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Jun 12, 2023 • 12min
Rich Girl Roundup: Should I Put My Money in CDs?
To CD, or not to CD…that is the question Henah and I are breaking down this week. When yields are 5% (or higher!) in safe financial instruments like certificates of deposit, what’s the case against fleeing to safety? (Hint: The NASDAQ is up 27% YTD, and the S&P 500 is popping off at nearly 12% YTD.)Welcome back to #RichGirlRoundup, Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and MWK's Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week.—Mentioned in the Episode:Why I Bonds Can Be A Distraction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LevWqIdvig
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Jun 7, 2023 • 31min
Hustle Culture or Quiet Quitting: Which Wins?
As a society, we now pit "anti-work" against "grindset mentality"—but we might actually be in a stage of self-defeating overcorrections at this point, including questionable trends like TradLife and Stay at Home Girlfriend Tok.In this week's episode, we cover the pros and cons of both hustle culture and quiet quitting, how employee stock ownership programs might help, and what a better balance between the two might be.Learn more about our sponsor, Vin Social: https://www.vinsocial.vipLearn more about our sponsor, CFA Institute: https://www.cfainstitute.org/en/programs/cfaLearn more about our sponsor, Fidelity: https://fidelity.com/stocksbythesliceLearn more about Betterment: http://www.betterment.com/moneywithkatieTranscripts can be found at podcast.moneywithkatie.com.—Mentioned in the Episode
Range by David Epstein: https://bookshop.org/a/90396/9780735214507
"The Secret to Conventional Success We Don't Talk About": https://moneywithkatie.com/blog/conventional-success-secrets
"On Meaningless Careers" by Jack Raines: https://www.youngmoney.co/p/meaningless-careers
"Gen Z Does Not Dream of Labor" from Vox: https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/22977663/gen-z-antiwork-capitalism
Wealth inequality in the 2010s: https://news.yahoo.com/super-richs-wealth-concentration-surpasses-gilded-age-levels-210802327.html
Laura Pitcher in Vice: https://i-d.vice.com/en/article/93a3we/slow-living-tiktok-trend
Zoe Hu in Dissent Magazine: https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/the-agoraphobic-fantasy-of-tradlife
Chelsea Fagan on "Quiet Quitting": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9CRz2dk-Q&ab_channel=TheFinancialDiet
Haley Nahman on Not Caring About Your Work: https://haleynahman.substack.com/p/145-not-caring-about-your-job-freedom
Kim Jordan of New Belgium Brewing and their employee stock ownership program: https://www.inc.com/magazine/202009/graham-winfrey/new-belgium-brewing-kim-jordan-esop-b-corp-acquisition-exit.html
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Jun 5, 2023 • 15min
Rich Girl Roundup: When Your Retirement Accounts Haven't Grown
One listener writes in that her retirement accounts haven't really grown over the past few years—so what's a Rich Girl to do?Katie and Henah chat through the last several years of returns and the economy, what to watch out for, and actions to consider for better results.Welcome back to #RichGirlRoundup, Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and MWK's Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week.—Mentioned in the Episode:Portfolio Visualizer: https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/
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May 31, 2023 • 1h 2min
Ramit Sethi on Business, Life, and Money
How can money make your life better? More fulfilling? Happier?To answer the question, I invited a very special guest on the show: the one and only Ramit Sethi, of How to Get Rich of Netflix fame. (And, of course, his bestseller, I Will Teach You to be Rich.)We discuss everything from business to personal finance philosophy to why he’s not afraid to be outspoken online. Plus, he shares helpful tips on seeing money as an opportunity, how to spend and not just save, and more. I love all my guests, but…this interview is up there for me.Learn more about our sponsor, Vin Social: https://www.vinsocial.vipLearn more about our sponsor, Fidelity: https://fidelity.com/stocksbythesliceLearn more about the CFA Institute: https://www.cfainstitute.org/en/programs/cfaLearn more about Betterment: http://www.betterment.com/moneywithkatieTranscripts can be found at podcast.moneywithkatie.com.—Mentioned in the Episode
I Will Teach You to be Rich: https://bookshop.org/a/90396/9781523505746
How to Get Rich on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81410436
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May 29, 2023 • 14min
Rich Girl Roundup: Responding to Our Most Controversial Topic
Our episode on the myth self-made millionaires (linked below) stirred up quite the conversation online—Katie and Henah chat through a few listener critiques that were sent in response. What do you think?Welcome back to #RichGirlRoundup, Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and MWK's Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week.—Mentioned in the Episode:
"Are Most Millionaires Actually Self-Made?": https://link.chtbl.com/4Cx-Hbo_
Why Are We Obsessed with Rich People Who Drive Old Cars? https://moneywithkatie.com/blog/why-are-we-obsessed-with-rich-people-with-old-cars
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May 24, 2023 • 1h 1min
The Ultimate Traditional vs. Roth 401(k) Strategy
Today, we're breaking down every. single. aspect. worth considering when you’re deciding between Traditional and Roth contributions in your 401(k), because making the “right choice” can mean a difference of hundreds of thousands of dollars in a few decades.So, what’s a Rich Girl to do when faced with a slew of retirement plan options and a dream? By the end of this episode, you’ll feel confident in your choice.Learn more about our sponsor, Vin Social: https://www.vinsocial.vipLearn more about our sponsor, Fidelity: https://fidelity.com/stocksbythesliceLearn more about the CFA Institute: https://www.cfainstitute.org/en/programs/cfaLearn more about Betterment: http://www.betterment.com/moneywithkatieTranscripts can be found at podcast.moneywithkatie.com.—Mentioned in the Episode
How to Pay No Taxes in Early Retirement: https://link.chtbl.com/9nugZS3C
Traditional vs. Roth breakdown: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pDXtuOBV5o_hyxVvlIzienhKbuE0ajGaj8mvPWGBOGM/edit#gid=0
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May 22, 2023 • 17min
Rich Girl Roundup: Why Katie Made Henah Max Out Her 401(k)
Sometimes we all need a little nudge to make the best financial decisions for ourselves. In this week's episode, Henah recounts how Katie helped her max out her 401(k) contributions, overcome her psychological hangups about "making less per paycheck," and how she's feeling about it now.Welcome back to #RichGirlRoundup, Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and MWK's Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week.-Read Money with Katie: https://moneywithkatie.com/Follow Money with Katie!Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/moneywithkatieTwitter - https://twitter.com/moneywithkatieTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@moneywithkatie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 17, 2023 • 35min
The Writers’ Strike & Negotiating Your Dream Job (feat. One of John Oliver's Writers)
Rich Girl Taylor Kay Phillips is spilling all the tea on the Hollywood writers' strike—and giving us the inside scoop on a career in writing for television. We also cover the broader implications of negotiating for a fair wage, including a few tactics to try when you're exploring a dream job.For more negotiation tips:
Check out this week's blog post for tactics specific to salaried workers: https://moneywithkatie.com/blog/salary-negotiation-tactics-for-increasing-income
Check out this week's YouTube video, where we unpack the tactics mentioned in this episode in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQDcsgLCfUg
Learn more about our sponsor, Vin Social: https://www.vinsocial.vipLearn more about our sponsor, Fidelity: https://fidelity.com/stocksbythesliceLearn more about our sponsor, Betterment: http://www.betterment.com/moneywithkatieTranscripts can be found at podcast.moneywithkatie.com.—Mentioned in the Episode
The Writers' Strike Deadline Is Here, from The Town with Matthew Belloni: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-town-with-matthew-belloni/id1612131897?i=1000611351559
The 2007 writers' strike and the economic impact: https://www.vox.com/culture/23696617/writers-strike-wga-2023-explained-residuals-streaming-ai
Zendaya's salary negotiation for Euphoria: https://www.gq.com/story/zendaya-euphoria-season-3-one-million-dollars-per-episode-salary
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May 15, 2023 • 17min
Rich Girl Roundup: Purchases We Regret & Purchases We Wish We Spent More On
Join us this week for a frank discussion about the things we wish we wouldn't have bought—and the stuff we wish we would've spent more on.Welcome back to #RichGirlRoundup, Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and MWK's Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week.-Mentioned in the Episode
The Money with Katie Show: Is Pet Insurance Worth it?: https://youtu.be/co9b8Vh_Rfs
How to Travel for Free in 2023: https://podcast.moneywithkatie.com/how-to-travel-for-free-in-2023/
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May 10, 2023 • 48min
Trapped in the Low Wage Cycle: A Shot at Building a Better Life
I’m so proud of the work the team did to develop and produce this episode. Typical personal finance advice works particularly well for people in a certain position (with good salaries, education, or inheritances), but it’s mostly useless if you’re not earning enough to make ends meet. To make matters more complex, the way some government assistance programs currently work can paradoxically make it harder to get ahead in the long term.Learn more about our sponsor, Vin Social: https://www.vinsocial.vipLearn more about our sponsor, Fidelity: https://fidelity.com/stocksbythesliceLearn more about The CFA Institute: https://www.cfainstitute.org/en/programs/cfaTranscripts can be found at podcast.moneywithkatie.com.—Mentioned in the Episode
Oxfam America Study on the Low-Wage Workforce: https://www.brookings.edu/research/meet-the-low-wage-workforce/
Women’s workforce participation: https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/SP22_BPEA_Goldin_conf-draft.pdf
97% of US Child Care workers are women: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/child-care-challenges-women-workforce-131402101.html
Center for American Progress on Childcare Deserts: https://childcaredeserts.org/2018/
Video Clip from Netflix series Maid: https://youtu.be/vM30cS-NZZU
Julie’s Family Learning Program: https://www.juliesfamily.org/our-founding-history/
Multnomah County Preschool for All Program: https://www.multco.us/finance/multnomah-county-preschool-all-personal-income-tax#
The Oregonian on the importance of attending pre kindergarten: https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2022/12/free-preschool-delayed-for-thousands-of-oregon-children-due-in-part-to-staffing-shortages.html
Full Department of Treasury Report on Childcare: https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/The-Economics-of-Childcare-Supply-09-14-final.pdf
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