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Dr. Jeff Moore // #LeadershipThursday // www.ptonice.com In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, ICE CEO Jeff Moore challenges the common belief that vacations and time off are necessary to decrease stress levels. He argues that the expectations around time off may not align with reality, often leading to discontentment. Jeff suggests reconceptualizing the idea of time off and vacations to have better trajectories and lower stress levels. Jeff then discusses what creates low stress levels and a healthy ecosystem. He addresses the issue of returning from vacations to a chronically disorganized routine. Jeff explains that when our day-to-day lives lack discipline and organization, we often find ourselves in a cycle of feeling like we need a vacation, being disappointed by its inability to meet our expectations, and feeling worse off as a result. Jeff emphasizes the importance of taking ownership of our day-to-day routines and reorganizing them to break free from this cycle. Take a listen to the podcast episode or read the full transcription below. If you're looking to learn more about courses designed to start your own practice, check out our Brick by Brick practice management course or our online physical therapy courses, check out our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 JEFF MOORE Alright team, what is up? Welcome to the PT on ICE Daily Show. Welcome to Leadership Thursday. I am Dr. Jeff Moore, currently serving as the CEO of Ice. Thrilled to have you here live via Instagram or YouTube. Thrilled to have you on the recording if that's the way you're taking in the show. It is Gut Check Thursday. Let's get right down to business. What is the workout that all of the Ice Train folks are going to be taking on this week? It is as follows. 35, 25, 15, 5. So we have 4 rounds descending in volume. They are going to be double dumbbell push press but not real heavy, 35 and 20. And then ab mat sit ups are going to be paired with that. Okay, so you've got your 35 dumbbell push press drop down. You get your 35 ab mat sit ups. In between each round, you're going to run 200 meters and the rounds are going to be 35, 25, 15, 5. Okay so you should be able to keep a pretty high intensity up because the volume on those rounds are dropping. Make sure you get a snippet of that. Put it on Instagram. Let us know what's up. Hashtag Ice Train. We love seeing everybody throwing down on those Gut Check Thursday workouts. Real quick, courses coming up. I want to highlight cervical spine. If you want to be out there solving neck pain, radiculopathy, headaches, all the things that come with that upper quarter region, get to this class. We've got 3 options coming up. August 26, 7. It's going to be at Onward Charlotte. September 9, 10. It's going to be at Onward Atlanta. In October 14, 15. Going to be at Onward Greenville. So going to be in North Carolina, going to be in Georgia, going to be in South Carolina. So belt there and hit that course. Learn those skills. Serve those patients well. Okay, welcome back to Leadership Thursday. 02:01 VACATON & WORK-LIFE BALANCE We are going to have a conversation about why I think we've gotten vacations wrong. And I want to talk a little bit about the origin of this episode. So the other day I posted on Instagram some of the best advice I've ever received. It was from a friend. It was many, many years ago. And he said to me, if you play between the ages of 25 and 35, you will work hard for the rest of your life. If you work hard between the ages of 25 and 35, you will play for the rest of your life. And as I've watched now coming up on wrapping up the second decade of my career, I've seen a lot of people finish off their careers, seen a lot of people start them, myself going through my own. A lot of observation and the amount of truth embedded in that quote has been nothing short of shocking. When you get in the right lane early, and you get to you get with the right people early, you wind up doing what you love and excelling at it. And of course, just like investing, the earlier you do that, the more it compounds. And it really creates a scenario where the back two thirds of your career not only are more of what you love, but really decompress the stress. On the other hand, if you kind of get yourself into a financial hole and you're not in the right lane, and you're nearing the halfway point of your career, it really becomes a tough thing to dig out of. And it just sets you up for a bit more of a grind on the back end. Now we could have a whole episode about that quote alone, but that quote got a lot of feedback. And anytime you talk about working hard, you tend to get a lot of DMs and messages about the need for people to avoid burnout. And specifically that people need vacations and time off to decrease their stress levels. 03:46 EXPECTATIONS AROUND TIME OFF That's what I want to zone in on because I think that our expectations around time off are really, really aired, if you will. And the problem with your expectations not being aligned with reality is that discontent is the inevitable result of that. So let's see if we can't reconceptualize this a bit and wind up with better trajectories. So think about what creates low stress levels. So if we're going to talk about stress levels, what creates low stress levels? What creates a healthy ecosystem? The answer is the following. Now we could put nine bullets here, but let's go with the really, really big rocks. That when you have them dialed in, your stress levels tend to be low, your nervous system tends to be really under wraps, you tend to feel really dialed. Probably the biggest one we'd all agree on is sleep quality. The consistency of it we know is the primary driver. But the other small things, having it cold in the room, having it dark when you're eating food, not having those late meals, sleep consistency is probably, or sleep quality, driven primarily by consistency, is one of the biggest drivers to day to day having low stress, having more energy. Number two is a regular fitness routine. You're getting to the gym at the same time that you're engaging in quality fitness. Number three is nutrition, that you're eating a quality, clean, well-balanced diet. Sufficient in protein, void, hopefully, of a lot of nonsense and processed foods, that you're eating quality nutrition. When you're doing these things that we preach about all the time, your ecosystem tends to be optimal, your stress levels tend to be low, you tend to feel your best when those variables are dialed in. Now think about how those variables fare when you're on vacation. And I think we would all agree the answer is poorly. You're sleeping in a totally foreign environment, your consistency of your sleep is all over the map, you're trying to get some fitness in but it's random, it's not nearly as structured as usual, and your nutrition, let's be honest, leaves a lot to be desired. It's usually very fun food, you're usually trying a lot of new things, but you tend to be eating late at night, it affects your sleep quality, all of the primary metrics that create that really well-defined healthy, low-stress human are significantly disrupted, specifically when you're on vacation. Now does this mean, right, and I think it's worth saying that if that's not the case, if those things, if your sleep quality, your gym routine, your nutrition, if those things are better when you're on vacation, your day-to-day routine needs a serious second look. So if you don't have those things dialed in better on your day-to-day and your usual environment compared to when you are out in some random state or country where you've got no control of the other variables, if you do better on those things out there, you need a serious look at your level of discipline and organization on your day-to-day life. But I think for the vast majority, as we would agree, those things are pretty dialed when we're at home and they are very erratic when we're on vacation. Now does this mean that we shouldn't take vacations? And the answer to that is of course not, right? A lot of the coolest memories in your life, right? The things that you're going to do that you're going to look back on and say, gosh, that was crazy or do you remember that? And the stories that fill your life, a lot of those things are going to be formed when you're on vacation. Your perspective will expand, right? You're going to be in new environments. You're going to be seeing new people. You're going to be looking at things differently because you're outside of your usual routine. Your relationships with those that you go on will often deepen, whether it's your partner or your family or your friends, right? You rarely spend that kind of concentrated time and it creates incredible opportunity for those relationships to deepen. All of these incredible things are going to happen when you're on vacation. What will not happen though is usually that your stress level will drop because the things that drive that are generally disrupted. So then what's the secret sauce? 08:18 DEVELOPING A ROUTINE FOR VACATION The secret sauce is developing a routine that allows you to look forward to, but never need a vacation. That's the most important thing, right? You can't wait to do it. It's going to be a blast. You know those memories are going to be formed, but you don't need it because your routine day to day is so dialed that you feel outstanding, even under the presence of high workload because you've dialed in those metrics. So developing a routine that allows you to look forward to it, but not be desperate for it, not require it. And number two enables you to bounce back upon your return because if you do vacations right, a lot of that stuff is probably disrupted and you're probably coming home, hopefully thinking the classic quote, I can't wait to get back into my routine. That is a very healthy thing to be thinking, right? Like, hey, we went out there, we collected incredible memories, we got new perspective, we deepened relationships, we did all of the enriching things that vacation can bring. But now I'm pumped to get back into my dialed in routine because that's what's going to drop back down my stress level. That's what's going to allow me to perform optimally. So hopefully you're coming back to a routine that's dialed that not only did you not even need the vacation in the first place, you're bouncing back in two to three days, as opposed to having that post vacation hangover for weeks on end where you can't get your act together, which only increases your stress, which makes you need to step away again. And now you're in this vicious cycle of trying to survive when you're there and always wanting to be gone. The exact opposite should be true. You should love when you're gone and be taking a ton from that, but you should be strengthening while you're home to be able to enable that. Not weakening while you're home, hoping that it can do something that it can't when you step away. That's the challenge. The bottom line is people need more disciplined lives to decrease their stress levels. And people need vacations to enrich their existence. Unfortunately, a lack of discipline in our day to day lives requires a need and a desire for vacations chronically and a hope that they can do something that they usually won't. Simply because the organization of them doesn't tend to organize our nervous system. It tends to disrupt it, which in the right amount, when you've already got it balanced, is an amazing stimulus to get you to think differently, to get you to freshen up, if you will. 11:14 TAKING OWNERSHIP OF ROUTINE But if you are coming back to a routine that's chronically disorganized, you're going to be in that vicious cycle of, I feel like I need a vacation. The vacation didn't do what I wanted it to do. Now I'm a little bit worse off. And we go back and forth and back and forth. And there's really no getting out of that wheel until we reorganize and take ownership of what we're doing on the day to day. Then we can enjoy the vacations and be strengthened by our routine. So just want to put that out there because so often people are saying that people need vacations to decrease stress. I think we can live in a way that we don't need that at all. And yet we do get great things from those breaks and can certainly take them as opportunity allows. Hope that makes some sense. Had some great conversations this week. Feel free to continue those in the comments. Everybody have a wonderful Thursday. Thanks for being here on Leadership Thursday.

Dr. Jeff Musgrave // #GeriOnICE // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Modern Management of the Older Adult faculty member Jeff Musgrave discusses a randomized control trial that investigates the impact of inflammation and different intensities of strength training on global inflammatory load and immune response. The study involved 81 participants, aged 65 to 75, who underwent a 12-week strength training program at varying intensities. Thigh muscle volume was measured using computed tomography, and blood tests were conducted to assess inflammation markers. The results of the study revealed that moderate and high intensity strength training yielded superior improvements compared to moderate and low intensity training. Participants in the moderate and high intensity group experienced a 15% increase in thigh muscle volume, while those in the moderate and low intensity group only saw a 9% increase. Furthermore, the moderate and high intensity group exhibited reduced thigh fat volume, decreased pro-inflammatory cytokines, increased anti-inflammatory cytokines, and elevated free floating leukocytes. Jeff underscores the significance of incorporating moderate to high intensity strength training for older adults, particularly those in the 65 to 75 age range. He highlights the sedentary and overweight state of many older adults in the US, emphasizing the need to address frailty in this population. Jeff also discusses the risks associated with not implementing moderate to high intensity strength training, including increased inflammation, decreased muscle volume, and heightened body fat. Take a listen to learn how to better serve this population of patients & athletes. If you're looking to learn more about live courses designed to better serve older adults in physical therapy or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What's up everybody? Welcome back to the PT on ICE Daily Show. Before we jump into today's episode, let's chat about Jane, our show sponsor. Jane makes the Daily Show possible and is the practice management software that so many folks here at ICE utilize. The team at Jane knows how important it is for your patients to get the care they need. And with this in mind, they've made it really easy and convenient for patients to book online. One tip that has worked well for a lot of practices is to make the booking button on your website prominent so patients can't miss it. Once clicked, they get redirected to a beautifully branded online booking site. And from there, the entire booking process only takes around two minutes. After booking an appointment, patients get access to a secure portal where they can conveniently manage their appointments and payment details, add themselves to a waitlist, opt in to text and email reminders, and fill out their intake form. If you all are curious to learn more about online booking with Jane, head over to jane.app slash physical therapy. Book their one-on-one demo with a member of their team. And if you're ready to get started, make sure to use the code ICEPT1MO. When you sign up, that gives you a one-month grace period that gets applied to your new account. Thanks, everybody. Enjoy today's show. 01:43 JEFF MUSGRAVE Welcome to the PT on ICE Daily Show. It is Wednesday, so that means it is all things geriatrics. We like to call this Geri on ICE. So can't wait to get into a deep dive of this randomized control trial that just dropped last month in July, talking about inflammation, various intensities of strength training, how that impacts our global inflammatory load, as well as things like our immune response. And then we're going to deep dive after the article into what happens if you don't follow the results of this study and if you do, what the opportunity is for your patients. But before we get into that, we've got lots of opportunities. If you want to continue the learning process, if you want to sharpen the sword when it comes to working with older adults, we have got just a handful of seats left in Essential Foundation. So if you want to jump in, you need to do that quick. There are only a few seats left. We can still get you on boarded. You're not going to miss a thing. If you want to hop in for advanced concepts, you've already had Essential Foundations. The next cohort is going to be October 10th. And then if you want to see us live on the road, the revamp is releasing this weekend. I cannot wait. All of the faculty of the older adult division are descending on Lexington, Kentucky. We're coming to the bluegrass to show show out with this new content. It's going to be super fun. If you miss getting your seat for that this weekend, next weekend, we're going to be both in Bedford, Texas, as well as in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 06:20 IMPACT= OF MODERATE AND HIGH INTENSITY STRENGTH TRAINING FOR OLDER ADULTS So as promised, the study, Intensity Effects of Strengthening Exercise on Thigh Muscle Volume, Pro and Anti-Inflammatory Cytokines, Immunocytes in the Elderly, a randomized control trial. So this trial had 81 participants. We've got adults 65 to 75 years old. 39 of those were male. 41 of those were female. And they were taken through a 12 week strength training program at various intensities. Baseline measures were thigh muscle volume via a computed tomography and blood test. They also did their due diligence. We know how important nutrition is to get an idea, at least of their caloric intake. Now, did not go into detail of how much protein, how much fat, how many carbs. Didn't look at macros, but they did identify that all the adults in the study were consuming about the same calories on average. So the control group spent 10 to 15 minutes doing meditation and stretching. Not things that are awful, but definitely the control group when we're talking about effects of strength training. The experimental group did 50 minutes of exercise three days a week. They had squatting, they did pressing movements, spine flexion and extension on Mondays and Fridays. On Wednesdays, they hit those knee flexors, extensors. They did ankle planar flexion, chest flies and rows. All of this was primarily done on machines, machine based exercises. And then when they broke down the different intensities, what they did is they recalculated each month and they worked them off different repetition maxes. So the low intensity strength training group worked off of a 10 rep max, a 9 rep max and then an 8 rep max. If you're looking consecutively across those three months as it was a 12 week study. The moderate intensity group hit 10 rep max, 9 and 8 rep maxes and recalculated their strength each month. And then the high intensity group worked off an 8 rep max, a 7 rep max and a 6 rep max. So I thought that was pretty cool that they recalculated their strength and then they used the same measure there of course to calculate their intensity for their strength training. So, after 12 weeks of strength training, the moderate and high intensity strength training group had superior improvements in their thigh muscle volume. Their thigh muscles got larger at a percentage of about 15% versus 9% on the moderate and low side of things. They showed reduced thigh fat volume, reduced pro-inflammatory cytokines, increased anti-inflammatory cytokines as well as increased their free floating leukocytes. Lots of $10 terms in there, but the reality is when we're looking at the impact of moderate or low intensity versus moderate and high intensity. It was statistically significant that moderate and high intensity strength training for older adults superior. Whether you're talking about adding muscle, reducing fat, reducing inflammation and even bolstering the immune system, which really I thought was super cool. So that's the basics of the study. If you've been hanging around the Institute of Clinical Excellence in this community, you're not going to be surprised to hear the results of the study. But what I want you to do is I want us to go a level deeper. 09:30 AGING & STRENGTH TRAINING INTERVENTIONS I want you to think about your patients on your caseload that are 65 to 75 years old. The state of the union on older adults, especially in the US more so than other places in the world, is we are inactive. We are overweight. We are not hitting ACSM guidelines. Most older adults in that 65 plus category are on somewhere on the continuum of frailty. They have low physical reserve. They have low physical resiliency. They are vulnerable to injury and decline, losing their independence. So most of our clients are on this very rapid downward trajectory. And we have got at our hands the tools, rehab clinicians. We are able to intervene with strength training intervention. If we will go moderate to high intensity, we know we can increase their muscle mass. We can reduce reduce their body fat. We can reduce inflammation. And let's think about some of the conditions that are on board outside of low reserve, low resiliency. We like to think about a thing called one repetition max living. They are very near their 100 percent capacity to get out of a chair. Think about your client who cannot stand from their normal chair without using their arms. Their one repetition max squat is less than body weight. And think about how many times they have to stand up and sit down throughout the day, giving a near one repetition max effort. Crazy! How exhausting is life for those people that are barely able to do their activities of daily living? I want you to also think about some of these global inflammatory conditions. These inflammatory markers increase the risk of progressions in arthritis, cardiovascular disease, metabolic syndromes like diabetes. Think about how many of our patients are sitting in this very vulnerable situation. So we've got this picture of our older adults on the decline, probably on the frailty spectrum. If they're on our caseload, probably have arthritis, probably have inflammatory conditions. Then we think about the opportunity that we have if we just add high intensity strength training intervention. Think about the change that you can make for them. How you can bolster their strength, their function. Get them away from that line of independence where they can just not barely get through their activities, but start building some sizeable reserve. Think about how much we can do if we hit moderate to high intensity. If they don't have inflammatory conditions yet, think about isolating them from that risk. And then not even covered in the study because these were not primary measures they were tracking, but just knowing the literature for older adults. 12:06 FRAILITY & AGING INTERVENTIONS Think about the benefit of heavier loads that's not even discussed in this study. Think about their bone density. Think about their confidence. If they know they can lift way more than they have to in daily life, is that going to impact their confidence? Is having more confidence going to help them lift with better mechanics more confidently? Is it going to help them balance in unusual scenarios more confidently? Absolutely. Confidence in that psychological impact. Don't count that out. So just think about all the opportunities with heavier load. And then what I want you to think about is maybe you're still on the fence with this stuff and you're like, I don't know if that's safe. I'm a little concerned. Maybe you don't feel quite equipped or you've not seen that modeled before and you're a little bit nervous. But I want you to think about this. I want you to think about the risk and what happens to these older adults in a very vulnerable situation if you don't. If you don't hit them with moderate to high intensity, I want to outline some of the results of the control group. During just that 12 week period where they did not perform moderate to high intensity or any strength training whatsoever, their resting inflammation went up. Their muscle volume went down. Their body fat went up. Their leukocytes went down. They became way more vulnerable in a 12 week period, just 12 weeks of not doing what they should be on the strength training train. Think about what happened to markers that were not tested. Think about their bone density. Think about their ability to get through their day with enough reserve and enough strength to really make it through the day. Just think about all the missed opportunities. I'm going to recap real quick. I know I'm super pumped about this. This is what it's all about, team. But I want you to think about the opportunity with moderate to high strength training interventions. Based on this randomized control trial, we can feel confident that we're going to increase their muscle thigh volume. Thinking about things like sarcopenia, frailty, all those categories. We can reduce their body fat. We can reduce pro-inflammatory markers. We can increase anti-inflammatory markers. We can bolster the immune system. Just based on this study, forget about bone density. Forget about one rep max living. Forget about confidence. We know those things just from this study. Then I want you to think about what you can do for your patients if you start these interventions. Think about how powerful of a tool you have. You have the keys to the castle in your pocket. If we can just go a little bit heavier. Remember, it's relative. It is relative. Yes, I will be sharing the link to this study in the caption. What happens if you don't? If you don't, we know this steady decline of frailty, deconditioning is going to continue. We know based on this study that if we don't intervene here, our older adults are going to become more frail. They're going to lose reserve. They're going to lose more muscle mass, be at higher risk of sarcopenia. We know that they're going to have higher inflammatory markers. They're going to be more at risk for progression in arthritis, metabolic conditions, cardiovascular disease. Just think about what processes you're allowing to hasten on. What's going to happen to your client if you don't get on board? Team, super spicy, super pumped about this. Got a little impassioned about this. I'll be sharing the link to this study in the caption. Super cool. Lots to think about here. Would love to hear your thoughts. Would love to hear if you have any success stories of clients that you've been using, moderate to high intensity strength training, and what the results have been. Otherwise, team, I hope you have a wonderful Wednesday and we will see you soon. 14:10 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on Ice Daily Show. If you enjoyed this content, head on over to iTunes and leave us a review. Be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the Institute of Clinical Excellence. If you're interested in getting plugged into more ice content on a weekly basis while earning CUs from home, check out our virtual ICE online mentorship program at ptonice.com. While you're there, sign up for our hump day hustling newsletter for a free email every Wednesday morning with our top five research articles and social media posts that we think are worth reading. Head over to ptonice.com and scroll to the bottom of the page to sign up.

Dr. Mark Gallant // #ClinicalTuesday // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Extremity Division Leader Mark Gallant discusses recent research evaluating the effects of training programs that prioritize the back squat vs. the barbell hip thrust.  Take a listen or check out the episode transcription below. If you're looking to learn more about our Extremity Management course or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What is up PT on Ice Crew, Dr. Mark Gallant here having some trouble with YouTube webcams this morning so we're going to be solely on Instagram and we'll get it downloaded for you on the on the back end for the YouTube. Again, I'm Dr. Mark Gallant, lead faculty with the Ice Extremity Management Division alongside Lindsey Huey, Eric Chaconis. We're going to get into some hip thrusts versus back squats today. Before we do that, if you've been looking to sign up for an ice physio course, the courses that are on the website now are the only courses that are going to be there for the remainder of 2023. So if you've been on the fence thinking about jumping in, those fall courses are the fall courses. So go ahead and get that dialed up and come join us on the road. If you've been looking to join the extremity management faculty on the road, Lindsey is going to be in Rochester Hills, Michigan this weekend. So if you want to it's a beautiful time of year in Michigan. If you want to jump up there, grab a seat. The course with Lindsey that's still available. And then I'll be in Amarillo, Texas September 9th and 10th. So I'd definitely love to see you all out on the road. One of the things that Lindsey and I and Cody and Kristen and all the staff for extremity management, one thing we're always trying to help do is to simplify our exercise selection and dosage so that for any n equals one patient that comes into the clinic, it's a bit easier for us as clinicians to go like, based on these parameters, this will likely be the best choice exercise and the best choice dosage for this individual. 02:39 HIP THRUSTS VS. BACK SQUATS And we had an article released last month. It's not even published in a journal yet. It came out of Auburn University. That's going to help us do just that. So the lead author on the paper is Daniel Plotkin with Brett Contreras, aka the glute guy, also being an author on the paper. And what they did in this paper is they wanted to compare. If we gave a group of people hip thrusts for nine weeks, and we gave another group of people back squats for nine weeks, of those folks getting those individual programs, who would have the greatest strength gains and who would have the greatest hypertrophy gains to the glute max specifically. So that's what they looked at. They took a group of individuals, about 34 individuals, who were 18 to 30, who had not done any significant training in over five years and were relatively healthy. So BMI under 30. So relatively young, relatively healthy and under trained. At baseline, what they assessed was they assessed three rep max for their back squat. They assessed three rep max for their barbell hip thruster, three rep max for a deadlift, and hip extension against a force plate to see how much output that glute max was doing. They also, which is kind of cool, they threw them through an MRI tube. And that's how they got a measure of how dense and how robust their glute max tissue was. So they threw everyone, day one, through that MRI, got an assessment of how thick their glute max was, how thick that booty was, and then they reassessed that after nine weeks. The final piece they assessed was they took EMG output for both the back squat and the hip thrust. So what did they do for an intervention? So over the course of nine weeks, one group got hip thrusts and one group got barbell back squat. Each group did nine weeks. Week one, they did three sets of eight to 12 reps. Week two, they did four sets of eight to 12 reps. Weeks three through six, they did five sets of eight to 12 reps. And then week seven through nine, they did six sets of eight to 12 reps. So over the course of the program, they were getting a lot more volume as time went on. The way they controlled for the intensity, if a person was able to do more than 12 repetitions at any given set, they bumped the weight up. If they were unable to get to eight reps, they lowered the weight down. So they always wanted to keep it between those eight to 12 reps while making it approaching failure. So getting close to failure for each of those individuals to really challenge those tissues overall. So each group did twice a week, only back squat for the back squat group, two days a week with those loading parameters. Hip thrust, twice a week, only hip thrust for that nine weeks with those loading parameters. 05:12 THE LAW OF SPECIFICITY What shook out at the end of the nine weeks was pretty cool. We're starting to see some strength and conditioning principles that are becoming clearer for us as better studies come along, as time goes on. The number one thing that we continue to see is the law of specificity. If you want your client to get better at back squats, have them do back squats. If you want your client to get better at hip thrusts, have them do hip thrusts. If you want your client to get better at deadlifts, have them deadlift. You want them to get better at step ups, have them step up, so on and so on. And that's exactly what we saw in this study. The group that did barbell back squat got significantly stronger at their three rep max back squat at the end of that nine weeks with only minimal gains in their barbell hip thrust, in their deadlift, in their force plate. They made gains in those other things. They were not nearly as significant as the gains as they made on the specific exercise they were doing. Same for the barbell hip thrust. The group that did the barbell hip thrust made significant gains in their three rep max on the barbell hip thrust. We did not see the same significance in their back squat, in their deadlift, and in their isometric hip extension against the force plate. Again, they made some gains, not as significant as the specific exercise. So again, we're seeing this article reinforce. If you want to get better at a specific thing, that person will need to do that thing as soon as their tissues can tolerate it, as soon as they're ready. Get them doing the thing that they desire to get better at. The other cool thing about this paper was hypertrophy. What we saw with hypertrophy with this study is both groups hypertrophied their glute max equally. So it didn't matter whether you were in the back squat group, whether you were in the hip thrust group, both groups showed glute gains. 09:58 HYPERTROPHY AND EXERCISE SELECTION And what we're seeing in a lot of the hypertrophy research is exactly this, where as long as the tissue is being stimulated at a challenging level and enough volume, that's good enough for the tissue to grow. So this study met those two criteria. It had an extreme amount of volume. So getting up to six sets of eight to 12 reps is a ton of time under tension for a tissue. And by controlling that they always wanted those folks to be approaching failure at a challenging range between eight to 12 reps, we got both high volume and high intensity. If those two parameters are on board and the tissue is getting some stimulus, almost always we're going to see some local tissue change or some growth. So again, law of specificity, do the thing that the person wants to do. And if you're looking for local tissue changes, hypertrophy, it seems to not matter as much which specific exercise. As long as the tissue is being challenged at an appropriate volume and at an appropriate intensity. The other interesting thing about this study was the EMG output did not seem to matter. So the barbell hip thrust had a higher EMG output for the glutes and that did not correlate to either strength gains or to more hypertrophy. Again, the strength games came from specificity. The hypertrophy gains came on board because the intensity was appropriated up. Now, looking at any study, we always want to be aware that there's problems with every study or challenges to any study that comes across the board. There are no perfect studies out there. The challenges with this study were it was a relatively low population. So there were 34 individuals, 18 in the hip thrust group, 16 in the squat group. So a fairly small population. They were all young and relatively healthy, which is going to be different than our general physical therapy population. And they were all significantly undertrained. So no one that was accepted in the study had more than one day a week for over five years of weightlifting experience. So appreciate that likely these gains that we saw in strength and these gains that we saw in hypertrophy are somewhat attributed to that. These folks were so significantly undertrained. And we've all seen that the more undertrained the person is, the easier it is for them to adapt early on. Also, with this, nine weeks is a fairly short amount of time to have a strength and conditioning or a hypertrophy program show results. It's likely that because they were undertrained is why we saw results in nine weeks. With our general physical therapy clients, some of whom may have been weightlifting for 15, 20, 30 years, we would expect a bit longer time to get true tissue adaptations and to get true strength adaptations. So again, to recap, study showed hip thrust versus barbell back squat. If you want to get better at the hip thrust, do the hip thrust. If you want to get better at the barbell back squat, you want to get stronger at that, do the barbell back squat. If you want to hypertrophy, whichever exercise you want to choose is great as long as you've got the intensity and the volume. The final cool thing that this study showed was that when someone did the barbell back squat, they had a ton of adductor activation and ton of quad activation and a ton of glute activation versus the hip thrust, which had primarily glute activation with far less hip adductor or quad activation. So if you've got a patient who comes in and they're in a lot of pain and you say, man, they've got some knee pain on board, their adductors seem a bit irritable, those quads are all gummed up. And we want to make sure that that athlete or that client is maintaining powerful hip extension, which is one of the most important movements for all humans. Then let's bias early on to the barbell hip thrust because it's not going to challenge those adductors and those quads. When that patient starts to get better and their adductors and their quads are not as irritable and they're not as gummed up, then let's go straight after that squat. Or on the flip side, you have no tissue irritability on board and that person's daily life requires a lot of squatting. It's going to behoove you to go right after that squat instead of spending time on the hip thrust early on. In reality, we've beaten a dead horse with this saying over the years and not more. For most of our folks, you're going to want to program hip thrust. You're going to want to program some squats. You're going to throw your deadlifts in there to have a nice well-rounded program. Law of specificity. Make sure the intensity is good. Make sure the volume is good. Have a great Tuesday treating clients. Can't wait to see you all on the road. Have a great rest of your day. Always grateful to be speaking on this podcast and hope to see you all soon. 11:37 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on Ice Daily Show. If you enjoyed this content, head on over to iTunes and leave us a review. 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Dr. Jess Gingerich // #ICEPelvic // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, #ICEPelvic faculty member Jess Gingerich discusses considerations for postpartum exercise include the type of birth, birth trauma, sleep deprivation, and nutrition. It is important to take into account the impact of the birth on the postpartum exercise plan, especially if it was traumatic physically or emotionally. Respecting the individual's experience is crucial. Additionally, sleep deprivation and nutrition should be considered. If a mother is struggling to get proper nutrition due to the demands of caring for a newborn, adjustments may need to be made to the exercise plan. It is also important to consider specific goals when designing a postpartum exercise plan. The episode highlights three recommended exercises to initiate postpartum impact: heel drops, alternating hops, and jump rope exercises. Heel drops involve going up onto your toes and dropping your heels down. Alternating hops are done by moving side to side and can be performed with or without a jump rope. Using a jump rope adds an extra challenge and requires coordination. The third exercise is small hops with both feet. These exercises are ideal for postpartum women who want to regain strength and fitness after giving birth. However, it is crucial to consider the type of birth, any birth trauma, sleep deprivation, and nutrition when starting these exercises. Monitoring for symptoms such as leakage, pressure, pain, and bleeding is also important during the progression into impact exercises. Breastfeeding moms should be advised to wear a supportive bra during exercise for added comfort. Jess emphasizes the importance of utilizing progressive overload principles when starting with small impact movements and gradually increasing intensity. She stresses the significance of meeting the individual where they are and understanding that progressive overload is a natural part of the process. This means that as the individual progresses and adapts to the small impact movements, they should gradually increase the intensity of their exercises to continue challenging their pelvic floor muscles and promoting strength and function. Jess also highlights the importance of speaking positively about exercise and the pelvic floor, as it encourages individuals to stay active and avoid deconditioning. By incorporating progressive overload principles, individuals can safely and effectively strengthen their pelvic floor muscles while minimizing the risk of injury or negative symptoms. Take a listen to learn how to better serve this population of patients & athletes. If you're looking to learn more about our live pregnancy and postpartum physical therapy courses or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What's up everybody? We are back with another episode of the PT on Ice Daily Show. Before we jump in, let's chat about Jane for a moment as they are our sure sponsor and they make this thing possible. The team at Jane understands that payment processing can be complex, so they built in an integrated payment solution called Jane Payments to help make things as simple as possible so you can get paid. If you're looking for an easy way to navigate payments, here's what we recommend. Head over to jane.app slash payments, book a one-on-one demo with a member of Jane's support team. This can give you a better sense of how Jane Payments can integrate with your practice and you can browse through several other popular features that Jane Payments supports, like memberships with the option to automatically invoice and process your membership payments online. If you know you're ready to get started, you can sign up for Jane and make sure when you do, you use the code ICEPT1MO as that gives you a one-month grace period while you settle in. Once you're in your new Jane account, you can flip the switch for Jane Payments at any time. Let the Jane team know if you need a hand with anything. They offer unlimited support and are always happy to jump in. Thanks everybody. Enjoy today's PT on Ice Daily Show. 01:25 JESSICA GINGERICH Good morning PT on Ice podcast. My name is Dr. Jessica Gingrich and I am on faculty with the pelvic division here at ICE. So we just finished up a wonderful weekend of the CrossFit Games. We have a huge congratulations to extend to Dr. Kelly Benfey. She is on faculty with the CMFA division. Her team took 16th place this weekend and boy was that fun to watch her compete. So I was on virtual ice last Tuesday and what I want to do today is talk a little bit about that virtual ice. So I've been on here the last couple times talking about the benefits of certain things early in the early postpartum period. So within that first 12 weeks postpartum. So I wanted to continue that and just what a wonderful time to do it as we did have a mom on the podium this year. So Ariel Loewen took third place. She has a child as she's a mom and she's just out here crushing the fitness space. So before we dive into that we're going to talk about early impact which is going to be really fun. We're going to start to reframe that a little bit but we do have courses coming your way. So hop on the website PT on Ice dot com to check that out. We have two courses here with the pelvic division. We have an eight week online course that bridges everything from gymnastics and barbell lifting to handstand push-ups to everything with the pelvic space with using the internal exam to help get people back to where they need to go. And then we have a two day live course and that one is just really fun. We get moving a lot. So if that is something that's on your list go ahead and head over there to secure your spot. 03:45 THE FOURTH TRIMESTER So we are going to talk about that early impact in the fourth trimester. So the fourth trimester is the first 12 weeks postpartum. There's a lot of things that matter here but I want to start to reconceptualize the phrase of this or certain things put a lot of pressure on your pelvic floor. So we know that growing a fetus is going to put more demand on the anterior abdominal wall as well as the pelvic floor as well as a lot of other systems in the body. So does a sneeze. Like when we sneeze it puts a lot of pressure on the pelvic floor. When we lift weights it puts a lot of pressure on the pelvic floor. When we lift our child that then wiggles around it's going to put a lot of pressure on the pelvic floor. The phrase this puts a lot of pressure on your pelvic floor we want to maybe refrain from doing that can be a very fearful message. And also one that's just incorrect at this point. We want to do it in a way that is going to allow the pelvic floor to succeed. We don't want to blast through symptoms of leakage or heaviness or pain but we need to start reconceptualizing this especially speaking to our clients. So now before we jump in, no pun intended there, impact, we want to understand the demands placed on the pelvic floor in the day to day. So number one when you have a baby whether it's a c-section or a vaginal delivery we do have a healing process. So with a vaginal birth if there is no tissue trauma, so this is a vaginal birth with no tearing, no episiotomy and episiotomy is where they would cut to allow more room. We know that the tissues stretch approximately three times, 300 times their original length. So right then and there we can put that as tissue trauma, right? That is tissue trauma without any disruption to the sarcomeres or the skin or the connective tissue. Patients will need about four to six weeks for healing but this doesn't mean that we can't do nothing for four to six weeks. Now there's going to be probably a lot of questions that come with this because everyone is different, right? So we need to understand that and set the expectation early can be super helpful. So in educating our patients I love to give a timeline. So I usually say between six and twelve weeks, sometimes six and eight weeks depending on where that person is. And that's kind of nice because then when they get back to doing impact things that's now something where they're like oh I was kind of anticipating twelve weeks instead of now, right? And so that gap is pretty big but at least it allows them to be like okay I have this set date or timeframe if you will where we're going to start working back to that. 04:16 PRESSURE ON THE PELVIC FLOOR Number two, we need to start talking about toileting. We need to teach people how to poop. We need to teach people how to pee. If we are not asking that question, are you burying down when you go to the bathroom? Are you pushing your pee out? You're going to be missing a big mark here. Your pelvic floor is reflexive. So as pressure gets put down on it, it should be turning on. So if you're going to the bathroom and you're burying down, we're putting a lot of pressure on the organs if you will. However, we're also putting pressure on the pelvic floor that's likely kicking it on and if it's not, it's just pushing it downward. So we need to be asking about that. We need to be encouraging a squatty potty. We need to be encouraging fluid, water intake, fiber intake and really the time spent on the toilet and this goes for males too. So spending a lot of time on the toilet just isn't what you want to do. If they are the person that takes their phone in with them, you could even tell them hey let's try not taking your phone in to see if you get off the toilet sooner. 08:12 BLADDER IRRITANTS So number three, we do have oral intake. So we talked about water intake just a second ago, but just recognizing that beverages like carbonation, alcohol, artificial sweeteners, they could be bladder irritants. And so I went to the gym this morning and I did one of the CrossFit Games workouts today called Halina, which is a three rounds of 400 meter run, 12 bar muscle ups and then 21 dumbbell snatches. I went at 7.15 so I had coffee and I had to go to the bathroom probably three times before I went and did the workout because that is a bladder irritant for me. So when we talk about bladder irritants, we are not saying stop having these things. It's just saying hey this may be a trigger and so if this is happening to you, that's okay. Just recognize that if you have double unders or running or something, box jumps, that may be we try to have the coffee after the workout or maybe you have one cup instead of two or can we sandwich that coffee with some water to dilute the urine a bit. That's one of the big things is not necessarily taking those things away but just telling them hey this could just be a bladder irritant for you. It looks different for everyone. Number four and probably one of the biggest ones is the symptom threshold. Helping your client find their symptom threshold is going to mean that they're going to be reaching their symptoms. They are going to likely be leaking. They're going to likely be maybe feeling like they're going to leak and that can be a very daunting thing but it's going to give us a lot of feedback, a lot of them feedback and it's going to give them a lot of freedom when they're in the gym. If you reach this threshold, take a second, pause, take a breath. Maybe we do a little bit of jumping and then we back off and we do the bike and get a sprint in. Or we do another option for jumping. I'm going to talk about some options here in a second. Speaking positively about exercise and their pelvic floor is huge. They are not going to ruin their pelvic floor. I would rather, we would rather have someone stay active in the gym or whatever that looks like for them rather than telling them they're going to ruin something so they stop and then fast forward 30 years later and now they're in a skilled nursing home sooner because they're massively deconditioned or they have a massive injury because of being deconditioned. Now that we have some guidance on the return factors that we want to manipulate and play around with, let's start using pressure rather than, or rather forces if you will, to strengthen the pelvic floor. Now there are considerations we need to keep in mind, like the type of birth, we talked about that earlier. Birth trauma, so this could actually be physical as well as emotional. So if you have someone who is identifying that their birth is pretty traumatic, we're going to respect that. Sleep deprivation, nutrition, if your mom is having a hard time getting protein in and carbs in and good fats in because every time she goes to eat her baby starts to cry, that's something to just talk about and maybe we push that back a little bit and that's okay. And then of course specific goals. So our top three exercises to initiate post-part or impact in that time is going to be heel drops. So that's where you'll go up onto your toes and drop your heels down. Alternating hops is just going to be alternating side to side. You can do that without a jump rope or with a jump rope. Doing it with a jump rope is actually very difficult. It takes a lot of coordination. And then small hops. And that is going to just be small hops with two feet. Something to keep in mind in here are breastfeeding moms that can be very uncomfortable. So just talking to them about wearing a very supportive bra when they come to that visit. As always, we are going to ask about symptoms during your progressions into impact. So the symptoms are going to be leakage, pressure, pain, and then also bleeding. So in that early trimester we want to just keep an eye on bleeding. It is normal to have an uptick in bleeding, but we want it to not be like that they're passing clots after they start upping their intensity. Keeping the conversation positive even if they're hitting symptoms early and we're regressing. All we're doing is we're meeting them where they are and understanding that progressive overload is going to happen. And even talking to them about that is a really fun thing. So to recap, pressure doesn't have to be a bad word when talking about the pelvic floor. Understand other factors that may be influencing the pelvic floor, such as toileting, nutrition, type of birth. And essentially linking that to their symptom threshold. Utilizing small impact movements at first and start to initiate those progressive overload principles. So I'll leave you with that. Have a great Monday and we'll see you next time. 13:40 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT On Ice Daily Show. If you enjoyed this content, head on over to iTunes and leave us a review. And be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the Institute of Clinical Excellence. If you're interested in getting plugged into more ICE content on a weekly basis while earning CU's from home, check out our virtual ICE online mentorship program at ptonice.com. While you're there, sign up for our Hump Day Hustling newsletter for a free email every Wednesday morning with our top five research articles and social media posts that we think are worth reading. Head over to ptonice.com and scroll to the bottom of the page to sign up.    

Alan Fredendall // #FitnessAthleteFriday // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Fitness Athlete division leader Alan Fredendall discusses the efficacy of mobility programs to produce meaningful, function change in range of motion for patients & athletes. Take a listen to the episode or read the episode transcription below.  Article referenced If you're looking to learn from our Clinical Management of the Fitness Athlete division, check out our live physical therapy courses or our online physical therapy courses. Check out our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What's up everybody? Before we get rolling, I'd love to share a bit about Jane, the practice management software that we love and use here at ICE who are also our show sponsor. Jane knows that collecting new patient info, their consent and signatures can be a time consuming process, but with their automated forms, it does not have to be. With Jane, you can assign intake forms to specific treatments or practitioners, and Jane takes care of sending the correct form out to your patients. Save even more time by requesting a credit card on file through your intake forms with the help of Jane Payments, their integrated PCI compliant payment solution. Conveniently, Jane will actually prompt your patients to fill out their intake form 24 hours before their appointment if they have not done so already. If you're looking to streamline your intake form collection, head over to jane.app slash physical therapy, book a one-on-one demo with a member of the Jane team. They'll be able to show you the features I just mentioned and answer any other questions you may have. Don't forget, if you do sign up, use the code ICEPT1MO for a one month grace period applied to your new account. Thanks everybody, enjoy the show. 01:32 ALAN FREDENDALL Good morning everybody, welcome to the PT on ICE Daily Show. Happy Friday morning, I hope your day is off to a great start. My name is Alan, happy to be your host today. Currently have the pleasure of serving as the Chief Operating Officer here at ICE and lead faculty here in our fitness athlete division. It is Fitness Athlete Friday, we would argue it's the best start day of the week. We talk all things CrossFit, functional fitness, powerlifting, Olympic weightlifting, endurance athletes, runners, bikers, swimmers, everything related to the person who's regulationally active here on Fridays. Before we get started with today's topic, we're going to be tackling mobility. We're going to define mobility versus flexibility. We're going to discuss a recently published paper showing the effects of long term stretching on mobility changes and address concerns related to that paper. Before we get started, let's talk about a couple of announcements. It is the CrossFit Games individual and team competitions began yesterday. Age group and adaptive athletes began Tuesday. We have a day competition all week long. You can catch it on ESPN. You can catch it on YouTube. Our very own Kelly Benfee here from the fitness athlete division will be competing with her team. Plus 64 CrossFit Army end game in the team division. So you can check her out. She had a couple of events yesterday and she's got events every day the rest of the weekend. Speaking of fitness festivals, the I Got Your Six Fitness Festival will be June 21st and 23rd down in Charleston, South Carolina with our friends at Warrior WOD. We had the virtual competition this year, but next year it's going to be in person. So it's a ways away, but look forward to that calendar if you want to come down to Charleston and join us for a weekend of approachable fitness courses coming away from us here in the fitness athlete division. Your next chance to catch our live course will be September 9th and 10th. That will be in Bismarck, North Dakota with Mitch Babcock or the end of September, September 30th and October 1st. You can catch Zach Long out on the West Coast. He'll be in Newark, California. That's in the Bay Area. Our online courses, Clinical Management Fitness Athlete Essential Foundations, our eight week entry level online course begins again September 11th and Fitness Athlete Advanced Concepts, our level two online course begins September 17th. So mobility, let's talk about it. How much can we really move the needle? My goal today is to define mobility as it's often talked about in kind of common terms with athletes in the gym, patients in the clinic when they talk about mobility, defining mobility versus defining flexibility. Talking about a paper that was published a couple of weeks ago, looking at the effects of long term stretching specifically at ankle mobility, which is a joint we're always after to improve the range of motion within and then really how to approach mobility from a practical clinical standpoint. 2:01 EFINING MOBILITY VS. FLEXIBILITY So let's start first with defining mobility versus flexibility because they're often used interchangeably and that's not the correct way to use them. Then when we talk about flexibility, we're talking about the capacity of soft tissues of muscles, tendons, ligaments to be passively stretched, whether me as the therapist stretches you the patient or whether you stretch yourself using your own body, using stretch straps, things like that. The ability to passively stretch muscle tissue at a specific joint. Now mobility is different. Mobility is the ability of a joint to actively move through a range of motion. And of course, we're always chasing a full range of motion. So the ability, for example, of the need to advance across the toes in active closed chain dorsiflexion, the ability of the hip to externally rotate or flex sitting down into a squat, that would be an assessment of mobility, actively moving the joint through the range of motion. And you, the patient or athlete moving yourself through the range of motion, aka how much motion can you actually access? Because we see some folks have a big difference between their flexibility and their mobility. We may be able to passively move their ankle, passively move their leg into a normal or above average range of motion. But when that person stands up, they re-encounter gravity and they try to actively move that joint. We can sometimes see a big difference between mobility and flexibility. And that brings us to a really important point that a lot of what we see in marketing, in programs, in our own home programs for athletes and patients is that we say we're prescribing mobility. But really, what we are giving for the most part is flexibility, that a lot of passive stretching is what is given out, which can improve flexibility. Yes, but may not always result in any sort of functional change in mobility. We see a ton of programs all over social media, especially in the fitness athlete space, that are marketed at improving mobility. But when we actually look at the content of those programs, things like ROMWOD, things like GOWOD, things like whatever WOD, that we actually see a lot of passive stretching, a lot of flexibility. And so it's no wonder that folks come in and have been doing one of these programs for weeks, months, years, and have not seen any sort of beneficial improvements. In their mobility, their ability to actively move joints through a range of motion, because they have not been doing any sort of mobility work, they have been doing a lot of flexibility work. And we know those two things don't always translate. We don't always see a bunch of flexibility work translate into any sort of improvements in actual meaningful functional mobility. 7:32 THE RESEARCH ON STRETCHING So what does the research say? There's a bunch of research on passive stretching. There's a bunch of research on the benefits specifically of eccentric loading to improve range of motion, to improve active mobility. And we've always kind of wondered the question of what is the dose response relationship with flexibility training, with stretching? We have a great paper that came out last month in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research by Wernicke and colleagues. I'll post the link on Instagram and in the show notes on the podcast that sought to answer that question. So this was a study that sought to look at the effects on maximal voluntary muscular contraction, flexibility and muscle thickness of the ankle plantar flexors. Now, the experimental group had a lot of stretching prescribed. Specifically, they stretched six times a day for 10 minutes each session for six weeks. So about 42 total hours of stretching through the calf complex, an hour per day for 42 days. They perform the stretching with a night splint type orthotic of a boot that prepositions the foot into ankle dorsiflexion with the addition of a strap assist to pull their ankle into additional dorsiflexion if able. So essentially stretching the gastric complex 10 minutes, six times a day for six weeks. Now, what did the results show? The results did show an improvement in range of motion of when they remeasured ankle dorsiflexion. There were improvements that reached statistical significance. But really, when we look at the results, when we look at the actual data itself and not the summary of data in the discussion, we look at the raw data. What do we think about the results? We think that the functional improvement here is probably questionable. Then we actually look at the ranges of motion increases experienced by these subjects that most folks experience the change of about 0.25 to 0.5 centimeters or about one tenth to two tenths of an inch of an improvement in ankle dorsiflexion. Now, when we measure functional ankle dorsiflexion in the clinic, we use the closed chain half kneeling knee to wall task to measure the ability of the knee to advance over the toes with a planted heel. We show this assessment in our online essential foundations course, and we show this in our live seminar as well. And what we'd like to see there is that an athlete with the heel flat can advance their knee over their toes about four inches. That ideally they would contact the wall. We know if they can contact the wall, they have about four inches of motion there or possibly more. But that is enough motion, for example, to be able to advance the knees over the toes and sit down into a nice full depth squat. And so when we look at changes of 0.1 inches in a test where we're looking to see four full inches of range of motion, we realize that's not really that much of a functional improvement of yes, the results did reach statistical significance. But the practical application here is very, very, very minimal of that person. If we improve their ankle dorsiflexion and it was, for example, zero inches, somebody like me, somebody with a very stiff ankle, particularly my right ankle that has about zero inches of closed chain dorsiflexion. What good really is 0.1 to 0.2 inches of closed chain dorsiflexion improvement? The answer is not. It's not right. It's not a functional improvement. It's not a meaningful improvement. Yes, it was a statistically significant improvement, but in real life, it would not help that person move any better. It would not improve that person's mobility, even though their flexibility, yes, has technically changed. So we need to be mindful of how to actually interpret results of studies like this. We also need to now talk about what is the practical application of a study like this to practice, because this study came out and a lot of social media posts were made, a lot of podcasts were made that said, look, you're just not stretching enough. If you stretch an hour a day for six weeks, you can see an improvement in joint range of motion. And yes, again, while true, not functional. 10:14 APPLYING RESEARCH TO PRACTICE We also have to step back and really analyze the methodology of this paper and also analyze things like the inclusion and exclusion criteria of this paper. We're probably unlikely to find an actual real person, a patient or athlete who's going to do six hours a week, an hour per day, seven days a week for many, many weeks of flexibility training, essentially, right? We hear time is the biggest barrier to exercise. We hear time is the biggest barrier to home exercise program compliance. So it doesn't really make sense that if we can't get somebody to perform a 12 minute remom for the home exercise program, what's the likelihood that they're going to do an hour a day of home exercise program on top of maybe also trying to exercise an hour or more per day? The answer is unlikely. Right. We know that if we if we dose that out to somebody, there are very few patients who are going to come back and say, yep, I did. I did six sessions a day, 10 minutes per session, and I did it every day, seven days a week, just like you prescribed, doctor. That's a very unlikely result. So we need to be mindful of that when we're talking about applying this to real actual people. We also really need to dig into the inclusion criteria and look at the baseline assessments in a study like this, because this study would portray that some of these folks were stiff and saw improvements. Some of these folks had OK mobility and saw improvements. But really, when we look at the baseline assessments, the quote unquote stiffest person in the study still had three point four inches of closed chain dorsal flexion, right? More than enough ankle mobility to be able to squat to depth, assuming nothing was wrong mobility wise in that person's hip or knee. That person would have all the dorsal flexion needed to be able to, for example, functionally squat to depth. So we have to ask ourselves, is this actually representative of the populations that we treat? Is it representative of somebody who might come to us and say they need help with their mobility? What's the likelihood that they're actually going to do an hour a day of this type of training? And also, this is not the person that's going to present in our clinic, right? Of the person who can close chain dorsal flex at least three point four inches. You're not even going to consider that their ankle is stiff and maybe even prescribe some mobility stuff for their ankle to them, because they already possess all the range of motion needed to squat. On the high end in these subjects, they were beyond three point four inches, right? There were people with four, five, six, some folks close to seven inches of closed chain dorsal flexion. Way above average mobility. And so we need to recognize and ask the question of why are we studying the effects of flexibility and mobility on people who already have adequate, above average, perfect or excellent mobility, right? We see this a lot in medical research of we study the effects of, for example, resistance training on bone loading in older adults, and we exclude people with osteoporosis and osteopenia and folks who have any sort of issue that might throw an extra variable into the study. And what we find ourselves is studying interventions on people who don't need the intervention, right? And this study is exactly that case of we are studying the effects of flexibility training on the mobility of people who don't need any help with their flexibility or mobility. So again, can we generalize studies like this to the general population? Probably not. And for a lot of reasons, the ones we've already discussed here. And what we need to realize when we look at this data and look at a big picture is when we look at the results of studies like this, when we look at all the data aggregated, yes, but also unaggregated on those data tables, what are we looking at? That we tend to find that folks fall into buckets, that we can classify them. We know that, for example, with low back pain, we can find people who are flexion intolerant, extension intolerant, shear intolerant. We know they may or may not respond to directional preference type exercises, but people tend to fall in classification buckets based on what's going on. And we need to recognize that mobility is no different. Even looking at this study, looking at the baseline measurements of folks, we have folks who appear to have great mobility, who improved with intervention. We have folks who have great mobility, who did not improve with interventions. We had folks with poor mobility, who improved with intervention. And then we had the most unfortunate group of all, folks with poor mobility, who did not seem to improve with intervention. So we need to recognize that the person we're working with in the clinic, in the gym, probably fits into one of those buckets. If they are somebody who is interested in working on the mobility, even if we may not need it, right? We have that person who can hinge all the way to the floor with a perfectly flat back and locked out knees and touch their palms to the floor. A very bendy, flexible individual who is asking you for help on their mobility, right? That person does not need mobility help. They do not need flexibility help. But yet they are maybe seeking some extra mobility programming. We have folks with poor mobility, who need mobility training, who we know will not work on it anyways, especially an hour a day. So we see that our patients and athletes fall into these buckets, and we need to recognize which bucket they may fall into. We may not know early on how they're going to respond to interventions, especially if they haven't tried anything previously, but we'll know very quickly across the plan of care of their physical therapy if they're going to be somebody who responds to interventions like these. So what do we actually do with that person in front of us? Well, I think what we don't do enough is ask people a few simple questions of I see that you have some mobility things you could work on. How much time do you actually have for this? I don't think we ask that question enough. I think we give people what we want to see them do, what we hope they will do, and then we're often disappointed when they don't do it because we haven't asked first of all how much time they're willing to dedicate to it. I appreciate over the years how I've started to ask this question, and people have been very honest of I'm never going to do this at home. I'm only going to do this when I come here to physical therapy. Well, I appreciate that honesty, right? Because I'm not going to waste my time writing out a really detailed program that you're not going to do. So I think starting with that, excuse me, that question is very, very important. And then also recognizing and being really, really thorough and methodical in your reassessments along the way so you know if this person appears to be somebody who's going to respond to mobility type interventions. This study in particular has a lot of issues with the methodology, only including people who already possess a lot of nice functional mobility. It did a lot of long-term passive stretching, and we also need to recognize that primarily due to the way the intervention was done in this study, they primarily stretched the gastroc but assessed mobility and range of motion by the closed chain dorsiflexion test, which really looks at soleus muscle flexibility more so than gastroc. So we're stretching the gastroc, but assessing the ability of the knee to advance over the toes in a kneeling position, which is really looking at the soleus muscle complex. So we need to recognize the limitations of this study, and in our own practice of actually making sure we're giving the right mobility to the right person based on the deficits that we're finding in their assessment. We hear often, what are some great shoulder stretches? Well, it depends on what is limiting your shoulder mobility. If I give you a bunch of lat stretches and you seem to be really limited in external rotation because of maybe something going on in your subscap or your internal rotators not related to your lat, if you pass all of the screens we see for the lat, then giving you a bunch of lat stretching, a bunch of shoulder stretching, it's really not going to benefit and improve the mobility we need to work on. So we need to be sure we're working in the right area and addressing the right area with our exercises as well. So mobility, how much can we move the needle? Well, it really depends. It seems to be maybe a genetic component. It seems to be a combination of how well people respond to this type of training, and we also need to recognize that it appears to take a lot of time, possibly more time than the patient or athlete in front of us actually has. So understand the difference between flexibility and mobility. Flexibility, the ability for us to stretch muscles passively or a patient or athlete to stretch themselves passively versus mobility, the ability of the person to actively move their joints through a range of motion under gravity, functional movements, things like a squat, a lot of close chain type movements. We have research that looks at long-term stretching, but we know the quality of the research is not that great and the practical application of the research itself is not that great. Yes, we can reference the study and say if you're willing to stretch six hours a week, you might see changes in your ankle mobility, but again, we don't know that for sure. In practice, we know that our athletes and patients tend to fall in buckets. We need to be able to recognize those folks where they lie in our assessment. And again, always ask the question of how much do you really want to work on this? How much time do you really have to work on this? Somebody who says I have an extra hour a day before bed at night. Okay, that's a person who maybe could try out an hour of flexibility training before bed. Whether you give them a program, whether they sign up for something like ROM WOD, GO WOD, Mobility WOD, whatever WOD, Stretch WOD, the millions of programs out there. Or somebody who goes I'm not going to do this at all. I know myself, I'm not going to do this at night before bed. I'm not going to do it in the morning. I'm not going to do it before I work out and I'm not going to do it after I work out. Okay, that is a person that we probably should not spend our time on trying to give a bunch of mobility homework already knowing that they're pretty intentional and honest that they're not going to do it. So mobility, can we move the needle? Maybe. Jury's still out. We still need to see more research, of course, more impactful research, more functional research, and more practical research. Research that actually looks at what sort of changes can we expect to make in maybe 12 to 15 minutes a day? The range of time that we're probably prescribing to most of our patients and athletes. So I hope this was helpful. I hope you have a fantastic Friday. Hope you have a great weekend. If you're going to be at a live course, enjoy yourself. Enjoy the CrossFit Games. Watch Kelly Benfee and Ruth Huron. Have a great Friday. Have a great weekend. Bye everybody. 20:32 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on Ice Daily Show. If you enjoyed this content, head on over to iTunes and leave us a review and be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the Institute of Clinical Excellence. If you're interested in getting plugged into more ICE content on a weekly basis while earning CU's from home, check out our virtual ICE online mentorship program at ptonice.com. While you're there, sign up for our hump day hustling newsletter for a free email every Wednesday morning with our top five research articles and social media posts that we think are worth reading. Head over to ptonice.com and scroll to the bottom of the page to sign up. You

Dr. Jeff Moore // #LeadershipThursday // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, ICE CEO Jeff Moore emphasizes the importance of considering individual circumstances and not allowing blanket statements to hinder progress. While the general principle of "do less better" is often advocated for efficiency and clarity, Jeff acknowledges that there are exceptions to this approach. Jeff encourages listeners to think about situations where a person may come into the clinic with psychological barriers or feeling overwhelmed. In these cases, Jeffg suggests that overwhelming the individual with multiple interventions or exercises may actually be beneficial. By providing a variety of options and allowing the person to choose one or two to focus on, it can help shift their psychology and get them on board with the treatment plan. Jeff also mentions that this concept applies not only to exercise but also to other aspects of healthcare, such as sleep hygiene and diet. Instead of overwhelming individuals with a long list of changes to make, it is more effective to start with one or two manageable changes. This approach makes it more approachable and minimizes barriers to compliance. Overall, the episode highlights the importance of considering individual circumstances and being flexible in treatment approaches. While the general principle of "do less better" is valuable, it is essential to recognize that there are times when overwhelming individuals with options or interventions can be beneficial in getting them on board and moving in the right direction. Take a listen to the podcast episode or read the full transcription below. If you're looking to learn more about courses designed to start your own practice, check out our Brick by Brick practice management course or our online physical therapy courses, check out our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 JEFF MOORE Alright team, what's up? Welcome to the PT on Ice Daily show. I am Dr. Jeff Moore, currently serving as the CEO of Ice and thrilled to be here on a Leadership Thursday. Always wonderful to have you on Instagram, on YouTube if you're live streaming or over on the podcast. Thank you so much for carving out a few minutes for us today. It is Thursday, it means it's Gut Check Thursday, and it is a doozy. So many of you are at the CrossFit Games, you're probably going to be throwing this workout down together. I know it comes from our friends at Mayhem, they're probably going to be doing it as well. But the workout is, and it would be simple if it was just the first part, it is a hundred for time at a relatively manageable weight. Okay, so we've got 75-55 on the bar. Many of you probably remember the 100 clean and jerks for time that we've done I think twice now. The problem is you also have an EMOM of 15 air squats, and that's going to make it a different kind of stimulus, and that includes starting at zero. The first thing you're going to do when the timer goes off or Gut Check Thursday is you're going to bang out 15 air squats, then you're going to grab your bar and start rocking your power snatches. You're going to keep doing this every minute, 15 air squats, as many power snatches as you can until you've accumulated 100 power snatches at 75 or 55 pounds. Can't wait to see some of the post commit, I already saw one this morning, somebody said their low back was on fire, I'm sure that's the case, I can't wait to try it. Probably going to knock that out here on Saturday afternoon. Alright, as far as upcoming courses go, I want to highlight, speaking of power snatches, I want to highlight our Fitness Athlete Live courses because the ones that are coming up, I see those courses swelling. So Mitch is going to be in Bismarck, and that is going to be on 9-9. So that's in four weeks, a little over four weeks. That class is already pushing 30 people, we're about at capacity, so if you want to jump into Bismarck, you're going to need to probably do that in the next week or so. Similar story for Newark, California, Zach is going to be down there on October 7th, and again, I'm seeing that course edge towards capacity, so if you want to jump in Fitness Athlete Live, you're going to want to make that move pretty quick. We do have Linwood, Virginia following that, so it goes Bismarck, 9-9, it goes Newark, 9-30, it goes Linwood, Virginia, 10-7. If you want to jump into one of those courses, try to make it happen in the next week or so to make sure you get your seat. Alright, it is Leadership Thursday, but this one's a little bit more clinical, but I do think that it really revolves around leading people, so I think it's appropriate for this day of the week. 02:56 "DO MORE, BETTER" I want to talk about doing it more, better sometimes. Now the obvious caveat we have to open with is the fact that we have preached do less better on this show, in this company, for the better part of a decade almost constantly, and there are good reasons for that because the majority of times, doing less better is what makes it work, is what makes for an efficient avail, is what allows you to know which intervention you did actually have the effect. If you're doing a million things with a small dosage, you have no clue what moved the needle. More importantly, your patient doesn't know, so they don't know what to focus on, they don't know what to attach their outcome to. If you're doing a ton of things, it gets messy, it lacks clarity, and it's very hard to get treatment effect. Additionally, it's very hard to give sufficient dose of anything if you're doing everything. Do less better is a hallmark statement and should generally be observed. The challenge I want to make for all of us, including myself this morning, is it always the case though? Is there sometimes, and there should be exceptions to all of this stuff, are there sometimes where overwhelm is exactly what the doctor ordered? Are there times we have to go big? Right now, what's very in vogue, and I generally like this, is things like don't do more than three exercises. There's actually a bit of research showing from a compliance perspective that statement makes sense. If you give somebody a whole laundry list of things to do, they're not going to do any of them. But it's not just exercise. We're hearing these comments around things like sleep hygiene. Don't try to make a bunch of changes, just make one. We hear it around diet. Don't change a ton of things, just start with one or two. I myself preach this all the time. Make it approachable, try to minimize barriers, just choose one or two. But I want us to pause for a second to make sure we don't just make this our default And think about when the opposite might make more sense. 06:30 MANAGING RELUCTANT PATIENTS I want us to think about that reluctant encounter. What I mean is that person who comes into your clinic and you can tell they are really suspect, they're suspicious about whether or not this is really going to work. And you know this person. This is not the person who gets rehab consistently. It's not the person who's already bought into this being the primary treatment choice. It's the person who's like, I don't know about this. My doctor said come so I'm here, but I just don't know about this. Think about that person who's really reluctant. For some people, for that person in particular, this might be the only time that they're going to be in this stage where they're even considering this route. It's not the route they've used in the past. They're really unsure about it, but they've heard some good things. They were told to be here. It's a small window of opportunity. You might only get one at bat with this patient. You can all picture this person. You've got him on your caseload right now. You can just feel what their energy is. I don't know about this. I don't think this is going to get the job done. You might only get one shot at this person. And I want to make a two-part argument about how we manage this individual, especially at that first encounter, which might be the only encounter if things go wrong. The absolute worst outcome with that person is nothing. The absolute worst outcome is no change because it's kind of what they think is going to happen. This is a waste of my time. This isn't going to work. Getting no change is the worst possible outcome. The second argument I'll make is that while I totally agree, especially this person, won't do a bunch of things for a long period of time, they will not do the long litany of exercises, they won't make a million changes, they won't do those things for a long time, but I think they will do it for four or five days. I think they will make a really aggressive change because they're wondering if their time is being well spent. They almost want to prove it wrong sometimes. Like, see, it didn't work. While I don't think a long list of massive lifestyle or exercise changes is sustainable for that person long term, I do think they'll do it for a few days, especially if we tell them, hey, listen, this is not sustainable for a long period of time. What we're trying to see is if we can move this needle. So let's figure it out once and for all and right out of the gates. What if we go this route where we tell them, you don't have to do this for a long time, we're going to put all the guns on early, we're going to see if anything changes. If nothing changes with a high dose, we can both agree that this isn't going to work. But if something does change, what we can then do is begin to look at what you've got on the board and we can tease that down to the things that were the most manageable for you to alter. And that's the stuff that we can ride out into the sunset. Right. Then we can pare down the program. What I'm saying is, should we be asking a ton upfront, prove that change will happen with the highest dose that they can tolerate and then refine and make it sustainable? Should we be telling them, I'm going to ask you never to continue this, but I want to know if we can make a difference and then we'll choose the things that were the easiest for you to stay with. And that's going to be our long term program. It's not for everyone. It's not even for most. 08:38 SWING FOR THE FENCES But on those people who are particularly doubtful that PT will work, I think we need to swing for the fences. And I'm bringing this episode to you because I've had numerous conversations recently with people who did the less better thing, right? Small changes that were easy for the patient that didn't do anything. Where the patient was like, I don't really think I felt a difference. That's fine. In someone who's committed to rehab being the solution, that is not fine. In someone who's testing you out to see whether or not they're wasting their time. On that second person, we need to identify them and say, look, they're only going to give us one chance. We don't need to make it sustainable. We need to make it noticeable. I want to say that one more time. In the highly speculative person, we don't need to make it sustainable. We can worry about sustainability later. We need to make it noticeable. We need to tell them what I'm about to ask is you're going to eliminate a bunch of stuff from your diet. You're going to change a bunch of things about your sleep environment. You are not going to have to maintain these long term. This is going to tell both of us if you're in the right spot. Once that person comes back and you've all had the person who's made really drastic diet changes, think about fasting or total sugar elimination. What do they come back and say? They say really drastic things like, my gosh, I feel less swollen all over my body. I had carpal tunnel as well and that feels better. I used to have headaches and now I don't. They tend to see things happen because they made such a drastic change to the ecosystem. In the unsure speculative patient, that is exactly what the doctor ordered because the number one goal with them is psychological. We've got to get them to believe, oh my gosh, this stuff can actually have an effect on my condition. Now the moment they realize that these are the things that I should be tweaking to make a change, now we alter that program to make it sustainable and do less better. 11:29 OVERCOMING PSYCHOLOGICAL BARRIERS But I am making a call to action on this episode that for the reluctant individual, for the person with the psychological barrier, doing more in the very short term to show them that what won't happen is nothing is the most important thing to get that initial piece of traction that allows you to then refine, pare down and make sustainable a program they now believe in. Give it some thought. Is there a place to go with overdoses, overwhelm, to shift psychology, to get that goal in mind and get that patient on board? I hope it makes sense. In general, I'm always going to believe in do less better but there are always exceptions and let's make sure that we're not letting a blanket statement prevent those people from moving in the right direction. Cheers everybody, PT on ICE.com, you know where the goods live. All of you at the CrossFit Games, good luck. Kelly Benfey, especially good luck. I hope the 64 Army crushes it this weekend. I will certainly be watching from right here. Cheers everybody, take care. 12:20 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on ICE Daily Show. If you enjoyed this content, head on over to iTunes and leave us a review and be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the Institute of Clinical Excellence. 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Dr. Julie Brauer // #GeriOnICE // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Modern Management of the Older Adult lead faculty Julie Brauer discusses the idea that passion alone is not sufficient for thriving in a career. She mentions that while it is possible to sustain a career solely based on passion, it is not sustainable in the long run. Julie shares personal experiences and acknowledges that many colleagues and friends have also encountered this issue. She emphasizes the importance of considering the entire ecosystem, including supportive management, colleagues with similar philosophies, and a network of supportive friends, family, and partners. Without this support system, Julie warns that burnout is likely to occur and that the initial passion will start to diminish. The episode emphasizes the need for a supportive ecosystem, where managers value and understand the contributions individuals bring to their work. Julie also mentions the importance of growth and opportunities for advancement, as well as being surrounded by like-minded individuals who share a fitness-forward approach. Take a listen to learn how to better serve this population of patients & athletes. If you're looking to learn more about live courses designed to better serve older adults in physical therapy or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What's up everybody? Welcome back to the PT on ICE Daily Show. Before we jump into today's episode, let's chat about Jane, our show sponsor. Jane makes the Daily Show possible and is the practice management software that so many folks here at ICE utilize. The team at Jane knows how important it is for your patients to get the care they need. And with this in mind, they've made it really easy and convenient for patients to book online. One tip that has worked well for a lot of practices is to make the booking button on your website prominent so patients can't miss it. Once clicked, they get redirected to a beautifully branded online booking site. And from there, the entire booking process only takes around two minutes. After booking an appointment, patients get access to a secure portal where they can conveniently manage their appointments and payment details, add themselves to a waitlist, opt in to text and email reminders, and fill out their intake form. If you all are curious to learn more about online booking with Jane, head over to jane.app slash physical therapy. Book their one-on-one demo with a member of their team. And if you're ready to get started, make sure to use the code ICEPT1MO. When you sign up, that gives you a one-month grace period that gets applied to your new account. Thanks, everybody. Enjoy today's show. 01:43 JULIE BRAUER Good morning, crew. Welcome to the Geri on ICE segment of the PT on ICE Daily Show. I'm brought to you by the Institute of Clinical Excellence. My name is Julie. I am a member of the older adult division. Excited to talk to you all this morning about five things I've changed my mind about in Jerry PT over the past, I think it's like eight-ish years now of my career. So I actually have a list of like eight or nine. It keeps growing as I keep thinking about things, but I'm going to try and keep it to around five. And so my hope is that over the past eight years of all the mistakes I've made and the paths I went down and the things I've learned, I'm hoping that someone out there listening today, if I can inspire and encourage you to think a little bit differently, to do a little bit differently, if I can save you a little bit of heartache that I've experienced, then I will call this a 100% success. Okay, so these aren't necessarily in order of importance except this first one. So number one of five things that changed my mind about in Jerry rehab, changing settings will fix your burnout. Changing settings will fix your burnout. It will not. If you are in a situation where you feel really unhappy, you feel burnt out with the job that you currently have and the setting that you currently are in, please know that the grass is not always green around the other side. I promise it's not. 03:08 "CHANGING SETTINGS WON'T FIX BURNOUT" It's not necessarily that changing settings is going to fix your burnout. Identifying why you are burned out and doing something about the root of the problem is going to fix your burnout. So I'm not going to get into this too, too deeply because I've done an entire podcast specifically talking about burnout and those of you who are thinking home health will fix that. So if you are interested in that specific podcast, send me a message and I will send you the link. But as an overview, I just want you all to know that you have to identify why first before you jump ship. So the why could be a multitude of different things. Is it truly that you are not passionate about an athletic population and you actually are passionate about a more acute, medically complex population of older adults? Is it that you really want flexibility in your schedule and you can't stand the back to back, the back to back schedule of inpatient rehab? You have to be able to verbalize and write these things down about why you are so burned out in your job. 04:51 BURNOUT IN DIFFERENT THERAPY SETTINGS I spent many years starting out in acute care, getting burned out, thinking that I was going to love inpatient rehab. I was convinced I'm going to have more time with my patients. I'm going to be able to follow them. I'm going to be able to do higher level therapy with them. It's going to be so much better. I went into inpatient rehab. I absolutely hated it. And then I was like, all right, home health, total flexibility. I'm going to be able to see less patients a day. That's definitely going to be the setting for me. Nope, that wasn't it either. What I was doing is thinking that changing up setting was just what I needed to do. And in reality, for me, I came to the conclusion that full time clinical care is what was burning me out. It did not matter what the setting was. And I wish that I would have realized that very, very early on in this process. Now, I learned a lot and I'm really happy that I have experience in all of these settings. However, I could have been much further along in really dialing in what I want to spend my time and effort towards. If I would have thought of that earlier. So those of you that are really burned out, you're thinking about jumping ship. Don't do it. Start to really evaluate those things. Okay, next, you can give a really high quality session and a really efficient session without timing yourself. This is simple. No, you can't know. You absolutely cannot give a really high quality session that is also efficient unless you have yourself on a clock. For the entire session and truly throughout your entire day of doing your job. I think it's really hard because we go from PT school where all we have to do in a day is study, right? Like if our eyes are open, we are like, well, I have to learn the brachial plexus today. And that's all I have to do. So all I'm going to do is sit here for hours upon hours upon hours and study and memorize things from a book. And then we get into clinical and then we get into the real world where we have this thing called productivity. We have to meet while we are also trying to maintain our sanity. And all of a sudden, it is very overwhelming to try and bring quality at the same time as being efficient. So my call to action to you all is put a clock on yourself for your entire day. When you are with your patients, when you are not with your patients, it will change your life. I promise you when I started doing this in home health and you start this just like you start anything, like if you are starting to train for a race, for example, and you know you have to hit certain macros, you need to just start by tracking. What do you normally eat? How many calories are you actually bringing in? So you don't change anything at first. You just track. So you time yourself all of your breaks, your bathroom breaks, your snack breaks, your chatting with colleague breaks, the amount of time it takes you if you are in home health to drive to patient to patient, the amount of time that you are sitting in acute care at the desk and documenting. You time everything. In addition to how long you are actually spending with your patient and how long you are actually doing those subtitles of your session like education or neuromuscular read or gate training, whatever it is, you time everything. You will realize all of your inefficiencies. You will realize, wow, my hourly rate is actually crap. So when I timed myself when I was in home health, I timed everything. And I realized that if I was spending 60 minutes with the patient and I was actually hustling to get everything else done, calling doctors, etc, etc. I was making $40 an hour. Not ideal. Once I started timing myself and figuring out where I could cut, I went from $40 an hour to over $60 an hour. I have an entire podcast just on how to improve efficiency in home health. Again, if you were interested in that, message me and I'll send you the link. So again, my call to action for you all is use your phone. Your lap timer on your stopwatch is really helpful. Wear your Apple watch time every single thing. Start there, track it for a week, and then start chipping away at where you can cut places where you're really inefficient. Not only will you be able to give time back to yourself, which is what we want at the end of the day because taking care of humans all day is exhausting, but your patient sessions, you will get them so much more fit in so much less time. That's a win-win. So start timing yourself. 10:53 PT's DON'T NEED TO TAKE PATIENTS TO THE BATHROOM All right, next. PTs don't need to take patients to the bathroom. PTs don't need to take patients to the bathroom. That is an OT's job. That is a nurse's job. That is a tech's job. Man, this is one thing that I may be like the most sorry about. What I feel so guilty about for years in my career is that I'm with the patients and I'm wrapping things up, right? I know that I want to get out that door so I can get to my next patient. I'm done. I've done my PT thing and they ask me to take them to the bathroom. It's that moment you're like, I really need to get out this door. And what would I say many times? You know what? OT is coming to see you later this afternoon. They will take you to the bathroom and work on toileting. Then for right now, I'm going to press that button and your nurse is going to come and take you to the bathroom. So many of you have been there. I know you are. I know you've done this. But guys, what do we know happens or not happens? We press that button. Nobody comes. Our patient is sitting there uncomfortable. They may not actually get to the bathroom for a very, very long time. What we know from the literature why we have to change our mind about this and start doing this differently is that many falls in acute care. A very high percentage of them happen in the bathroom. This is avoidable because what is happening? Our patients ring the bell. Nobody comes. And then they have the choice of urinating on themselves or continuing to, and sitting there and waiting or breaking the rules and trying to rush to the bathroom where maybe they're on pain meds, their balance is off, they slip, et cetera, et cetera. We need to realize that is our job. We are not above any freaking job when we are with those patients in acute care. They need their butt wiped. We wipe their freaking butt. That is our job. It is patient care. We are all in this together to get that patient out of this DM hospital and back to their life wiping their butt, taking it in the bathroom. That's included. The very basics of giving this dignity back to this human. It is not a particular person's job. And think about it, even from a self-serving perspective, how much information you learn from taking a patient to the bathroom. You are watching them transfer. It gives them motivation to get out of bed versus like, let's get out of bed and go on a walk and lift these weights, right? You get to see how their ambulatory capacity, right? You get to see their balance. You get to see their problem solving, their stand pivot, how they have e-central control getting down to that toilet. Are they able to problem solve how to sequence those steps? Can they grab the toilet paper? Do they know how to use it? You get so much valuable information. And maybe watching someone toilet and saying, I know that looks off. It seems like they don't know how to sequence this, but I don't know the language to put to it. And I don't, this isn't really something that I understand how to treat, right? Yes, your OT partners are going to be able to take that baton that you hand them after you give them an information. And they're going to be able to do a much better job in that specific task, right? It's collaboration. We need to be setting our patients up for success. Never, ever, ever, ever from today forward, please PTAs ever tell your patient, that is someone else's job, someone else's job. I'll go tell the nurse when I leave. It is your job. You should start planning for this in your sessions. Just give some time before you absolutely have to get out that door. Give five, six minutes to a lot for this patient needing to use the bathroom. It is your job. We are part of a team and you can prevent something drastic happening like falls or someone losing their dignity by literally having to urinate on themselves. 18:21 ALTERNATIVE HOME EXERCISE OPTIONS Next, weights are the best pieces of equipment to initiate loading with older adults. Weights are the best pieces of equipment to initiate loading with older adults. Look, I love being able to get my older adults, especially those who are pretty medically complex and deconditioned, lifting weights, right? All of you all, this ice crew, your fitness forward, you are incredibly enthusiastic about this. However, if we focus too much on that, I think we can be actually increasing the barrier to loading versus decreasing it, which is our job. We need to realize that the best equipment older adults are using to introduce loading are not necessarily weights. The best equipment are the objects, the animals, the people, the boxes, whatever the odd things are that are in someone's life, an older adult's life, that they will lift, push, carry, pull, hinge. Those are the best pieces of equipment to introduce loading for an older adult. That may not be a weight ever, ever. If it is, amazing. I love it. Bonus points. The best equipment is the one that our patient is actually going to use. I love how enthusiastic we are. And if we can get our older adults lifting weights, wonderful. But ask yourself, like, is this sustainable? Is this only going to be something that they do with me? What am I doing to allow sustainability and longevity of loading with this older adult that they will continue to do after I am no longer caring for them? When our plan of care is over, have I decreased the entry point to loading so much that they have a technique that they can use on their own? Are they going to buy those weights off of Amazon that you've told them? Are they going to have a family member go and buy the dumbbells from Walmart? If they're not, then you better have another option. You better have something that they can use around their home that's less intimidating, that's cheaper, whatever it is. And not over here. Try to introduce the weights, but also give them something that's incredibly, incredibly convenient, right? Where you're decreasing the barrier of making the right choice, which is introducing loading, and we need to make it convenient. So I would argue that while I would bring weights in my backpack, walking around the hospital, I will bring weights in my trunk when I go to see my patients in home health. A resistance band, not a TheraBand, a rogue resistance band, many times was the best piece of equipment to introduce loading to an older adult. It's not intimidating. It's versatile. Not only can you use it to introduce loading and resistance, but I love to use those resistance bands for balance reactions. You can do a lot of perturbations with them. You can put them on the floor and use them as like an agility ladder. They are incredibly versatile. They're light. They're easy to carry around with you. Many older adults are not intimidated by them. Many times, a resistance band is the way to go. Many patients, I am not getting weights into their homes for these really sick folks in home health. It's just not going to happen. They're not going to make it there. So you need to make sure that you have something that is going to be practical for them and it's going to be sustainable. For me, it has been a resistance band. Give that some thought. Maybe go onto Amazon today when you're ordering your other stuff and getting your cart ready for Prime. Add a rogue or some other brand. It doesn't have to be rogue, but a actual resistance band to your cart. Okay. Last one here before we go. 23:53 SUPPORTIVE ECOSYSTEMS IN YOUR CAREER Last one, most unpopular opinion. You can thrive in your career on passion alone. You can thrive in your career on passion alone. I don't think this is true. I have experienced, and I know many of you have experienced this, many of my dear friends and colleagues have experienced this, that you can survive in your career on passion alone, but it's not sustainable. You have to think of your entire ecosystem. If the only thing that is able to get you up and get you out of bed and get you going to your clinic, your hospital, your patient's home is that you love treating older adults. You love the relationships you build. You were so called to better serve this population. If that's it, if you do not have supportive management, if you do not have colleagues that think in the same way that you do and share your same philosophy, if you don't have supportive friends, family, partners, you are going to really start to burn out. That passion is going, that fire is going to start to diminish. It may not go out completely, but damn, it's going to be a lot harder to keep that going. It is absolutely critical that you are in a supportive ecosystem, that your managers value you. They understand the value that you're bringing. They offer you opportunities to grow and advance and to really stretch your skills that you are surrounded by other people who feel the same way, who want to charge forward with a fitness forward approach. You need to have friends and family and people that you're maintaining your relationships with, and they need to be supportive of what you're going after. You need to create that ecosystem. When you don't have that, I think so many, and I believe this for a long time, as much as I care about this mission, this thing, this job, older adults, as much as I care about it, it will be tempered. That fire will not burn as bright if we do not have the support from all those different parts of our ecosystem. It just gets to a point where maybe you're just running on fumes. Start to think about who your ecosystem is within your job, your managers, your colleagues. Do you have growth? Are you challenged? Are you very passionately connected to your team, to the mission, and about your personal relationships? How are they supporting you? How many individuals have you built up around you that are there to support you? Really start thinking about that. Okay, that's it. I think that was five. Just to review, five things I've changed, or maybe six, five things I've changed my mind about in Jerry Rehab. Changing settings will fix your burnout. You can be efficient and give a high quality session without timing yourself. PTs don't need to take patients to the bathroom. Weights are the best pieces of equipment to use to introduce loading to older adults. You can thrive in your career on passion alone. Five things I've had a massive, massive thought switch as I've gone through my career. Hopefully you all found some of those things to be really helpful. It gave you some things to think about. Please, if any of that spoke to you, do one thing today to change how you think or change what you do. To close this out, I will let you guys know what we have coming up in the older adult division. We have tons of courses. We are going to be in Lexington next weekend. That's our MMOA summit. The entire crew is going to be there. We get to check out Stronger Life with Jeff and Dustin. They're spot there. We absolutely can't wait. We are in Texas, Minnesota, and California for the rest of August. Then MMOA Central Foundations starts next Wednesday. One week from today, our online cohort starts. That cohort is filling up rather quickly. We took a little bit of a break in June and July. If you're interested in that course, I would not wait. I would get your ticket ASAP. All right, guys. Have a wonderful rest of your Wednesday. 25:49 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on Ice Daily Show. 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Dr. Lindsey Hughey // #ClinicalTuesday // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Extremity Division Leader Lindsey Hughey discusses the significance of addressing the underlying ecosystem challenge to achieve better outcomes for patients. She specifically highlights the prevalence of poor diet and obesity as contributing factors to this challenge. Lindsey points out that there is evidence suggesting a link between these factors and knee pain, as overweight and obesity are often observed in individuals experiencing knee pain. Lindsey emphasizes that focusing solely on physical therapy interventions, such as knee range of motion and strength exercises, is insufficient. Instead, she argues that healthcare professionals, including physical therapists, need to consider the broader ecosystem in which patients exist. This includes addressing mindset, mindfulness, exercise, diet, and sleep. To guide patients along this path, Lindsey  suggests that physical therapists can play a role by providing support and education. She compares physical therapists to shepherds, who can assist patients in navigating and making positive changes in their overall lifestyle. By addressing the underlying ecosystem challenge, Lindsey believes that better outcomes can be achieved for patients. Take a listen or check out the episode transcription below. If you're looking to learn more about our Extremity Management course or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 LINDSEY HUGHEY Good morning, PT on Ice Daily Show. How's it going? Welcome to Clinical Tuesday. I'm Dr. Lindsay Hughey coming to you live from Edgerton, Wisconsin. So good to see you all today. I am going to chat with you about playing offensive medicine in our folks with degenerative meniscal injury. Before I dive in to what that looks like, I'd love to share with you a little bit about courses Mark and I have coming up in extremity management. So we have a couple options in August and actually one of them, well we did have a couple options, we only have one now because all the tickets in Fremont, Nebraska August 19th and 20th are actually sold out. So our last ticket went I think yesterday. So the only option in August to check us out and learn all things best dosage and tendinopathy care of the upper and lower quarter is Rochester Hills. So August 12th and 13th I will be teaching there and so join me if you can. And then in September Mark has two options for you on September 9th and 10th out of Amarillo, Texas and then September 16th, 17th out of Ohio. So Cincinnati will be coming your way. And then some fall and winter courses but again opportunities are dwindling. We hope if we don't see you this summer to see you in the fall or winter. 01:48 STOP THE SCOPE But let's chat about how do we play offense for degenerative meniscal injury because today is really a call, another call to stop the scope. I've hopped on here before over a year ago, I'm kind of charging us with those folks that have that gradual onset of symptoms of pain in their knee, maybe a little bit of swelling but have no specific injury or twisting event that happened that's more related to a degenerative process or like or I would like to refer to as a living life process. They don't need arthroscopic meniscectomy. And so we had more literature just come out this year to really bolster that argument of why physical therapy is really the number one choice, exercise medicine is the way to go. But I would like to first highlight that new literature that came out in January of why it's not appropriate to have surgery for these folks and then to also take a moment to reflect on why are we still seeing the arthroscopic partial meniscectomies being done if we keep finding literature that says let's not do this. And then also reflect on how can we do better as a profession to stop this continued over medicalization. So I first just want to briefly review in January 2023 we had a systematic review and meta-analysis come out from the Osteoarthritis and Cartilage Journal and we actually did share that on hump day hustling a while back. But this systematic review and meta-analysis again let us know that degenerative meniscal injury, the scope is not the way. And so let me unpack a little bit about this study because it was pretty inclusive this systematic review and meta-analysis. They looked at tons of RCTs so that the pool data of all patients was 605 patients. The study populations in each of the RCTs ranged somewhere between 44 and 319 so decent size overall in each study. The mean age of these folks was about 55 with the standard deviation of 7.5 so kind of that middle age and then majority were female about 52.4 percent. So you also see an even distribution almost of males and females in this study and then mean BMI was 26.5 standard deviation 3.7 you know below or above that. And what they investigated was the effectiveness of using arthroscopic partial manisectomy and they compared that via non-surgical so either sham which was exercise treatment or some form of exercise program so every RCT they looked at had to have the comparator of exercise. And degenerative meniscal findings were confirmed on MRI in all of the studies. The primary outcomes were knee pain, overall knee function, and then health-related quality of life and they looked at outcomes for up to two years so we see again a long-term follow-up in these RCTs this collection of RCTs that they looked at. And so the conclusions January 2023 so we're you know over six months out over half a year through and the conclusion was for insidious onset of knee pain so non-traumatic with MRI confirming degenerative meniscal tear in adults arthroscopic partial manisectomy is not the answer. 05:15 "NO CLINICALLY RELEVANT EFFECTS OF PARTIAL ARTHOSCOPIC MENISECTOMY" Literally if I'm going to quote verbatim no clinically relevant effect of arthroscopic partial meniscectomy was detected for overall knee function health-related quality of life or mental health. They did find one small marginal difference in pain levels a couple points but there was no evidence that there was superiority in having surgery. In fact they even took a look to see are there subgroups of patients right that might have a greater benefit from APM that were just not recognizing and when they looked and compared again the non-surgical to sham exercise therapy they did not see a subgroup that existed. They made other conclusions to say most degenerative meniscal tears are going to improve over time without the need for that arthroscopic partial menisectomy. Other findings that I think are really important to point out before we kind of reflect on why if we have this evidence do we keep seeing surgeries being done is that when they looked at the individuals in the studies those with BMI over 30 so obese individuals compared to the healthy BMIs less than 25 they had a 4.7 fold increased risk of progressing to knee osteoarthritis whether they had surgery or not. It was really a call to action when they found this in this pool data of all these folks is that body weight reduction strategies need to be on board for pain and function effects. 07:28 "...NO SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE OVER NON-SURGICAL TREATMENT" So just to send it home about this study and what they said one of the final things that they wrote in their conclusion was and I'm going to read it verbatim we recommend that physicians minimize the use of arthroscopic partial mastectomy to treat patients with degenerative meniscal tears because there is no significant advantage over non-surgical treatment. This is the osteoarthritis journal right this is a pretty high tier journal osteoarthritis and cartilage journal making this statement. So why are we still seeing a ton of them? Why does this keep happening where we see patients I have one of my caseload right now right why is this happening? Well we're obviously not reading the literature as a health care team and as physicians right because patients still think this is a primary defense. I'd love to reflect on that even 10 years ago in 2013 we had a study from Yim et al where they compared meniscectomy versus non-operative strength care and this was in 103 patients them and the same exact message was there there are no significant difference between arthroscopic meniscectomy and non-operative management with strengthening exercises again when we look at knee pain function and satisfaction at the two-year mark. So even 10 years ago we had this evidence but yet it's not translating to practice that's a lot of surgeries a lot of over-medicalization so I we need to really step it up here in our not only in ingesting this information but advocating that this is not a new message. In this article they point out that in 2017 so the systematic review and meta-analysis that we just reviewed that in 2017 an expert panel that regarding the degenerative meniscal injury said that the use of arthroscopic partial meniscectomy in nearly all patients with degenerative knee disease that several guidelines do not support this procedure. They've literally made clear statements against it again yet we're still seeing it so we can do better here and that probably takes some building relationships with surgeons right and chatting with them and letting them know like PT first get them to us right but really advocating that message in the community because we know that's not always going to work talking to the health care team. I think this message needs to be broadcasted widely more widely than it is currently. The other reason I think we keep seeing it besides like poor translation from what we're reading to the general public is there's this image mismatch so we see this a lot in the extremities and if you've been to our extremity of course you know we have a lot of conversations around this in different areas of the body shoulder hip knee but you see degeneration on the MRI right but there is no clear link that that's the cause of their pain symptoms it's an incidental finding but yet patients think oh you know my knee is really banged up right they leave hearing this message of harm rather than hearing you know I'm glad this is a normal age-related change so there's the image is linked inaccurately to pain and so again another opportunity to educate in this space and then the other reason I think that we keep seeing a ton of them being done regardless of what we know in the literature regardless of what we know that imaging doesn't tell the whole story is that there's this message put out about the fear of progression right if you do not get this meniscectomy you will go on to having knee OA or early onset knee OA which will lead to a knee replacement. 11:12 "IT'S DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD" Let's stop allowing this message to be passed on it is harmful right it's doing more harmful than good and we don't actually know that right any fear-based messaging is not the way and so that message that is a thought virus and if our patients are coming into us or even like people in our community right our family or friends um we have to really um call BS on that right because we don't know that for sure and we're not seeing that link so finally kind of the background of the that we just had in January 2023 tell us that having surgery is not the way we've kind of reflected on why do we keep seeing this so what do we actually finally do about it well promote PT first faster right when someone's knee is starting to ache right stop ignoring it get into PT stop going to a medical provider even primary care orthopedic first come to physical therapy first so we can help you um with your hip and your knee pain and your um any associated muscle weakness or swelling so that we can get these healthy messages into our folks and into the community these folks get lost in the system letting them know that it is very common what they're experiencing and a plan for success that's our job that's our wheelhouse we need to manage expectation too so folks right some of our patients are going to want to do the surgery anyway right despite any of the things we can tell them about the evidence right they're set on it their belief and expectation it's going to help well i need you to manage those expectations as well because surgery after surgery i don't know about you all but all the ones i see doesn't actually take away their pain and swelling in fact the surgeons have actually told my patients you can expect swelling for up to six months which is literally the reason they came in there they want to feel better and they want the swelling to go away well guess what at least for six months it's not going to happen folks so letting them know that in a kinder less passionate way probably so while these folks might return to work or sport they're going to have ongoing symptoms and that's swelling so letting them know that that even if they opt for that it's still going to be a challenge they're still going to need pt so i tend to want to say why not play offensive time along those six months where you don't have to um respect healing time frames after surgery where we can really get after strength around that that knee and that hip the other thing we need to reflect on and how we can do better is that it's not just promote pt faster it's not just managing expectation but we have to understand the underlying ecosystem challenge that is present in a lot of these folks we see and especially in the systematic review and analysis that came out in january 2023 we see an underlying poor diet and we the reason we can know that it's related somehow to diet is it's we see overweight and obesity being precedent being present excuse me and so we have to understand that we have to intervene in these folks not just on knee range of motion and knee and hip strength and proprioception but we actually have to consider there's that underlying ecosystem piece and here's where pts can help too right we can help with mindset mindfulness exercise diet sleep and really guide them along that path as a shepherd we can help so we need to know that we can help right so some of us maybe don't even realize that our own you know 2018 cpg guidelines at the josp t let us know that exercise is medicine and whether patients do opt for surgery not that guideline really points out that supervised exercise so how many folks you see after arthroscopic partial metastatic go on they have the surgery and then the docs just give them a standard h.e.p. right so they go on having swelling quad like because they don't have an individualized program with progressive resistance exercise let those folks know too you need to be a part of their care in our own clinical practice guidelines say that it's not good enough to just do a an h.e.p. that's not tailored to the individual and then what that cpg highlights is we're always going to do a mix of hip and knee strengthening we will have manual therapy on board we will do proprioceptive activity and neuro re-ed for those joining this morning thank you to summarize where we are at when thinking about our degenerative meniscal care we need to advocate against surgery with that insidious onset of knee pain we need to share this evidence far and wide that it is not recommended as frontline defense we need to stop the fear messaging as a health care profession and let folks know that degenerative changes found on images are normal signs of living their life and that pain does not equate to imaging findings we need to dose hope and let folks know that at that two-year mark we can see just as great of improvements in pain function satisfaction of care with just p.t. right and i don't take the just p.t. lightly we don't need that overmedicalization p.t. first is the way i'd rather see a patient taking control of their ecosystem and knee health for two years rather than that wait and see approach will surgery help stop the scope folks have a happy tuesday and thank you for joining me 16:35 OUTRO Hey thanks for tuning in to the PT on ICE Daily Show if you enjoyed this content head on over to iTunes and leave us a review and be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the institute of clinical excellence if you're interested in getting plugged into more ice content on a weekly basis while earning CEUs from home check out our virtual ice online mentorship program at pt on ice dot com while you're there sign up for our hump day hustling newsletter for a free email every Wednesday morning with our top five 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Dr. Alexis Morgan // #ICEPelvic // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, #ICEPelvic Division Leader Alexis Morgan discusses how virtual pelvic floor care can prove beneficial for physical therapists in both virtual and in-person settings. Alexis shares that engaging in virtual pelvic floor care has significantly improved her overall abilities as a physical therapist, particularly in asking questions and gathering necessary information. She also notes that virtual care seamlessly integrates into both virtual and in-person worlds. Alexis highly recommends physical therapists to explore virtual pelvic floor care as it can be incredibly helpful. Furthermore, she mentions that a future podcast episode will delve into objective exams for pelvic floor virtual PT, indicating the importance of further exploring virtual care. Take a listen to learn how to better serve this population of patients & athletes. If you're looking to learn more about our live pregnancy and postpartum physical therapy courses or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What's up everybody? We are back with another episode of the PT on Ice Daily Show. Before we jump in, let's chat about Jane for a moment as they are our sure sponsor and they make this thing possible. The team at Jane understands that payment processing can be complex, so they built in an integrated payment solution called Jane Payments to help make things as simple as possible so you can get paid. If you're looking for an easy way to navigate payments, here's what we recommend. Head over to jane.app slash payments, book a one-on-one demo with a member of Jane's support team. This can give you a better sense of how Jane Payments can integrate with your practice several other popular features that Jane Payments supports, like memberships with the option to automatically invoice and process your membership payments online. If you know you're ready to get started, you can sign up for Jane and make sure when you do, you use the code ICEPT1MO as that gives you a one-month grace period while you settle in. Once you're in your new Jane account, you can flip the switch for Jane Payments at any time. Let the Jane team know if you need a hand with anything. They offer unlimited support and are always happy to jump in. Thanks everybody. Enjoy today's PT on ICE Daily Show 01:27 ALEXIS MORGANGood morning, Instagram. Good morning, PT on ICE Daily Show. My name is Dr. Alexis Morgan. I am one of the faculty with the Ice Pelvic Division. Really happy to have you all here joining me this Monday morning. My voice is a little raw from the weekend. We were just in Denver, Colorado, right outside of Denver at Onward Denver in Parker. This whole weekend, April and I spent with an awesome, awesome group of individuals and we were going through all of our material in our live course. We did our internal exams, supine and standing, and dove into all issues of pelvic floor dysfunction. We of course didn't stop there. We progressed through everything that our athletes are doing at the gym. So talking about how pelvic floor dysfunction fits into weightlifting and Valsalva and using a weightlifting belt and jumping and running and doing gymnastics. We had an absolute blast with this last weekend and we hope that you all will join us in the future for not only our live course but also our online course. I want to talk with you all today about virtual pelvic floor PT. We get a lot of questions asked over Instagram and on our Ice Students Facebook page. Sometimes we answer you all directly with some help. A lot of times we like to use your questions to teach everyone else about the topic that you asked. 03:10 VIRTUAL PELVIC FLOOR PT This particular topic actually came from an Ice student who was wanting to know some more information about how to really apply what we talk about in our live and online courses into the virtual setting. And so that's exactly what I want to dive into today. Kind of similar to what we talk about really in all of our courses is that our subjective exam should be very detailed. It should be specific and we should be taking a while to do our subjective exams. I will say that when it comes to doing an assessment virtually, the subjective becomes huge. Not everything but a vast majority of especially that initial assessment. I'll talk through some ways that we do some objective exams but I want to before we even get there really emphasize to you all the importance of that subjective exam particularly in the virtual setting. So when I say be specific, there's a couple of things I mean with this. Depending on the issue that they may be coming to you for, whether that's leaking urine, whether that's pelvic organ prolapse or feelings of heaviness or vaginal bulge, that might be leaking bowels, whether that's anal incontinence with stool or potentially with flatulence. Maybe it's constipation. Whatever that may be, we want to get very specific on their problem. Again, this is true in person and in virtual but it really does become extremely important in this setting because all you've got to track changes are your words. By you having conversations and by asking questions, that's how you track the person's change. So it's not in session, which sometimes we can gather on that first virtual, but definitely between sessions. It's really, really important. So maybe you use the patient specific functional scale where they fill this out ahead of time or maybe you help them out and ask them further questions when they tell you they leak with double unders. 06:26 LEAKING WITH DOUBLE UNDERS When I hear I'm leaking with double unders, that is not enough information for me to help you just yet. I've got a lot more questions and you should too because depending on how they answer, it could really change how you're going to treat them for that leaking. Not all leaking with jump rope is treated in the same way. And we've talked about this so much yesterday in our live course as we were going through jumping rope. But what we need to do is ask questions. So when does the leaking occur? When in that workout? And tell me what jumping rope looks like to you. Is it single unders? Is it double unders? If it's double unders, is it always doubles? Did you just gain that skill or is that an old skill for you? At what point during the workout? If it's early on, that's going to be different than if it's later on, right? I'm starting to think fatigue plays a role in their leaking. If it's later on in a workout, does it matter about which exact workout it is? What is the volume with that? That's going to be different, right? If it's 50 double unders versus 500 double unders, that's going to be different. And so we need to figure that out and we need to ask those questions. So you can use the patient specific functional scale and make that work for you. You can also use the PFDI, a specific to pelvic floor questionnaire. Now that is not an open box. That is marking, marking symptoms on a questionnaire. But what we've got to do is we've got to get information about their specific number one problem that they have. And moving forward, we need to understand what is their entire pelvic floor environment like. So we're going to ask questions and see if they have issues in other pelvic floor realms. Realizing we understand the number one reason why you came to me and I promise you I'm going to help you with that. But sometimes some of these other issues kind of play into your main leaking problem. Or as we're addressing your leaking, we can also address these other issues and together everything within your pelvic floor is going to function better. So a couple of those questions, again, depending on what they're coming in for, whether that's vaginal or bowel issues, you're going to ask, are you experiencing any leaking with maybe coughing or laughing, sneezing? And even with that, sometimes people are like, no, I don't leak with sneezing, but I do have to cross my legs together aggressively in order not to pee. OK, that's a problem, right? We're going to add that to our list. Do you feel like you can fully void? How frequently are you peeing? This one's a hard question for people to answer, but I generally want to know like, is it every 5, 10, 15 minutes or is it more like every hour or two? If it's very frequent, like every 15 minutes, that's going to be something that we note down and address early on. If it's every hour or two, we're going to lower that on our list. We may get to that if it's every hour and bothersome, we may not get to that. If there is high frequency, we're going to send them with a bladder diary and that's going to be one of our first trial treatments that we do with them. 12:00 STRAINING TO POOP We want to actually pull up the Bristol stool chart. I always laugh when I pull this up. I'm like, OK, listen, I'm going to ask you a weird question. I promise it's relevant. And then I pull up the Bristol stool chart and I say, give me a range like where do your poops normally fall within this Bristol stool chart? Looking at that to see, we want to see around that three or four that are relatively normal. But if it's above or below that, we're thinking, what does diet and hydration look like? And that may lead us into more questions. How frequently are we having a bowel movement? Is it every one to three days? Because that's normal. Or is it six times a day or every six days? Those are not normal. And so we can dive into that. Do you feel like you have to strain really hard in order to have your bowel movement? We have evidence and plenty of it on straining to poop. And we need to be teaching people not to do that for their pelvic floor health. It's a very simple and effective intervention. Do you use a squatty potty or do you use something under your feet to bring your knees up higher than your hips? For most cases, that's going to dramatically improve the ability to go have a bowel movement. And that's really, really helpful. And again, is there any leaking, any anal incontinence that is, again, flatulence or potentially stool? All of these, again, are good questions to ask, even if they're not coming in with bowel problems for you to resolve. We want to go through this with them. And then vaginally, we're going to ask some questions as well. Do you have any pain with insertion? So that insertion could be anything from a tampon to a penis, sex toy, or speculum exams. Do you have any pain with that insertion? And asking, do you have any loss of air, especially with our active individuals who might be going upside down, whether that's in yoga, Pilates, CrossFit? Sometimes people can have loss of air or queefing. And we want to know about that because all of these things really paint a picture for us. Now, usually, this takes up quite a bit of time. I mean, I've been talking about what questions to ask for the last 10 minutes with absolutely no answers behind them. So this typically is a really good starting point and often is the vast majority of my first virtual pelvic floor assessment. However, I like to leave time for a few more questions and then getting into education as my trial treatment. So the few other questions that we always want to know is what is exercise or movement look like, how is sleep, and what do you do for stress management? Some of these questions you can ask in your intake paperwork. You may want to go over that with them as well. But looking at them as a whole person and looking at their pelvic floor issues as a whole. And then from here, we do trial treatments as education. So depending on how they answer any of these questions, typically, and it's beyond the scope of this podcast to really talk about various education pieces for each of those questions, but I'm going to educate and I'm going to intervene. So maybe that is let's start hydrating. Get yourself a favorite water bottle and I actually want you to hydrate. Or potentially it's the opposite if they're over hydrating. Maybe it's can we decrease that intake throughout the day or right before bed? Maybe it's get a squatty potty or get your toddler's stool that's right in front of the sink and slide that under your feet for when you need to have bowel movement. Going back to our initial example of the leaking with double unders, perhaps it is I want you to video yourself doing double unders from the side view and the front view and send it back to me. But between now and then, I want you to make sure that we are videoing it at the end of you're having that leaking. And after we get that, I'm going to have you take more rest breaks if that's what they need. Or maybe it's go into your single unders since double unders are always causing leaking and throughout our plan of care, we are going to dive into that. I try to find some piece of education and something that we know will help them resolve a little bit of their issue and get us rolling with this. We talk about it in our live course, but we have good evidence for education actually improving pelvic floor symptoms. And I think there's no better place to really feel that as a practitioner to feel the difference in the amount of education that you can provide and the amount of change that can occur. There's no better place than in this virtual care where truly we are guides. I can do nothing with my hands. I can do nothing with my body to change how that individual is functioning. I purely have to use my voice and teach and ask questions. If you have not done virtual pelvic floor care, I would highly recommend it. It has made me a much better physical therapist altogether, much better at asking these questions and getting the information that I need. And it blends into both worlds, both virtual and in person. So if you haven't done it, I highly recommend getting some patients in that virtual care because it can be really helpful. That needs to be all for today. I have a lot more that I could say, especially if we dive into the objective exam and how to do that. But I think that's going to need to be a podcast part two for virtual care. So I will do that the next time I hop on to the daily show and talk with you all about how we do objective exams for pelvic floor virtual PT. Thank you all so much for joining me and listening in this Monday morning. Or if you're listening later on the podcast, thank you for listening. One quick note, it is CrossFit Games Week and we are so, so excited to be cheering on our very own Kelly Bimpy at the Games with her team this year. So tune in to the Games. If you're going to be there, let us know. There's several of us ICE faculty that are going to be at the Games. We would love to see you and say hello. And I don't know, maybe we can snag a workout in or something. But we are so excited. It is Games Week. Have an awesome week. Hopefully we'll see you up north. If not, catch you later. Have a good one. 19:26 OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on ICE Daily Show. If you enjoyed this content, head on over to iTunes and leave us a review and be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the Institute of Clinical Excellence. If you're interested in getting plugged into more ICE content on a weekly basis while earning CUs from home, check out our virtual ICE online mentorship program at ptonice.com. While you're there, sign up for our Hump Day Hustling newsletter for a free email every Wednesday morning with our top five research articles and social media posts that we think are worth reading. Head over to ptonice.com and scroll to the bottom of the page to sign up.    

Dr. Guillermo Contreras // #FitnessAthleteFriday // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Fitness Athlete faculty member Guillermo Contreras discusses how manipulating reps within a set can alter the intended stimulus of the set to bias towards power, strength, hypertrophy, or endurance gains. Guillermo discusses new research highlighting that depending on population, some individuals may still experience strength gains at lower loads & higher rep counts and that most individuals will improve hypertrophy regardless of rep dosage.   Take a listen to learn how to better serve this population of patients & athletes. If you're looking to learn from our Clinical Management of the Fitness Athlete division, check out our live physical therapy courses or our online physical therapy courses. Check out our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION 00:00 INTRO What's up everybody? Before we get rolling, I'd love to share a bit about Jane, the practice management software that we love and use here at ICE who are also our show sponsor. Jane knows that collecting new patient info, their consent and signatures can be a time consuming process, but with their automated forms, it does not have to be. With Jane, you can assign intake forms to specific treatments or practitioners, and Jane takes care of sending the correct form out to your patients. Save even more time by requesting a credit card on file through your intake forms with the help of Jane Payments, their integrated PCI compliant payment solution. Conveniently, Jane will actually prompt your patients to fill out their intake form 24 hours before their appointment if they have not done so already. If you're looking to streamline your intake form collection, head over to jane.app slash physical therapy, book a one on one demo with a member of the Jane team. They'll be able to show you the features I just mentioned and answer any other questions you may have. Don't forget, if you do sign up, use the code ICEPT1MO for a one month grace period applied to your new account. Thanks everybody. Enjoy the show. 01:32 GUILLERMO CONTRERAS Good morning, crew. Welcome to the PT on ICE Daily Show. Welcome to one of the best days of the week, if not the best day of the week, Fitness Athlete Friday. I am with you. My name is Guillermo Contreras, part of the teaching team with the fitness athlete crew of the Institute of Clinical Excellence, talking all things delightful and super interesting, such as the rep continuum. So I'm going to leave you a little bit guessing as to what that means and dive into some fun stuff as in where are we going to be over the next couple of months? Where can you catch us on the road before the year ends? For our live courses, we have more than a handful coming up here in the next several months, starting in September on the weekend of September 9th and 10th. We'll be in Bismarck, North Dakota. In October, we will be technically September, October, September 30th and October 1st. We are going to head out to the West Coast to Newark, California. A couple weeks later, October, a week later, October 7th and 8th, we're going to stay in the West Coast. We'll be in Linwood, Washington. Moving into November, we'll be double, double teaming for, I guess, I don't know if that's the right phrase, but two different locations on November 4th and 5th, San Antonio, Texas and Hoover, Alabama. So moving from the West Coast down to the South. November 18th and 19th, we will be in Holmes Beach, Holmes Beach, Florida. I'm not sure where that is, but Florida. And then lastly, in December, we are going to be in Metair, Louisiana, as well as Colorado Springs on the weekend of December 9th and 10th. So there you go. If you've been looking to take a live course with the Central Foundation, or with fitness athlete courses, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight opportunities for you between now and the end of the year to catch us on the road and be able to take that course and join us. And hopefully we get to meet you out there. If you are looking to do the online courses, Essential Foundations currently is going on their seventh week of this current cohort. So we're finishing up in about a week and a half. That take about a month off. And then we're going to kick off the next Essential Foundations cohort on September 11th. So if you've been looking to get started with the fitness athlete coursework, try to get an idea of what you would do when you work with fitness athletes, get more comfortable with the barbell movements, the squat, the deadlift, the press, what CrossFit is in general, some introduction to programming as well as the gymnastics movements, such as the pull-up. Would love to have you join us on September 11th as we kick off the new Essential Foundations cohort. These courses do tend to sell out online. So signing up sooner rather than later behooves you if you're interested in it and you want to get it in before the end of the year. Advanced Concepts as well. I think that only has two cohorts a year. So only twice a year that you can actually sign up and take Advanced Concepts. That second time right now is going to be on September 17th. Advanced Concepts does always sell out. It's a more high level course. You're going to learn a much deeper dive into programming, into modifications, into the high level gymnastics movements, such as handstand push-ups, muscle ups, high level Olympic weightlifting, breakdown and progressions. A lot of really deep dive stuff. A lot of brain work and physical work you'll be doing for this course. So that one starts up on September 17th. So please be sure to sign up again sooner rather than later for that one because that one does absolutely sell out early. Sometimes a couple months early. So sign up now if you're looking to complete your coursework to get your fitness athlete certification or if it's just something that's been on your bucket list you've been dying to take but you have not and you want to get it in before the end of the year. Fantastic. So that's what we have on the docket for fitness athlete. This morning the topic at hand is the rep continuum or the repetition continuum. For those who are not sure what that entirely means, what we're looking at with the rep continuum is, I just realized my camera is really blurry over here but that's okay. Is what we commonly know as the strength endurance continuum which for the majority of us or anyone who's been in like the strength and conditioning realm what that means is okay what are the optimal rep ranges and loads that you want to use when you're trying to train strength, when you're trying to train hypertrophy and when you're trying to train more like localized muscular endurance. And for the longest time we have had the accepted theory that it is one to five reps at 80 to 100 rep 100 percent run at max. Hypertrophy is going to be eight to 12 reps at 60 to 80 percent one rep max and endurance is going to be 15 or more reps at anything below 60 percent of your one rep max. That's what's been commonly known and so in 2021 Bradshon building company down at the NSCA right they decided to do a lit review look at everything they could out there and got a better understanding of is it truly that is that the only way or are those the only things we know or are there actually other ways to gain strength gain hypertrophy gain gain endurance in our muscles and is that truly the most optimal way that we can do these things or is there other ways that we can kind of build it up can we use lighter loads can we use moderate loads can we use heavy loads and play around and dive into these different realms. So again they did a very very significantly large lit review and their purpose of the paper was to critically scrutinize the research on the repetition continuum highlight gaps in literature and draw practical conclusions for exercise prescription. Based on the evidence they proposed a new paradigm whereby muscular rotation can be obtained and in some cases optimized across a wide spectrum of loading zones. So that is that kind of the basis for the paper and it's a long one it's probably like 11 pages and you have like a bunch of pages of exactly the the the protocols that they use in all these different studies that they reviewed and I'm just going to try and do my very best to summarize what they kind of found in each section and then at the end if you don't want to like listen to this whole thing you're listening later on just jump to the last maybe like minute or so and I'm going to try and kind of concisely conclude everything there. When it came to strength strength as we know it is supposed to be ideally that one to five rep range 80 to 100 percent one rep max heavy heavy loads is how we're going to build strength and what they found in this here is that trained individuals people have been doing it for a while tended to show improvement in strength even with light loads so people who have been doing it for a while people who who already lift heavy and such when they use lighter loads in different variations there actually is an increase in overall strength albeit they they mentioned in a caveat that it is to a lesser extent than the use of heavy loads. Um they also mentioned that typically what they see is as you reach that genetic ceiling like where your where your strength is kind of at its highest or going to be pretty high the greatest benefit is going to be in heavy loads with specific movements that you're trying to get stronger and again that should be something that all of us are probably saying like no duh right that's that's the set principle right you learn that in undergrad kinesiology right specific adaptations to impose demands when you get someone that's a higher level at the very highest level and you're trying to get them stronger the way to get them stronger is to apply specific stressors to elicit a specific progressive improvement in strength that's what they saw there so what we see is with heavy loads or when we want to build strength you can do it with low loads there are ways you're going to build low loads and that practical application the clinical application is that all the studies i guess the majority of studies that found that low loads improved strength their way of testing strength was using isometric dynamometry therefore the isokinetic or isotonic leg extension leg curl hip extension you name it they used single joint mechanisms to test that single joint single movement strength from a practical application that can very easily mean for us in the rehab realm if we are trying to get someone's quad stronger if you're trying to improve specifically quad strength hamstring strength whatever it may be there is a point where we can use lower loads to high intensities right all across the board effort was dependent on improvement maximal or hard efforts with low loads showed improvement when individuals cut off before maximal effort before fatigue before stress there was not the same amount of improvement whether it was strength hypertrophy or muscular endurance so low loads can be used on single joint movements however strength is most often applied in compound movements coordinated multi-joint efforts i.e. squats deadlifts presses lunges all those type of things and so we want to make sure that if we are trying to help someone improve their squat improve their deadlift strength improve their rowing strength we're trying to create these compound movements that are are functional in nature to what they're doing we have to be getting comfortable with the barbell movements we have to be comfortable loading them heavily right so if you're going to be working with athletes who are doing functional movements you better be loading them with functional movements you better be loading them heavy with functional movements if the goal is to do actual strength improvement and that actually is nice because it it shows two things right one yes the one to five rep range eighty one hundred percent max of these movements is where we want to be for strength and two if we're trying to do very specific rotator cuff bicep quad hamstring strengthening then it's okay to use lower loads maximize that intensity range and we're going to see strength improvements there if we're very specific with what we're doing there number two moving on to hypertrophy hypertrophy getting the gains bigger bigger arms shoulders back legs quads hamstrings you name it everything there well we typically see in the realm of like bodybuilding in the realm of anyone who's trying to put on mass is we're going to be doing somewhere around that eight to twelve rep range sixty to eighty percent so submaximal loads add an effort when you get to that mid-range you're creating some sort of mechanical stress that causes that muscle to basically in essence break down a little then build back up and get stronger as long as you know all the fuel and everything is there for it and in the study the meta analysis showed comparing high loads which are greater than 60 percent of one rep max versus low loads which are less than 60 percent one rep max is that there was no real difference in hypertrophy which is kind of interesting right you can again offer an example of you can use low or high loads moderate loads kind of in that range to build hypertrophy the notable effort though again that they mentioned in here is that when individuals were using low loads the effort was much higher so it was a higher level of effort because it is critical for maximizing hypertrophic adaptations so again if our goal is to have someone who has a very very atrophied quad and we are not going to try and pursue something that allows for 60 to 80 percent of that one rep max relatively heavy loads right moderately heavy loads that are challenging and fatiguing and stressful then we'd better be using low loads but eliciting a maximal effort where they are working hard for 15 18 20 reps whatever it may be that kind of ties in a little bit with with anyone who kind of plays around with blood flow restriction training where you're doing 30 15 15 and you're maximizing that effort there it's a very low load somewhere around 20 30 percent of one rep max for a lot of reps there too but that's again there's another topic there right effort is dependent on this are we are we using maximal or high level of effort to maximize hypertrophic gains strength gains etc the one thing this study did show the review did show was cool is that for from an age-related standpoint the light load training appears to be as effective as heavy training so when we're looking at our older adults where we might see more of those joint related conditions when they can't sometimes tolerate heavy loads on their knees on their hips whatever it may be using light loads at this this higher effort level might induce a similar hypertrophic change because it's going to stimulate both type one and type two muscle fibers when we're using lower loads we're in essence what they mentioned in this review is those type one fibers might be stimulated stimulated more because you're doing more of an endurance or long bout of exercise and effort which is going to stimulate those more when you're having it's more type two muscle fibers so either way we're building them both up and we're trying to build hypertrophy in that way so there we go and even in the really said that some researchers propose that you should train both like high level volume with high effort and lower volume with higher effort as well again working in those things there too so minimum threshold though if we have to like throw a number out there is where they're in there it's somewhere in the range of 30 one rep max right we should not be training anything below 30 of our one rep max or if you're using rp like a three out of ten so hopefully that makes sense right low loads are fine high loads are fine they're both good again as i mentioned with strength and now hypertrophy effort is dependent right we need to be working hard we need to be pushing individuals and lastly there's the endurance response right less than uh greater than less than 60 percent of one rep max 15 or more repetitions right lots and lots and lots of reps trying to really fatigue those things out and um in the look review right this is probably the shortest section in there that kind of looked at and it kind of just demonstrated that like there's a lack of dose response relationship right whether you were doing uh high loads or moderate loads light loads there wasn't a significant change in overall muscular endurance and i believe uh the lighter loads for endurance were more beneficial for like lower extremities which would make sense right you're running it's a lot of like impact and going doing a lot of air squats uh things like that's going to help build that muscular endurance uh versus doing like really heavy back squats and hoping that's going to translate to doing a 5k or doing like a really long hike and stuff like that it can there's aspects of it that will help but with resiliency and like injury prevention we're talking like muscular endurance so it's the ability to go longer in that way you can look at a powerlifter who just does powerlifting and know that they ain't doing like a 5k anytime sooner a long cycle right so those those are the main kind of areas we looked at right so again a lot a lot of talk there a lot of like little details about this lit review and what i want to specify again this conclusion right what is what is the grand arching scheme or grand arching topic uh or takeaway from this it is that what we're looking at trying to build strength strength related advantages of heavier load are dose dependent right so if we are going to have someone get stronger at the squat the deadlift or the press they better be doing heavy squats heavy deadlifts and heavy presses if we want someone to specifically improve quad strength we can do squats we can do step ups we can also do isometric leg extensions at lighter loads for higher volume and what matters here is the effort and also if you are trying to train for a specific thing you're trying to help someone improve their squat or increase strength with squat they better be squatting right specific adaptations to impose demand for strength is the greatest area that we see that that has to be specified there strength is going to improve strength hypertrophy we can use high loads we can use low loads we can use moderate loads if you want to build muscle we can use them all the one thing they mentioned though is you have to remember with low loads it's a lot more effort dependent there's going to be a higher amount of metabolic stress which can lead to just general discomfort in the muscle and some people don't like that so the the likelihood of them sticking around to doing for doing like three sets of 18 at maximal effort where they're feeling like an eight or nine out of 10 difficulty is not there the compliance might not be there high loads you need more volumes more more volume right so you can you only do two or three sets two or three reps i'm sorry at 80 90 percent which means you're probably doing seven eight nine sets to get the appropriate amount of volume to elicit the hypertrophy response and what we know is that's not fun if you've ever done 10 sets of three something really really heavy that is a miserable session and it's also hard on your on your joints on your tissues it's a lot of stress so if anything is off in your training continuum whether it be your sleep your recovery your nutrition right you're going to feel that much much more which is why we probably go with that middle moderate range where it's hard enough difficult enough but it's not going to elicit any type of ill feeling or pain discomfort etc and then lastly with endurance as i mentioned already the lighter loads are going to be more beneficial for the lower extremity musculature otherwise it's pretty much equivocal like whether you use heavy loads or lighter loads for endurance you're not going to see too significant of a difference as far as gains go in that area cool i will link the study in the comments for anyone who wants to check it out for themselves that's all i got for you this morning on this fitness athlete friday if you're doing some hypertrophy work today play with some heavy load play some moderate load play some light load if you're doing some strength work get after that barbell get heavy with it and hopefully everyone enjoys their weekend thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you next week on the pt on ice daily show take care again 19:04 OUTROHey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on ICE Daily show if you enjoyed this content head on over to iTunes and leave us a review and be sure to check us out on Facebook and Instagram at the institute of clinical excellence if you're interested in getting plugged into more ice content on a weekly basis while earning CEUs from home check out our virtual ice online mentorship program at www.ptonice.com while you're there sign up for our hump day hustling newsletter for a 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