

CONTROL
Seven Letter
CONTROL is a podcast hosted by Seven Letter’s Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller, two veterans of Capitol Hill who now serve as communications strategists to Fortune 500 companies, non-profits and advocacy coalitions. Drawing on their experience in GOP congressional politics, the podcast seeks to look around the corner at the policy priorities and political dynamics that will define Congress.
The podcast series talks to experts who know the institution and helps explain the challenges and opportunities facing a divided Congress. Guests include subject-matter experts, journalists, former lawmakers, and political operatives, all with a keen insight into what is next for Washington. With Season 2 of CONTROL, you can expect a new episode every Tuesday when Congress is in session.
The podcast series talks to experts who know the institution and helps explain the challenges and opportunities facing a divided Congress. Guests include subject-matter experts, journalists, former lawmakers, and political operatives, all with a keen insight into what is next for Washington. With Season 2 of CONTROL, you can expect a new episode every Tuesday when Congress is in session.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 46min
How Does the Shutdown End? Feat. Mychael Schnell
How Does the Shutdown End? Feat. Mychael Schnell
With the government shutdown dragging on into another week, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller discuss how Congress got to this point and what may break the stalemate. Then, MSNBC congressional reporter Mychael Schnell joins the show to share what she is hearing on Capitol Hill and what pain points still exist to force a deal.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Mychael Schnell, MSNBC
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
Punchbowl: White House: We’re ready for a long shutdown
Politico: Democrats are in a GOP shutdown vise
The Hill: Jeffries, Lawler get into confrontation over ObamaCare: ‘You’re embarrassing yourself’
Fox News: Senate GOP resists 'nuclear option' as Dem shutdown standoff deepens
MSNBC: Private GOP call reveals early fissures over Mike Johnson’s shutdown strategy

Oct 7, 2025 • 50min
Russ Vought’s Power Play Feat. Phil Mattingly
Phil Mattingly, CNN's Chief Domestic Correspondent, delves into the intricate web of government funding negotiations and the impact of OMB director Russ Vought. He reveals how Vought's strategic evolution has aimed at diminishing congressional spending authority over time. The discussion highlights the political calculus behind targeted budget cuts, the administration’s broad interpretation of shutdown powers, and the subtle dynamics between Trump and Vought. Mattingly assesses whether Congress can regain its spending authority amidst the current standoff.

Sep 30, 2025 • 57min
Shutdown Day: Lessons from the 2013 Showdown
With funding set to lapse in just hours, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller discuss if a deal can be reached to avoid a government shutdown – and if not, how leaders will get out of one. Then they are joined by Seven Letter partner Mike Ricci, a top adviser to two GOP speakers, for a trip down memory lane as they revisit the 2013 government shutdown. What was the strategy going into and during the fight? When did things start going off the rails? And what lessons does that experience offer Democrats?
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Mike Ricci
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
AP: Congressional leaders leave White House meeting without deal to avoid government shutdown
NYT: How Congressional Leaders Are Positioning Themselves in the Shutdown Fight
Politico: Johnson urges GOP unity as shutdown deadline nears
WaPo: White House begins plan for mass firings if there’s a government shutdown
WaPo: Government shutdowns high on drama, but low on long-term political impact
AP: A look at previous government shutdowns and how they ended

Sep 23, 2025 • 45min
Deadlines, Deadlocks, and Disarray Feat. Igor Bobic
Republicans and Democrats are gearing up for a shutdown and neither side appears ready to blink. Hosts Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by HuffPost senior reporter Igor Bobic to break down the stalemate. They discuss the strange timeline, compare this debate to past shutdown fights, and question Senator Schumer’s endgame. Plus, will the GOP come to regret changing Senate rules? And will Congress conduct oversight of the FCC in the wake of the Jimmy Kimmel situation?
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Igor Bobic, HuffPost
Producer: Benji Englander
Articles Discussed:
Punchbowl: Both sides dig in as shutdown looms
Politico: Tables turn for Democrats as they use shutdown for leverage
Reuters: Democratic leaders in US Congress demand meeting with Trump as government shutdown looms
Politico: Thune mocks Schumer’s shutdown stance: He ‘knows where my office is’
NBC News: Senate Republicans poke holes in the filibuster despite vowing to protect it
HuffPost: GOP Senators Criticize FCC's Threats Against ABC And Jimmy Kimmel

Sep 16, 2025 • 1h 3min
What is the Democrats' Shutdown Plan? Feat. Joel Payne, MoveOn
After many close calls, is this the time Congress actually shuts down the government? With just two weeks left until funding runs out, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller discuss the state-of-play. Can Speaker Johnson wrangle enough votes again? Will soaring tensions in the Senate scuttle any deal? They also talk about the murder of Charlie Kirk and its impact on the security needs for Members of Congress. Then, Joel Payne – the Chief Communications Officer at MoveOn – joins the show to offer the Democrat perspective on the shutdown fight and share his advice for the path forward for the party.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Gust: Joel Payne, MoveOn
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
Punchbowl: Congress is barreling toward a shutdown
The Hill: House GOP eyes stopgap into November to avert shutdown
POLITICO: Trump to GOP: Vote yes on the ‘clean’ CR
AP: Schumer warns of a shutdown if Republicans don’t accept Democrats’ health care demands
CNN: White House requests $58 million in security funding from Congress following Kirk assassination
NBC News: Senate Republicans trigger 'nuclear option,' changing rules to speed up Trump nominees
POLITICO: MoveOn demands Schumer and Jeffries ‘hold the line’ on health care in shutdown fight

Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 2min
Back from Recess, Staring at a Shutdown Feat. Ali Vitali
After an extended summer break, Congress is back in session with one major item on the to-do list: fund the government. Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller debate the odds of a shutdown and the challenging dynamics facing Senate Minority Leader Schumer. They also discuss the latest with the Epstein case and the impending changes to confirming nominees in the Senate. Then, MSNBC’s Ali Vitali – host of “Way Too Early” and Senior Capitol Hill Correspondent – joins the show to offer her insights on Epstein, a potential shutdown, along with other items capturing the attention of Capitol Hill.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Ali Vitali, MSNBC
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
POLITICO: Congress splinters into unlikely factions over looming government shutdown
Punchbowl: 22 days until the shutdown deadline. Republicans need a plan
Breitbart: Exclusive—Senate Majority Leader John Thune: A Nominations Rules Change Is Coming
The Hill: GOP sets out to fulfill Trump’s wishes on crime bill
POLITICO: House Oversight receives Epstein estate files, including 'birthday book'

Jul 22, 2025 • 55min
Six Months of GOP Control of Washington Feat. Jonathan Martin
Six months into the Trump administration and with Congress headed out for a long summer recess, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by POLITICO’s Jonathan Martin to take stock of where we are and where we might be headed. They cover President Trump’s interest – or lack thereof – in Congressional policy debates, the outlook for appropriations and what will be the defining issue of the midterm elections.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Jonathan Martin, POLITICO
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
New York Times: It Was Supposed to Be ‘Crypto Week’ in Congress. Then It Unraveled.
POLITICO: Russ Vought: Appropriations process ‘has to be less bipartisan’
NBC News: Bipartisan government funding is at risk of dying in Trump's Washington
POLITICO: Democrats seek shutdown strategy as White House plots to strip their power
CNN: Johnson shuts door on House vote before September on releasing Epstein files
POLITICO: How the GOP Regulars Won Over Donald Trump

Jul 15, 2025 • 53min
Is a Shutdown Back on the Table? Feat. Katherine Tully-McManus
Katherine Tully-McManus, a Congressional reporter for Politico focused on budget and appropriations, joins the discussion on the looming government funding deadline. She dissects the contentious rescissions package and the Freedom Caucus's role in potential shutdowns. The conversation touches on Senator Schumer's strategic implications for Democrats, the challenges of passing continuing resolutions, and the ongoing political drama around budget negotiations. Tully-McManus provides insights into the complexities that characterize current fiscal policies in Congress.

Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 6min
Where Does the Freedom Caucus Go from Here? Feat. Matt Fuller
The One Big Beautiful Bill is now law, with the Freedom Caucus again at the center of the drama. Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by Matt Fuller, Congressional Bureau Chief at NOTUS and long-time chronicler of the Freedom Caucus, to discuss the group’s history, recent actions and future moves. Plus, reconciliation “Winners and Losers” and a look ahead to appropriations, rescissions, and a potential Reconciliation 2.0.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Matt Fuller, NOTUS
Producer: Benji Englander
Articles Discussed:
Reuters: In July 4 ceremony, Trump signs tax and spending bill into law
Politico: Inside the Freedom Caucus’ final surrender
New York Times: Jeffries Breaks Record in Hourslong Speech Opposing Trump’s Policy Bill
NOTUS: Celsius, All-Nighters and Stalling Votes: Mike Johnson’s Strategy to Get Members to ‘Yes’
Punchbowl: With OBBB in the rearview, here’s what’s next
NOTUS: Senate Turns Its Attention to DOGE Cuts — With the Clock Ticking

Jul 1, 2025 • 34min
The Megabill’s Moment of Truth Feat. Eleanor Mueller
As House and Senate leaders continue to move the One Big Beautiful Bill forward, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller break down the latest developments in Congress. They offer their reactions to Senator Tillis’ retirement announcement, forecast how both the Freedom Caucus and moderates may react to the changes put in the bill by the Senate, and wonder what the point of a vote-a-rama is. At the end, Semafor’s Eleanor Mueller shares what she’s hearing on Capitol Hill.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Eleanor Mueller, Semafor
Producer: Benji Englander
Articles Discussed:
NBC News: GOP Sen. Thom Tillis won't seek re-election in North Carolina after drawing Trump's ire
Politico: GOP fight over clean energy threatens to derail megabill
Fox News: Trump's 'big, beautiful bill' hits another snag in House as conservative caucus raises red flag
Politico: Anxious House Republicans scramble to forestall Senate’s Medicaid cuts
ABC News: Polls show Americans largely oppose Trump's 'One Big Beautiful Bill,' but are more split on Medicaid, immigration specifics
Semafor: The wild-card fiscal hawk who may turn from ‘no’ to ‘yes’ on Trump’s megabill