planner Brian Case discusses the article, "Personal financial planning shouldn't be a taboo subject." They explore the often-overlooked link between financial stress and the crisis of physician burnout, turnover, and the alarming rate of physician suicide. Brian, Jerry, Jonathan, and Anders explain that despite high earning potential, many physicians struggle with poor financial literacy and significant student debt, which negatively impacts their professional satisfaction and mental health. The conversation also addresses the high level of mistrust physicians have for traditional financial services due to conflicts of interest. The authors argue that breaking the stigma around personal finance and providing access to transparent, unbiased resources is a vital, preventative component of physician well-being. Listeners will learn why integrating financial education throughout a medical career can empower physicians, giving them greater autonomy and enhancing the quality of patient care. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 7, 2025 • 22min

Why the U.S. mental health care system is failing and how to fix it

Internal medicine physician and author Robert C. Smith discusses his article, "Medicine's mental health crisis: why the system is failing us." He reveals the shocking disparity in care, where only 25 percent of patients with mental illness receive any treatment compared to 70 percent for physical conditions. This crisis, Robert explains, stems from a fundamental failure in medical training: primary care clinicians handle over 75 percent of mental health cases but receive only 2 percent of their training in this area. The conversation delves into the historical roots of this neglect, citing the centuries-old "mind-body split," and argues that medicine continues to ignore the scientifically superior and integrative biopsychosocial model. Ultimately, Robert issues a powerful call to action for the public to become informed and demand political change, drawing parallels to successful citizen-led movements that mandated seat belts and banned harmful chemicals, offering listeners a clear path to help reform our nation's approach to mental health care. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 3, 2025 • 18min

From Founding Fathers to modern battles: physician activism in a politicized era

Psychiatrist, internist, and addiction medicine specialist Muhamad Aly Rifai discusses his article, "Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty." Muhamad calls for a remembrance of the five physician-patriots—Dr. Benjamin Rush, Dr. Josiah Bartlett, Dr. Lyman Hall, Dr. Matthew Thornton, and Dr. Oliver Wolcott—who signed the Declaration of Independence, risking everything for the principles of equality and unalienable rights. He contrasts their revered role with the current plight of physicians who face persecution, silencing, and legal battles within a politicized health care system, citing violations of First, Fourth, and Sixth Amendment rights. Muhamad emphasizes Dr. Benjamin Rush's profound influence beyond medicine, in shaping the nation's moral and educational fabric. The conversation serves as a rallying cry for contemporary physicians to reclaim their heritage as defenders of liberty, to organize, speak out against injustice, and fight for the ability to practice medicine ethically and without political interference, much like their predecessors did. Muhamad asserts that this new revolution is just beginning, with doctors ready to defend life, liberty, and patient dignity on new battlefields like clinics, courtrooms, and the internet. Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot. Microsoft Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click. Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust. It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow. VISIT SPONSOR → https://aka.ms/kevinmd SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 2, 2025 • 19min

Who will train the next generation of primary care clinicians without physician mentorship?

Founding director of the Doctor of Medical Science program at The College of St. Scholastica, Kenneth Botelho, discusses his article, "In the absence of physician mentorship, who will train the next generation of primary care clinicians?" Kenneth highlights the accelerating crisis caused by the erosion of physician mentorship, particularly impacting physician associates (PAs) in primary care who historically relied on close, hands-on guidance. He explains that with an aging physician workforce and doctors leaving primary care, this traditional apprenticeship model is breaking down, leaving many new PAs with minimal supervision and high-pressure roles, increasing risks of burnout and clinical error. Kenneth argues that while the old system cannot be revived, innovative solutions like postgraduate PA fellowships and residencies, supported by Doctor of Medical Science (DMSc) programs, offer a path forward. He details how these programs can create a new pipeline of PA leaders equipped with advanced clinical competence, leadership skills, and an understanding of value-based care and health care economics, enabling them to fill mentorship gaps and improve a strained health care system. Kenneth stresses that this is a system issue requiring bold, collaborative action to support learners and ensure patient safety. Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot. Microsoft Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click. Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust. It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow. VISIT SPONSOR → https://aka.ms/kevinmd SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jul 1, 2025 • 24min

A physician's reflection on love, loss, and finding meaning in grief

Hospitalist Jasminka Vukanovic-Criley discusses her article, "When grief hits all at once: a morning of heartbreak and love." Jasminka shares a deeply personal account of a Saturday morning where unexpected news of the passing of two friends, Natasa's mother Mirjana and her friend Thomas, both from cancer, suddenly immersed her in profound grief. She reflects on the fragility of life and the ripple effect of these losses, which led to a cascade of memories: her grandfather who would have turned 116, his mother who passed away on his birthday 49 years prior, and her own mother, whose 486th day of absence she was marking. Jasminka explores the experience of noticing signs and seeking meaning in numbers like 486, pondering the universe's mysterious ways of connecting events and emotions. The conversation delves into the nature of grief as an overwhelming yet navigable ocean, emphasizing the importance of cherishing loved ones, expressing love openly, and allowing oneself to feel sorrow, ultimately finding strength in remembrance and the enduring power of love. Jasminka's narrative is a poignant reminder to live fully and love fiercely, even amidst the inevitability of loss. Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot. Microsoft Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click. Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust. It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow. VISIT SPONSOR → https://aka.ms/kevinmd SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended
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Jun 30, 2025 • 19min

Addressing U.S. vaccine inequities in vulnerable communities

Medical students Kaitlynn Esemaya, Anamaria Ancheta, and Annique McLune discuss their article, "Why vaccine access still fails America's most vulnerable groups." They highlight how social determinants of health drive pervasive inequities in vaccination rates among marginalized U.S. communities, exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic. Kaitlynn, Alexis, and Annique cite CDC data showing updated COVID-19 vaccine uptake for Non-Hispanic Black and Hispanic adults at 8 percent, nearly half that of white adults (15 percent) for 2023–2024. This disparity extends to other vaccines like HPV and influenza, with poverty being a key factor. The discussion covers the post-pandemic drop in childhood vaccinations due to access barriers like lack of insurance and provider shortages, particularly in rural areas. They also touch on HPV vaccine disparities, where only 76 percent of U.S. children received one dose by 2022, and varying awareness levels, such as only 40 percent of adults with less than a high school education being aware of HPV compared to 78 percent of college graduates. Kaitlynn, Alexis, and Annique point to the resurgence of measles, with 301 U.S. cases by March 2025, and address the critical issues of vaccine hesitancy, medical mistrust, and misinformation, noting that these challenges even affect health care workers. The conversation emphasizes the need for increased education, public promotion of vaccinations, and improved access to address these persistent failures. Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot. Microsoft Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click. Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust. It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow. VISIT SPONSOR → https://aka.ms/kevinmd SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended

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