Sons of Patriarchy

Are you in the PCA, and need help navigating your situation? Contact: Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew. Free live workshops of the PCA Book of Church Order (BCO): https://presbyterianpew.org/live-workshops/ Read and discuss the PCA report on Domestic Abuse and Sexual Assault. Donate to Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew here. Follow Donna Westcott on X (@psychotheologin) and her website (donnawestcott.com). Here's Joyce's interview on Bare Marriage:  Why Did a Church Put a Marital Rape Victim under Church Discipline? Need help? Contact ⁠⁠⁠Outreach Incorporated⁠⁠⁠. Meet Joyce Rohe, former member of Rio Vista Community Church (PCA) in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Lynna Sutherland, the founder of Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew (and a PCA member herself), and Donna Westcott, a licensed professional counselor (and critic of "Biblical" counseling). What happens when you go against your church elders' wishes by divorcing your abusive and absent husband? They skirt the "process" and discipline you without trial. What happens when you try to navigate that very system? They use it against you. What happens when you try to seek "biblical" counseling for all the pain this causes you? They convince you it's your fault, that there's sin residing in you. In short, you're excommunicated. Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. The counterpart to Episode 13, It's Only a Matter of Rank. This time we have Beth Allison Barr (James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University, and author of numerous books), Sheila Wray Gregoire (founder of Bare Marriage, and author of numerous books), Cait West (yes, again!), and Hannah Oliver. The men are trained as leaders, and the women, as followers. The virtuous woman *only* stays at home, homeschools her children, satisfies her husband, and makes sure there's no ugliness in her. They are to stay silent, unless, of course, they've been approved to teacher other women to... stay silent. You can speak, as long as you tell other women not to. At the same time women are more liable to deceit than their male counterparts they also hold the power to cause their brothers to stumble. It's a whiplash, a system wherein you're told to be feminine, but not too feminine, smart, but not too smart, put together, but not independent. In summary, it's impossible. A standard you can never live up to. But there's another way, the way of Jesus. He who gladly took a rank below his, to give you a rank above yours. Buy Beth Barr's books here:  Becoming the Pastor's Wife, The Making of Biblical Womanhood Buy Sheila Gregoire's Books here: The Marriage You Want, She Deserves Better, The Great Sex Rescue Buy Cait West's book here: Rift Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Theresa Garcia Robertson, a former Covenant OPC member, shares her chilling story of grooming and abuse by Pastor Boyd Miller. Zach LeReaux discusses Doug Wilson's teachings, emphasizing the crucial role men play in addressing abuse. Caroline McKuen, founder of the Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition, highlights the systemic failures within church leadership when responding to allegations. Together, they tackle the longstanding cover-ups and call for accountability and reform, igniting a conversation on how faith communities can better support survivors.

Read about the woman's story at FBC Beggs here: https://tinyurl.com/5x7w6ddj Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. In this episode I spoke with repeat guest Cait West, a woman whose marriage and church (FBC Beggs in Beggs, Oklahoma, led by pastor Chris Gore) was taken over by the patriarchy, and Zach Wagner (author of "Non-Toxic Masculinity") about the Patriarchy. Patriarchy is not only toxic for the women subjugated under it, it's an impossible system for the men to exercise. It's a reaction to the perceived feminization of the church, of culture, and of society. It's an ideology wherein it's not enough to *be* a man, you must *do* manly things to prove it. And therein lies the problem, an identity wrapped up in performance rather than the gospel. Buy Cait's book here: https://tinyurl.com/27nvt34h Buy Zach's book here: https://tinyurl.com/6pt73vsb Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Are you in the OPC, and need help? Contact: Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition. Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. Meet Rachel Curtiss, former member of Cities Church in St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cait West, former member of the PCA, RPCNA, and OPC in Pennsylvania and Colorado. Rachel was publicly excommunicated by Joe Rigney (now at Christ Church Moscow) because she left an abusive marriage and church. Cait West, author of the book Rift, was entrenched in the "stay-at-home-daughter" movement, and managed to escape. They have both found their voice. Resource mentioned in this episode:  Rift by Cait West Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. Join us as we talk with repeat guest Jeff Moss, a former CREC Minister, who has over a decade of experience "in the system." The Trinity is the bedrock of the Christian faith: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But what happens when you've entered into a culture war? The perceived "feminization" of the Evangelical church presents to you a problem: how do we fight this? Enter the old heresy of the Father as "authority" and the Son as "submission." The man in the marriage mirrors God the Father's role, while the wife is subjugated to that of the Son. What better to keep women under control than to tell them to "suffer like Jesus." The Trinity then becomes the foundation for gender roles. Let's fix this. Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Are you in the OPC, and need help? Contact: Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition. Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. Both stories are coming on anonymously. The first is a couple who attended a CREC in the Southeast, and the second is a woman who grew up at Harvest OPC, near Grand Rapids, Michigan. The first story is about spiritual abuse and gaslighting, the second story is the outworking of Nancy Wilson's disgusting quip, "of course a husband is never trespassing his own garden" in this woman's life. Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. Join Dr. R. Scott Clark and I as we discuss Federal Vision, it's various off-shoots and internecine debates, amber ale and oatmeal stout "versions," engage with clips from Douglas Wilson, Richard Lusk (among other CREC ministers who have blocked us), and look at the original statements and lectures from Auburn Avenue in 2002. This is our most theologically dense episode of the series. It's a beatdown of "Federal Vision," a works-based Christianity. We end by describing how this system of doctrine necessarily leads to abuse and obedience that is "cloaked" in submission. Let's make the gospel scandalous, not scandalized. That which leads to human flourishing, not fear. Find R. Scott Clark here: Westminster Seminary California Heidelblog Heidelcast Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Are you in the OPC, and need help? Contact: Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition. Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. Meet Aimee Byrd (a former member of the OPC in the Northeast and prolific author), Ali LeReaux (a former member of the OPC in the Southeast), and Heather Nadreau (a former member of Christ Church Spokane, CREC). Spiritual abuse so often gets short shrift, but it upends everything you think about the gospel, the church, Jesus, and the pastors who are commanded to shepherd your soul. The gospel ceases being a salve in favor for a rod. It ceases building you up, by beating you down. ⁠Aimee Byrd⁠'s books mentioned in the episode: ⁠The Hope in Our Scars⁠ ⁠The Sexual Reformation⁠ ⁠Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood⁠  ⁠Why Can't We Be Friends?⁠ Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.

Need help? Contact Outreach Incorporated. Join us as we talk with Aimee Byrd, and repeat guests Kristin Kobes du Mez and Nathan & Christiana Wells about the marketing that "bites back." From subversive marketing tactics, to slick production. From rhetorical flair, to retro design. Canon Press, Canon Plus, New Saint Andrews, and Christ Church are the bad boys on the block. The bad boys who know how to market, because the "good" boys are scared of it. But these bad boys created a beast they no longer control. Let's get under the hood. Donate to help the survivor network ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Survivor Support Group⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠sonsofpatriarchy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to find resources, recommended reading, and more. Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ Examining Doug Wilson and Moscow: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ "Sons of Patriarchy" is brought to you by Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sarah Bader⁠⁠⁠⁠ Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sons-of-patriarchy--6517628/support.