In this episode of the SSI Orbit Podcast, host Mathieu Glaude talks with Dominik Beron, Co-Founder and CEO of walt.id, about the game-changing eIDAS 2 regulation and its impact on decentralized identity across Europe. They explore organizations' growing interest in issuing credentials, the potential challenges facing traditional identity verification companies, and the mixed sentiments surrounding the regulation's timing. 01:29 Significance of EIDAS 2 10:28 Potential Disruption of Identity Verification Companies 13:13 Negative Sentiments towards EIDAS 2 21:19 Alignment in Digital Identity Offerings of Different Nation States  25:36 Role of European Blockchain Services Infrastructure (EBSI) 30:33 Value of Digital Credentials on Blockchain Networks 40:00 The Genesis of Open Source Strategy 44:16 Benefits of Building an Open Source Company 48:53 Contributing to Open Source Projects 50:23 The Future of Wallets 55:13 Digital Signatures and Identity Wallets

In this episode, Mathieu Glaude hosts Hakan Yildiz from Accenture and Vladimir Simjanoski from Blokverse to explore the world of digital credential protocols like Aries, OpenID4VC, ISO, and KERI. The discussion provides a comprehensive analysis of these protocols, focusing on their interoperability, privacy, and the future of digital identity. The episode highlights critical issues like combating deepfakes and the Trust Over IP Foundation’s Credential Exchange Protocol task force. Join us for this insightful conversation. 0:22 - 18:48 - Comparing Digital Credential Exchange Protocols: Aries, OpenID, ISO and KERI 18:49 - 26:22 - Profiles, Interoperability, Test Suites 26:23 - 36:15 - Interoperability from the Perspectives of Issuers, Holders and Verifiers 36:17 - 44:10 - Protocol Requirements for Humans, Organisations, and Machines 44:11 - 53:08 - Surveillance and Correlation, Privacy Considerations 53:09 - 58:38 - Deciding Data Sharing: Balancing Autonomy, Regulations, and Governance for Holders 58:39 - 1:02:41 - Combating Deepfakes: Enhancing Content Authenticity with Digital Credentials and Signatures. 1:02:43 1:07:27 - Vision Behind the Trust over IP’s Credential Exchange Protocol Task Force

Markus Sabadello has been a pioneer and leader in the field of digital identity for many years and has contributed to cutting-edge technologies that have emerged in this space. He is co-editor of the Decentralized Identifiers specification at W3C and co-chair of the Identifiers and Discovery Working Group at the Decentralized Identity Foundation. Markus is founder of Danube Tech, a consulting and development company that works on DID-related infrastructure and products, including the Universal Resolver, Universal Registrar, and the Godiddy.com platform. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/decentralized-identifiers-strengths-weaknesses-opportunities-threats⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Markus and Mathieu in this episode include: [00:47] Comparison of DIDs to Other Verifiable Identifiers: Exploring how DIDs contrast with other types of verifiable identifiers and their benefits over traditional identifiers like email addresses and phone numbers. [11:50] How to trust a DID?: Identifying the technical and governance aspects necessary for trusting DIDs. [15:46] Building Trust Around DID Methods: Discussing the challenges and approaches to building trust in various DID methods, considering technical integrity and governance. [23:34] Multi-Factor Authentication for DIDs: Considering whether incorporating multi-factor authentication concepts into DIDs is a viable framing. [25:34] Governance and Human Trust Inputs in DID Documents:Debating the inclusion of governance or human trust inputs in DID documents and whether these should remain purely technical. [31:13] Placing Claims in DID Documents: Discussing the implications of including claims in DID documents, especially concerning privacy, correlation, and data privacy laws. [39:11] Opportunities for DIDs: Identifying opportunities for DIDs to become easier to use, deploy, and provide value, including DID method discovery. [44:04] Value of DIDs Across Different Protocols: Questioning whether a particular DID method retains the same value across different credential exchange protocols. [52:01] Why the Market Should Focus More on Identifiers: Reflecting on the emphasis on verifiable credentials over identifiers and trust models in the context of ongoing digital identity programs. [58:00] Working Groups and Activities for DIDs: Highlighting current working groups and activities related to DIDs where listeners can contribute and engage. Where to find Markus? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/markus-sabadello-353a0821/ X: https://twitter.com/peacekeeper Follow Mathieu Glaude X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/⁠

Daniel Bachenheimer is Accenture’s Digital Identity Innovations Technical Lead and has been designing and delivering solutions for various clients for over 30 years. For the past 20 years, Dan has focused on Border Management and Identity Management solutions and has been involved in large-scale Identity systems including US-VISIT and UIDAI, Trusted Traveler Programs, Multimodal Biometric systems integration, RFID implementations, along with Identity, Credential and Access Management solutions. Dan participates in biometrics standards (INCITS, ISO/IEC SC37), blockchain standards (ISO TC307), ID Cards and Wallets (INCITS, ISO/IEC 17, is an IEEE Certified Biometrics Professional, is a Biometrics Institute Director and Privacy Expert Group contributing member, is Co-Chair of INATBA’s Identity Working Group is the Vice Chair of IATA’s Identity Management Working Group, is an ID2020 Technical Advisory Committee contributing member, participates in ToIP, DIACC, WTTC, WEF, and Turing Institute Digital Identity working groups, and has contributed to World Economic Forum and World Bank reports related to Identity. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/the-digital-travel-credential-dtc-with-daniel-bachenheimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Daniel and Mathieu in this podcast episode include: Governance of International Air Travel: Inquiry about the organization responsible for developing international standards and specifications for smooth airport experiences across different countries. ICAO's Role and Dynamics: Exploration of ICAO's governance and business interactions with countries like the United States and Canada. Discussion on the creation and alignment of passports through ICAO's collaboration with various countries. Machine Authentication and Passport Digitization: Examination of the trend towards machine authentication at airports and its impact on the digitization of physical passports. Biometrics in International Travel: Inquiry about the alignment of biometric standards and technologies across countries for travel purposes. Photo Accuracy in Travel Documents: Discussion on the accuracy of photos in travel documents and their comparison across different locations. Integrity of Various Travel Documents: Comparison of the integrity and standards of images in passports, visas, and driver's licenses for biometric assessments. Digital Travel Credential (DTC): Introduction to the concept of the digital travel credential and its relation to current travel processes. Exploration of the benefits of moving towards a digital travel credential. Discussion on the standards and application integration of digital travel credentials. Benefits of DTC for Travelers: Analysis of how DTCs could streamline travel processes and their comparison to existing programs like Clear and Nexus. Future of DTC Adoption: Inquiry into the current state of DTC pilot projects and predictions for future adoption trends. Integration of DTCs in Wallets and Applications: Consideration of the logical placement of DTCs in digital wallets and applications, and their potential impact on travel efficiency. Where to find Daniel? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-bachenheimer-2632202/⁠ Follow Mathieu Glaude X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/⁠

Both guests co-chair the ‘AI and Metaverse Task Force’ at the Trust over IP Foundation. Wenjing Chu is a senior director of technology strategy at Futurewei. He is a founding Steering Committee member of the Trust over IP Foundation and a founding Board Member of the OpenWallet Foundation. Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay works on Standards, Community and Customer Experience at Dhiway. He is also a Trustee at the Sovrin Foundation and a co-author of the Principles of SSI published and maintained by the Sovrin Foundation. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/digital-trust-in-the-age-of-generative-ai-part-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Wenjing, Sankarshan and Mathieu in this podcast episode include, OpenAI Drama - Discussion about the recent OpenAI drama, including Sam Altman's firing and rehiring, and Microsoft's involvement. AI Governance and AI Misconceptions - Why we should focus on AI governance rather than getting caught up in daily news and doom scenarios. Discussion about misconceptions in AI, specifically statistical and computational misconceptions. Exploring practical solutions for digital trust in AI. Provenance and Authentication in AI - The importance of provenance in AI applications, such as robotics or content creation. Challenges in authentication and the need for stronger solutions. The applicability of these solutions across various domains. Content Authenticity - Defining content authenticity and its governance. The distinction between machine-generated and human-verified content. Digital Trust and Content Authenticity - Discussing digital trust in the context of AI. Separating protocols from end-user platforms. The role of content authenticity in digital trust. Examples of current approaches to content authenticity on the internet. Truth and Trust Registries - Human pursuit of truth and the influence of context and consumption. The role of trust registries in providing inputs for trust decisions. The need for widespread inputs to aid in making trust decisions. Where to find Wenjing? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/wenjingchu/ Where to find Sankarshan? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan/ Follow Mathieu Glaude X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/

Lance Byrd is a secure organizational identity developer at GLEIF and co-founder of RootsID. He has been working on secure global scale data systems for over 20 years. He is helping to build the verifiable Legal Entity Identifier (vLEI) ecosystem to facilitate trusted interactions between legal entities around the globe. He is the co-chair of the Trust over IP (ToIP) did:webs task force which is an effort to secure did:web and bridge the DID-based ecosystem with the vLEI ecosystem. He participates in many open source and specification efforts with Trust over IP, KERI, Decentralized Identity Foundation, Hyperledger, and W3C. And, has given public talks on SSI, KERI, the vLEI ecosystem, identity wallets, DIDComm, and more. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/secure-organizational-identity-with-lance-byrd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Lance and Mathieu in this podcast episode include: Differences Between Personal and Organizational Identity: We explored the unique challenges and political concerns surrounding personal identity, contrasting them with the complexities yet seemingly smoother processes in organizational identity. Legal and Privacy Concerns in Identity Management: The discussion highlighted how legal structures and privacy concerns shape the management of both personal and organizational identities, with a special focus on GDPR and its implications. Governance and Trust in Organizational Identity: The conversation shifted to the role of governance and trust in shaping organizational identity, using examples like the EU Banking Authority to illustrate these concepts. Integrity of Signatures and Cybersecurity: We discussed the critical importance of signature integrity in preventing cybersecurity attacks, examining recent incidents like the MGM Okta attack. Security Mechanisms and Key Rotation: The podcast touched upon the importance of security mechanisms like key rotation in enhancing digital security, differentiating it from traditional password changes. The Interplay of Security Features and User Experience: We delved into how user experience and design play a crucial role in the adoption of security technologies, balancing ease of use with robust security measures. Differences in UX Between Consumer and Organizational Contexts: The discussion concluded with an examination of the varying approaches to user experience in consumer versus organizational settings, and the challenges in changing consumer behaviour regarding privacy and security. Where to find Lance? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/2byrds/ X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/LanceRootsID Follow Mathieu Glaude X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude⁠ LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/

Kumar Gajmer is the Product Manager and the Technical Lead for the Bhutan National Digital Identity (NDI) Project. He started his career in IT in 2008 as a Software Engineer. After completion of his high school in Bhutan, he did his bachelor's in Information Technology from Anna University, India. Pallavi Sharma leads Marketing and Communications for the Bhutan National Digital Identity (NDI) Project. As part of the role, she drives media, public relations, and education campaigns to accelerate adoption of the Bhutan NDI digital wallet. She also works in close liaison with national and international stakeholders for enhanced product positioning and visibility. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/bhutan-national-digital-identity-ndi-what-it-takes-for-a-nationwide-launch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Kumar, Pallavi and Mathieu in this podcast episode include, Project Goals and Context - What were the overall goals of the Bhutan NDI project, and how do they relate to the specific context and needs of Bhutan? Financial Inclusion and Digital Identity - How does focusing on financial inclusion as a starting point influence the approach to digital identity in Bhutan? Decentralized Architecture Decision - What research and considerations led to the choice of a decentralized architecture for Bhutan's digital identity program? Legal Framework and Privacy - How is privacy integrated into Bhutan's legislation, and what legal adjustments were made to accommodate digital identity? Legislative Process Duration and Challenges - What was the timeline and were there any significant challenges in developing the National Digital Identity Act? Governance and Public-Private Partnership - What does the governance body for the NDI look like, and how does the public-private partnership model function? Business Strategy and Ecosystem Growth - How were use cases developed, and what strategies were employed to grow the ecosystem and foster public-private partnerships? Voluntary Participation - Is participation in the digital ID system optional for Bhutanese citizens? Use Case Categorization - How are use cases categorized and prioritized within the digital identity framework? Foundational Identity Credential - What does the foundational identity credential look like, and what government records form its basis? Private Sector Collaboration - What challenges were faced in educating and gaining buy-in from the private sector for the new digital identity infrastructure? Private Sector as Credential Issuers - Are there concerns from the private sector about the risks associated with becoming credential issuers? Technology and Wallet Infrastructure - Why was a decision made to develop a specific wallet for Bhutan's NDI instead of using existing wallet infrastructures like Apple or Google Wallet? International Standards and Compatibility - How were international standards considered in the development of Bhutan's digital identity infrastructure to accommodate foreigners? Where to find Kumar? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kumar-gajmer-b8195024/ ⁠⁠ Where to find Pallavi? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/pallavi-sharma-4302a737/ Follow Mathieu Glaude X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/

Kate Giovacchini (Arizona State University) and Andrew Johnson (Fluree, PBC) are both working on The Trusted Learner Network (TLN) initiative, a new, secure, and decentralized approach to recording, curating, and sharing learner data on abilities and skills across the learner’s lifespan. Kate Giovacchini is a higher education technology leader who passionately believes in the power of education to change lives and change the world. She has nearly a decade of experience working at Arizona State University where she has spent her time working in the areas of online education technology, business intelligence, ERP delivery, and large initiative execution. Andrew Johnson is a lead software engineer at Fluree, PBC where he leads architecture and implementation for client projects. He's worked on software development solutions for projects that include university student information systems, patent publication records, consumer data ownership, and federal public housing policy. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/how-digital-credentials-are-transforming-learning-data⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Kate, Andrew and Mathieu in this podcast episode include, Impact of freely available online information on higher education - How has the trend of easily accessible online information, such as courses and certificates, influenced the strategies of universities and higher education institutions? Value of diplomas and other credentials in the modern age - With the rise of various credentials and certificates, is the traditional university diploma still as valuable? What other credentials might a learner want to accumulate? Modernizing systems of records and the role of issuers - How are systems of records being modernized to make credentials more mobile and trusted? Who are the potential issuers beyond traditional universities? Value of personal references and incentives for issuers - Is there value in making it easier for individuals, like professors, to provide references or credentials? How do incentives differ for various types of issuers? Importance of governance in the context of digital credentials - With the growing focus on governance over technology, how is the authenticity and trustworthiness of digital credentials being ensured? User experience (UX) and wallet infrastructure for digital credentials - How is the user experience being optimized for digital credential wallets? Where will learner credentials be stored, and how will they be accessed? Role of verifiers in the TLN digital credential ecosystem - How are verifiers being integrated into the network, and how does their role tie into the prioritization of use cases? How will the adoption of digital credentials be spurred among verifiers? Where to find Kate? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kategio/ X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KateGiovacchini Where to find Andrew? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-johnson-web-dev/ X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Andere_Andrew Follow Mathieu Glaude X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude⁠ LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/

Drummond Reed has spent a quarter-century in Internet identity, security, privacy, and trust infrastructure. He is Director, Trust Services at Gen Digital, previous Avast after their acquisition of Evernym, where he was Chief Trust Office. He is co-author of the book, Self-Sovereign Identity (Manning Publications, 2021), and co-editor of the W3C Decentralized Identifiers (DID) 1.0 specification. At the Trust over IP Foundation, Drummond is a member of the Steering Committee and co-chair of the Governance Stack Working Group and the Concepts and Terminology Working Group. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/trust-spanning-protocol-seven-key-pillars⁠⁠⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Drummond and Mathieu in this podcast episode include: Internet's Broken State: Is the internet considered broken due to issues with security, privacy, authenticity, and confidentiality (SPAC)? How does this relate to the work in the digital trust space, especially with Trust over IP? Trust over IP's Role: How does the Trust over IP technology architecture address the internet's shortcomings? Is the SPAC acronym a good framework for understanding the Trust over IP's approach? Design Principles of Trust Finding Protocol: During the design phase of the trust spanning protocol, were there any trade-offs or concessions made, especially in terms of security, privacy, authenticity, or confidentiality? Pillar 1: Verifiable Identifiers: Explaining the importance of verifiable identifiers as the first key pillar in the design of the trust spanning protocol. Interoperability and Identifiers: Will endpoints need to support the same types of identifiers for interoperability? How does one endpoint evaluate another's capability to support a particular identifier? Pillar 2: End-to-End Authenticity & Confidentiality: How does the trust spanning protocol ensure both authenticity and confidentiality in communications? Pillar 3: Direct Connections: How does the trust spanning protocol handle direct connections between endpoints using different types of channels? Pillar 4: Routing via Intermediaries: How does the protocol handle routing through intermediaries to ensure privacy and security? What might a practical implementation of this look like in the future? Pillar 5: Relationship Context Channels: How does the trust spanning protocol handle changes in the context of interactions between endpoints? Pillar 6: Text and Binary Encoding: How does the trust spanning protocol standardize the way endpoints communicate using text and binary encoding? Pillar 7: Trust Task Protocol Framework: What is the trust task protocol framework, and how does it relate to specific protocols for different types of trust tasks? Conclusion and Future: What's next for the trust spanning protocol? Are there any regulatory movements, like the Digital Markets Act, that might influence its development and adoption? Where to find Drummond? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/drummondreed/ X/Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/drummondreed Follow Mathieu Glaude X/Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/

Jamie Smith, digital technology expert, discusses the future of digital customer relationships. Topics include customer engagement channels, maintaining a human touch in digital interactions, intermediaries' influence on interactions, shifting focus from quantity to quality, and the evolution of identifiers.