
A Sustainable Future
What can we do to build a more sustainable world? Each episode features a thought leader discussing an aspect of sustainability - its origin, evolution and relevance today - with Jason Mitchell, Co-Head of Responsible Investment at Man Group.
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Mar 27, 2025 • 53min
Professor Benjamin Horton, Director of the Earth Observatory of Singapore, on the Criticality of US Climate Data
What happens if access to US climate data becomes more limited? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with Professor Benjamin Horton, Director of the Earth Observatory of Singapore, about what the political changes in the US could mean for the international scientific community; how that impact translates into access and availability of critical climate datasets; and why some climate scientists are already thinking about substitutes plans and worst case scenarios.

Mar 13, 2025 • 56min
Dan Mikulskis, People’s Partnership CIO, on Reallocating Towards Sustainability
How are asset owners reallocating towards sustainability? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with Dan Mikulskis, People’s Partnership CIO, about how the People’s Partnership is doing to evolve its investment strategy; what that means functionally for in a responsible investment context; and why asset owners like People’s Partnership are taking on a bigger leadership role in sustainable finance.

Feb 20, 2025 • 47min
Hortense Bioy, Morningstar Head of Research, on Sustainable Investing Under Trump 2.0
Whatdoes 2025 hold for sustainable investing? Jason Mitchell talks to Hortense Bioy,Morningstar Head of Research, about how sustainable investing has reshapedasset flows over the last several years; what the suspension of the net zeroinitiatives could mean for investors; and why sustainable investing can surviveTrump 2.0.

Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 2min
Prof. Tom Gosling, London School of Economics, on Whether Investors Reset, Recalibrate, or Retreat from Net Zero
Will investors reset, recalibrate, or retreat from net zero in 2025? Listen to JasonMitchell discuss with Professor Tom Gosling, London School of Economics, about howto think about the exits among climate initiatives; what the future of net zerocommitments could look like; and why, investors—despite their limitations indriving climate outcomes—are still able to have a material effect on climatepolicy development.

Jan 14, 2025 • 47min
Prof. Andrew King, Boston University, on the Replication Crisis in Sustainable Investing
Is sustainable investing facing its own replication crisis? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with Professor Andrew King, Boston University, about what the replication crisis represents for sustainable finance; how to think about the incentive problems impacting academic research; and why academic journals and the academic-practitioner community need to be more open to the replication and challenge of existing studies.

Dec 5, 2024 • 46min
Prof. Stefanie Deluca, Johns Hopkins University, on Neighbourhoods and Child Social Mobility
How do neighbourhoods shape economic opportunities for children? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with Professor Stefanie Deluca, Johns Hopkins University, about why neighbourhoods matter for creating social mobility; some of the outcomes and challenges in her recent paper, “Creating Moves to Opportunity”; and what it takes to create more high-opportunity zones, so families don’t have to continually uproot and move.Professor Stefanie DeLuca is the James Coleman Professor of Sociology and Social Policy at the Johns Hopkins University, director of the Poverty and Inequality Research Lab, and Research Principal at Opportunity Insights at Harvard University. She is one of the foremost qualitative mixed methods researchers on housing and higher education policy. Professor DeLuca co-authored Coming of Age in the Other America, which was named an Outstanding Academic Title from the American Library Association, and won the William F. Goode Award from the American Sociological Association. Stefanie has also been awarded a National Academy of Education/Spencer Foundation Fellowship and a William T. Grant Foundation Scholars Award. She serves on a Federal Research Advisory Commission at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and was named Scholar of the Year by the National Alliance of Resident Services in Assisted and Affordable Housing.

Nov 14, 2024 • 1h 4min
Paul Bodnar, Bezos Earth Fund, on Climate, Nature, and Catalytic Capital
What’s at stake for climate and nature in the current politicalenvironment? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with Paul Bodnar, Bezos EarthFund, about the vital role of philanthropic capital; the mission of the BezosEarth Fund; and how its thinks about funding efforts across mitigation andadaptation as well as the Global North and Global South. Note: This episode was recorded prior to the recent US election.Paul Bodnar is the Director of Sustainable Finance, Industry, and Diplomacy at the Bezos Earth Fund. He most recently served as Global Head of Sustainable Investing at BlackRock, where he helped build the firm's $500 billion sustainable funds business. Prior to Blackrock, Paul was Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Council member at RMI (formerly Rocky Mountain Institute), where he founded the Center for Climate-Aligned Finance. Paul served in the Obama White House as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Energy and Climate Change at the National Security Council. Prior to that, Paul served at the State Department as US lead negotiator for climate finance.

Oct 16, 2024 • 1h
NOAA Chief Scientist Dr. Sarah Kapnick on Pricing Climate Disaster Risk
What grade does the finance industry deserve in terms of pricing climate risk? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Chief Scientist Dr. Sarah Kapnick, about the scope of NOAA’s mission; NOAA’s billion-dollar Weather and Climate Disasters dataset and what it means for weather attribution; and why NOAA itself represents a remarkable value to the US people as an argument against dismantling or privatising it.Dr. Sarah Kapnick is Chief Scientist at NOAA, which plays a critical role in understanding and predicting changes in climate, weather, oceans, and coasts. Bringing a unique mix of science and finance to NOAA, Dr. Kapnick's background includes serving as a senior climate scientist at JP Morgan Chase, a leadership role at NOAA's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, and an early career in investment banking.Note: This episode was recorded prior to Dr. Kapnick’s departure from NOAA.

Sep 25, 2024 • 43min
SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce on Green Regs and Spam
Is ESG a “hopeless muddle”? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce, about free markets and free minds; climate and ESG disclosures; the implications of Loper Bright on the Chevron Doctrine and agency authority; and the merits of financial innovation in crypto versus ESG.Commissioner Hester Peirce was appointed by President Donald Trump to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2018. Before joining the SEC, Commissioner Peirce conducted research on the regulation of financial markets at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. She was a Senior Counsel on the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, where she advised Ranking Member Richard Shelby and other members of the Committee on securities issues. Commissioner Peirce served as counsel to SEC Commissioner Paul S. Atkins. She also worked as a Staff Attorney in the SEC’s Division of Investment Management.

Sep 11, 2024 • 54min
Prof. Dan Ariely, Duke University, on Investing in Human Capital
Can human capital drive portfolio returns? Listen to Jason Mitchell discuss with Professor Dan Ariely, Duke University, about what a human capital factor looks like; how incentives and the basic idea of “feeling valued “are fundamental drivers behind employee motivation; and why human capital can represent an overlooked source of alpha.Dan Ariely is the James B. Duke Professor of psychology and behavioural economics at Duke University. He is a serial entrepreneur, co-founding several companies implementing insights from behavioural science including BEwork, Genie, Irrational Labs, Timeful, and Irrational Capital. Dan has written many books, including three New York Times best-selling books: Predictably Irrational, The Upside of Irrationality, and The Honest Truth about Dishonesty. His most recent book is Misbelief: What Makes Rational People Believe Irrational Things. Irrational Capital applies workplace behavioural science, financial acumen, and deep data science to capture the powerful connection between human capital and stock performance. It is the first firm to quantitatively capture the lift that strong corporate culture has on a company’s stock price in an investable way.
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