

CONTROL
Seven Letter
CONTROL is a podcast hosted by Seven Letter’s Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller, two veterans of Capitol Hill who now serve as communications strategists to Fortune 500 companies, non-profits and advocacy coalitions. Drawing on their experience in GOP congressional politics, the podcast seeks to look around the corner at the policy priorities and political dynamics that will define Congress.
The podcast series talks to experts who know the institution and helps explain the challenges and opportunities facing a divided Congress. Guests include subject-matter experts, journalists, former lawmakers, and political operatives, all with a keen insight into what is next for Washington. With Season 2 of CONTROL, you can expect a new episode every Tuesday when Congress is in session.
The podcast series talks to experts who know the institution and helps explain the challenges and opportunities facing a divided Congress. Guests include subject-matter experts, journalists, former lawmakers, and political operatives, all with a keen insight into what is next for Washington. With Season 2 of CONTROL, you can expect a new episode every Tuesday when Congress is in session.
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Nov 4, 2025 • 58min
When Washington Stops Working Feat. Carl Hulse
Congress has a set a record with the longest government shutdown in history. As talks pick up, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller wonder if this is the week a deal emerges. Then, the hosts take a step back with the help of Carl Hulse, the New York Times’ Chief Washington Correspondent, to examine the broader dynamics shaping action on Capitol Hill. What has differentiated this shutdown from past fights? Is the current dysfunction reversible? Can lawmakers reassert their authority? Is the filibuster doomed? All that and more only on CONTROL.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Carl Hulse, New York Times
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
Roll Call: Bipartisan talks to end shutdown gaining steam, senators say
Politico: John Thune says he is ‘optimistic’ Senate will move to end shutdown this week
Politico: ‘Utterly shameful’: Congress to crush US record this week for longest shutdown
Fox News: Sen. John Thune slams Democrats in fiery floor speech: ‘This isn’t a political game’
Axios: Senator objects to leaving D.C. for long weekend as SNAP benefits run dry
The Hill: Democrats up 8 points on generic ballot: Survey
NYT: Shutdowns, Obamacare and the Risks of Bargaining for Policy Wins in a Crisis
NYT: What Is the Filibuster and Why Does Trump Want It Gone?

Oct 28, 2025 • 46min
Nowhere on Shutdown, Nowhere on Appropriations Feat. Samantha Handler
As the government shutdown drags on, negotiations on the appropriations bills have taken a backseat. Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by Punchbowl News’ Samantha Handler to learn what has been going on behind the scenes. How far apart are the House and Senate? Why have defense hawks gone quiet? And is a deal even possible or are we headed for another CR?
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Samantha Handler, Punchbowl News
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
AP: Senate rejects bills to pay federal workers during government shutdown
Punchbowl News: Thune skeptical of ‘rifle-shot’ bills
NBC News: Largest federal workers union calls for an end to the shutdown, putting pressure on Democrats
Punchbowl News: Washington begins to confront the funding unthinkable
Roll Call: Appropriations chairman bullish on full-year spending bills after shutdown
Boston Globe: Susan Collins has reached one of the most powerful positions in Washington. It could hardly come at a worse time.

Oct 21, 2025 • 44min
A House GOPer’s Perspective on the Shutdown Feat. Rep. Kevin Kiley
This week Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by GOP Representative Kevin Kiley (CA-03) to hear his perspective on the ongoing shutdown. The Congressman discusses why he continues showing up to Capitol Hill, his problems with Speaker Johnson’s decision to keep the House away, and why he still believes in public service.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Rep. Kevin Kiley
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
The Hill: Thune: Time to think about House returning to DC to vote on government funding
NBC News: Democrats rally at No Kings to protest Trump — but many say they're also unhappy with their own party
WaPo: Senate blocks military spending bill as shutdown drags on
New York Times: The Lonely House Republican Still Coming to Work During the Shutdown
WBUR: Why Republican Rep. Kevin Kiley wants to stop the national fight over redistricting

Oct 14, 2025 • 46min
How Does the Shutdown End? Feat. Mychael Schnell
How Does the Shutdown End? Feat. Mychael Schnell
With the government shutdown dragging on into another week, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller discuss how Congress got to this point and what may break the stalemate. Then, MSNBC congressional reporter Mychael Schnell joins the show to share what she is hearing on Capitol Hill and what pain points still exist to force a deal.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Mychael Schnell, MSNBC
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
Punchbowl: White House: We’re ready for a long shutdown
Politico: Democrats are in a GOP shutdown vise
The Hill: Jeffries, Lawler get into confrontation over ObamaCare: ‘You’re embarrassing yourself’
Fox News: Senate GOP resists 'nuclear option' as Dem shutdown standoff deepens
MSNBC: Private GOP call reveals early fissures over Mike Johnson’s shutdown strategy

Oct 7, 2025 • 50min
Russ Vought’s Power Play Feat. Phil Mattingly
Phil Mattingly, CNN's Chief Domestic Correspondent, delves into the intricate web of government funding negotiations and the impact of OMB director Russ Vought. He reveals how Vought's strategic evolution has aimed at diminishing congressional spending authority over time. The discussion highlights the political calculus behind targeted budget cuts, the administration’s broad interpretation of shutdown powers, and the subtle dynamics between Trump and Vought. Mattingly assesses whether Congress can regain its spending authority amidst the current standoff.

Sep 30, 2025 • 57min
Shutdown Day: Lessons from the 2013 Showdown
With funding set to lapse in just hours, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller discuss if a deal can be reached to avoid a government shutdown – and if not, how leaders will get out of one. Then they are joined by Seven Letter partner Mike Ricci, a top adviser to two GOP speakers, for a trip down memory lane as they revisit the 2013 government shutdown. What was the strategy going into and during the fight? When did things start going off the rails? And what lessons does that experience offer Democrats?
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Mike Ricci
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
AP: Congressional leaders leave White House meeting without deal to avoid government shutdown
NYT: How Congressional Leaders Are Positioning Themselves in the Shutdown Fight
Politico: Johnson urges GOP unity as shutdown deadline nears
WaPo: White House begins plan for mass firings if there’s a government shutdown
WaPo: Government shutdowns high on drama, but low on long-term political impact
AP: A look at previous government shutdowns and how they ended

Sep 23, 2025 • 45min
Deadlines, Deadlocks, and Disarray Feat. Igor Bobic
Republicans and Democrats are gearing up for a shutdown and neither side appears ready to blink. Hosts Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by HuffPost senior reporter Igor Bobic to break down the stalemate. They discuss the strange timeline, compare this debate to past shutdown fights, and question Senator Schumer’s endgame. Plus, will the GOP come to regret changing Senate rules? And will Congress conduct oversight of the FCC in the wake of the Jimmy Kimmel situation?
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Igor Bobic, HuffPost
Producer: Benji Englander
Articles Discussed:
Punchbowl: Both sides dig in as shutdown looms
Politico: Tables turn for Democrats as they use shutdown for leverage
Reuters: Democratic leaders in US Congress demand meeting with Trump as government shutdown looms
Politico: Thune mocks Schumer’s shutdown stance: He ‘knows where my office is’
NBC News: Senate Republicans poke holes in the filibuster despite vowing to protect it
HuffPost: GOP Senators Criticize FCC's Threats Against ABC And Jimmy Kimmel

Sep 16, 2025 • 1h 3min
What is the Democrats' Shutdown Plan? Feat. Joel Payne, MoveOn
After many close calls, is this the time Congress actually shuts down the government? With just two weeks left until funding runs out, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller discuss the state-of-play. Can Speaker Johnson wrangle enough votes again? Will soaring tensions in the Senate scuttle any deal? They also talk about the murder of Charlie Kirk and its impact on the security needs for Members of Congress. Then, Joel Payne – the Chief Communications Officer at MoveOn – joins the show to offer the Democrat perspective on the shutdown fight and share his advice for the path forward for the party.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Gust: Joel Payne, MoveOn
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
Punchbowl: Congress is barreling toward a shutdown
The Hill: House GOP eyes stopgap into November to avert shutdown
POLITICO: Trump to GOP: Vote yes on the ‘clean’ CR
AP: Schumer warns of a shutdown if Republicans don’t accept Democrats’ health care demands
CNN: White House requests $58 million in security funding from Congress following Kirk assassination
NBC News: Senate Republicans trigger 'nuclear option,' changing rules to speed up Trump nominees
POLITICO: MoveOn demands Schumer and Jeffries ‘hold the line’ on health care in shutdown fight

Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 2min
Back from Recess, Staring at a Shutdown Feat. Ali Vitali
After an extended summer break, Congress is back in session with one major item on the to-do list: fund the government. Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller debate the odds of a shutdown and the challenging dynamics facing Senate Minority Leader Schumer. They also discuss the latest with the Epstein case and the impending changes to confirming nominees in the Senate. Then, MSNBC’s Ali Vitali – host of “Way Too Early” and Senior Capitol Hill Correspondent – joins the show to offer her insights on Epstein, a potential shutdown, along with other items capturing the attention of Capitol Hill.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Ali Vitali, MSNBC
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
POLITICO: Congress splinters into unlikely factions over looming government shutdown
Punchbowl: 22 days until the shutdown deadline. Republicans need a plan
Breitbart: Exclusive—Senate Majority Leader John Thune: A Nominations Rules Change Is Coming
The Hill: GOP sets out to fulfill Trump’s wishes on crime bill
POLITICO: House Oversight receives Epstein estate files, including 'birthday book'

Jul 22, 2025 • 55min
Six Months of GOP Control of Washington Feat. Jonathan Martin
Six months into the Trump administration and with Congress headed out for a long summer recess, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller are joined by POLITICO’s Jonathan Martin to take stock of where we are and where we might be headed. They cover President Trump’s interest – or lack thereof – in Congressional policy debates, the outlook for appropriations and what will be the defining issue of the midterm elections.
Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller
Guest: Jonathan Martin, POLITICO
Audio Producer: Benji Englander
Video Producer: Regina Anderson
Articles Discussed:
New York Times: It Was Supposed to Be ‘Crypto Week’ in Congress. Then It Unraveled.
POLITICO: Russ Vought: Appropriations process ‘has to be less bipartisan’
NBC News: Bipartisan government funding is at risk of dying in Trump's Washington
POLITICO: Democrats seek shutdown strategy as White House plots to strip their power
CNN: Johnson shuts door on House vote before September on releasing Epstein files
POLITICO: How the GOP Regulars Won Over Donald Trump


