Mormon Discussion Podcast

Doing this podcast and being a public voice, people reach out to you to share “secret” information.  Today I tell you what I am hearing from inside the Church Office Building is being discussed in regard to future changes.  I also share a deeply unhealthy story of how the Church allegedly informed Kem Gardner with inside information about how City Creek Mall was going to diminish the value of his Gateway project and how Kem thanked the Church by alledgedly gifting a impressive piece of property to the Church and specifically Elder Uchtdorf. Below are the predictions I am making based on those inside sources and the story line of the alledged details of City Creek versus the Gateway Project   City Creek Mall Story * Gateway Project starts around 2002 and includes a state of the art Mall. This project is headed up by the Boyer Group headed up by Roger Boyer and Kem Gardner * The Church purchases the land for City creek Mall in 2003 by a private real estate arm of the Church. * The Church allegedly informs Kem Gardner out of respect for their relationship that he should consider getting out of the Gateway Project as its value is going to be diminished. * In 2004 Kem Gardner sells his interest in the Boyer Group allegedly for 43 Million dollars * In 2006 The Church announces is City Creek project * The Church allegedly gets push-back from Nordstrom’s and other Anchor stores it needs for City Creek to be a success and seeing the writing on the wall regarding City Creek falling flat on their face, rushes in and offers Nordstrom’s and other Anchor stores an incredible deal to lure them in. Allegedly the deal was the first 10 years of the lease of space in City Creek Mall would be free and the employees who worked at that store would have their wages paid for 3 years. * Kem Gardner allegedly grateful for the information, allegedly gifts a upscale log cabin to the Church, specifically, Elder Dieter F Uchtdorf for a reported price of $1 Changes allegedly being discussed at present inside the Church Office Building These changes are being discussed which means some will happen and some won’t.  Some will likely happen in the next year or two and others will trickle in over the next decade or two.  Also simply discussing these compels the Church to push them back 1. Church trying to make room for members to partake of Coffee and Tea 2. Having the Garment worn inside the temple only 3. To revamp the Missionary system making Service Missions and/or Local Missions prominent 4.  Decentralize the financial responsibilities of the Church geographically. 5. Women will be given significant increased roles (Women giving blessings to be formally seen as approved), recent change for Mothers of Young Children to serve as ordinance workers for example of a small change heading that direction. 6. Increase dramatically in visible charitable giving to outside charities and outside humanitarian efforts 7. Changes to the office/mode of operation of Patriarch being discussed 8. Heavenly Mother will be given a significantly increased role in the conversation and theology within correlated Mormonism. 9.  Significant changes made to ensure Bishops and Stake Presidents receive significant training. (Anything from multiple weeks of in-depth training to even a full-time trained clergy in regards to Bishops and Stake Presidents) 10.  RS General Presidency continually has its visibility increased and effort made to add value to their voices and the voice of women.  (while maintaining the top 15’s own authority and nepotism to ultimately lead the Church) 11.  Create a group of women that would act similarly to the quorums of Seventy (travel and be involved in committees and have a voice in decision making at levels lower than the top 15) 12. Age for women going on missions to be lowered to 18 as well or men moved back up to 19 to make them equal in this regard. 13.  Separate Marriages from Sealing to allow a couple to be married publicly and sealed immediately afterward in a separate act. 14.  Additional Policy adjustments to protect the Church’s public image in Sex abuse cases. 15.  I was missing a #15 in the audio but will add it here – Your going to see further adjustments to the scriptures to remove sections of language from the D&C, heading etc. and or add in language to headings ect. to confront the growing evidence against the former claims of the Church and a growing discomfort with our overreaching. 16.  The Ward Library and the calling of Librarian eliminated in areas that have quality access to technology. 17.  Adjust callings that have room to not require Priesthood to allow for female leadership (Ex: Sunday School Presidency) 18.  Do away with or control who speaks in Fast and Testimony Meeting 19. Allow equivalent aged Girls to pass the Sacrament where the congregation lacks adequate priesthood. 20.  Remove multiple cultural boundaries imposed as Mormonism but which are acknowledged as American culture and unnecessary.  (Ex: allowing a wider range of instruments used in Church meetings) 21.  A New Handbook of instruction is coming 22.  Temple Recommend bar-codes will be connected to a photo so the uses of recommends by someone other than who the recommend belongs to can be thwarted. 23.  Young Adult/Older Teen service Projects away from home that give a young member a significant experience making the world better but also connected directly to the Church.  A mini service mission per say 24.  There are now concrete discussions occurring asking how we move towards more inclusivity towards LGBTQ members. The post Mormon Discussion: 329: Take Your Vitamin Pills and Get Some Rest appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

We sit down with Jim Bennett, son of former Utah Senator Bob Bennett, to discuss Jim’s response to the CES Letter. This interview takes place over several different days and comprises looking at the troublesome issues the CES Letter presents and reviewing where Jeremy Runnells and Jim Bennett disagree. I try to play a mediator between Jim and the ideas of the CES letter. Granting ground where I think Jim offers a reasonable response as well as pushing back where I think the CES Letter presents a credible case. In part 6 we tackle the Prophetic Mantle including the lack of Prophesy, Seer-ship, and Revelation, The Church lack’s of wisdom and Vulnerability, and the significant harm it does with little willingness to be open to admitting its wrong. We also tackle whether Priesthood power has any measurable influence. We lastly speak on Spiritual witnesses and whether they are a reasonable way to decide truth when compared with our fundamentalist splinter group cousins and their experiences and the spiritual experiences the rest of the world is having. The post Jim Bennett and Bill Reel and the Issues of the CES Letter Part 6 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

  We sit down with Jim Bennett, son of former Utah Senator Bob Bennett, to discuss Jim’s response to the CES Letter. This interview takes place over several different days and comprises looking at the troublesome issues the CES Letter presents and reviewing where Jeremy Runnells and Jim Bennett disagree. I try to play a mediator between Jim and the ideas of the CES letter. Granting ground where I think Jim offers a reasonable response as well as pushing back where I think the CES Letter presents a credible case. In part 5 we tackle Race and the Priesthood, The Church’s changing stance and present Doctrine and policies on Homosexuality and LGBT issues, and end beginning to get into the Prophetic mantle of LDS Prophets, Seers, and Revelators.  The post Jim Bennett and Bill Reel and the Issues of the CES Letter Part 5 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

  We sit down with Jim Bennett, son of former Utah Senator Bob Bennett, to discuss Jim’s response to the CES Letter. This interview takes place over several different days and comprises looking at the troublesome issues the CES Letter presents and reviewing where Jeremy Runnells and Jim Bennett disagree. I try to play a mediator between Jim and the ideas of the CES letter. Granting ground where I think Jim offers a reasonable response as well as pushing back where I think the CES Letter presents a credible case. In part 4 we tackle Joseph Smith’s Polygamy in depth.  The post Jim Bennett and Bill Reel and the Issues of the CES Letter Part 4 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

  We sit down with Jim Bennett, son of former Utah Senator Bob Bennett, to discuss Jim’s response to the CES Letter. This interview takes place over several different days and comprises looking at the troublesome issues the CES Letter presents and reviewing where Jeremy Runnells and Jim Bennett disagree. I try to play a mediator between Jim and the ideas of the CES letter. Granting ground where I think Jim offers a reasonable response as well as pushing back where I think the CES Letter presents a credible case. In part 3 we tackle The Book of Abraham and begin to get into Joseph Smith’s Polygamy.  The post Jim Bennett and Bill Reel and the Issues of the CES Letter Part 3 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

We sit down with Jim Bennett, son of former Utah Senator Bob Bennett, to discuss Jim’s response to the CES Letter. This interview takes place over several different days and comprises looking at the troublesome issues the CES Letter presents and reviewing where Jeremy Runnells and Jim Bennett disagree. I try to play a mediator between Jim and the ideas of the CES letter. Granting ground where I think Jim offers a reasonable response as well as pushing back where I think the CES Letter presents a credible case. In part 2 we tackle other issues in the Book of Mormon including the presence of 19th century material in all of Joseph translation productions, the 11 witnesses, and anachronisms. We then start to get into the Book of Abraham and touch on ideas like Prophetic fallibility and Spiritual witness, topics we hope to dive into deeper as we continue the conversation. The post Jim Bennett and Bill Reel and the Issues of the CES Letter Part 2 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

We sit down with Jim Bennett, son of former Utah Senator Bob Bennett, to discuss Jim’s response to the CES Letter. This interview takes place over several different days and comprises looking at the troublesome issues the CES Letter presents and reviewing where Jeremy Runnells and Jim Bennett disagree. I try to play a mediator between Jim and the ideas of the CES letter. Granting ground where I think Jim offers a reasonable response as well as pushing back where I think the CES Letter presents a credible case. In part 1 Jim gives us a history of him and his father and the why of his response to Jeremy Runnells CES Letter. We then tackle Joseph Smith’s Treasure Digging, The First Vision, and begin to get into the multiple aspects of the Book of Mormon including Translation and the level of absurdity in some of the narrative’s stories. The post Jim Bennett and Bill Reel and the Issues of the CES Letter Part 1 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Today we dissect Elder Pearson’s talk “Will You Leave The Savior“(Ensign August 2018) that he gave at BYU Idaho (Originally titled “The Lens of Truth“).  In this talk there are so many logical fallacies, Wood Tools, and problematic assertions that It took little effort to dissect and expose this talk as unhealthy and not useful to a sincere truth seeker. May you enjoy!!! The post Mormon Discussion: 322: Elder Pearson – Will You Leave The Savior appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Today we dissect Elder Holland’s November 10, 2018 address directly to the Maxwell Institute. It seemed very much like a rebuke an an effort to embarrass those at the Maxwell Institute for moving towards objectivity and forthrightness and emphasizing real scholarship over defensive apologetics. It even includes encouragement from Elder Holland to choose faithful renditions over objective scholarship and a with-holding of the full story when one’s loyalty calls for it…. who would of thunk it!!! The post Mormon Discussion: 321: Elder Holland and The Maxwell Institute appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Today we sit down with Troy Marsh and his wife Shari.  Troy is a listener of Mormon Discussion and an active Latter Day Saint who finds trying to reconcile the messiness of Mormonism as a wasted cause.  By no means is he a Orthodox Mormon.  In fact he would openly acknowledge that Mormonism is only one path among a million paths for a viable spirituality.  In other words that Mormonism is not seen by him as the only true Church but rather as a tool among many tools a human being could utilize to form their spiritual walk.  Shari on the other hand has never been Mormon and share what that walk looks like outside of Mormonism.  In this episode we discuss the spirituality of the African Kalahari Bushman, discuss the pros and cons of using Mormonism as a tool rather than the as the Lord’s one true path, and we discuss that truth which can not be named. RESOURCES: Bushman Way of Tracking God PDF  Bushman Way of Tracking God Book Keeney’s American Shamanism Video of Bushman Spirituality Joseph Hart Spiritual Autobiography   The post 320: Troy and Shari Marsh – The Truth That Can’t Be Said appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.