Mormon Discussion Podcast

Join us as we explore the intriguing viewpoints of Professor Thomas Wayment and podcaster Rick Bennett, who present perspectives that deviate from past LDS theology regarding the King James Bible (KJV) and the Joseph Smith Translation (JST). We analyze their claims, examining the ways in which their perspectives challenge traditional understandings of these revered texts within the context of Latter-Day Saint belief. Through this exploration, we uncover the complex interplay between scholarship, personal interpretations, and the evolving landscape of Mormon theology. RESOURCES: https://youtu.be/L6kkhSHX4Ok https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/king-james-bible-400-years  https://rsc.byu.edu/king-james-bible-restoration/latter-day-saint-edition-king-james-bible  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Mormon_and_the_King_James_Bible  https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1992/08/news-of-the-church/first-presidency-statement-on-the-king-james-version-of-the-bible?lang=eng  https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible_(JST)  https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/why-the-king-james-version-from-the-common-to-the-official-bible-of-mormonism/  https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Bible https://rsc.byu.edu/sites/default/files/pub_content/pdf/38%20The%20King%20James%20Translation%20of%20the%20New%20Testament.pdf  https://youtu.be/LyhV-E79ccc?t=158  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyhV-E79ccc&t=410s https://rsc.byu.edu/book/joseph-smith-translation https://rsc.byu.edu/how-new-testament-came-be/adding-taking-away-without-cause-matthew-522 https://rsc.byu.edu/joseph-smith-translation/doctrinal-restoration  https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V22N02_21.pdf  https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V36N01_171.pdf  The clips from this show were used from The Gospel Tangents Podcast Episode titled“Thomas Wayment Responds to Adam Clarke Controversy (1 of 2)” https://gospeltangents.com/2023/05/thomas-wayment-adam-clarke/ ___________________ Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=m Take a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/ mormondiscussions Sign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4P Our Platforms: MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.org Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841 Connect on Social Media: Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835 Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussion Discord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF https://twitter.com/MormonDisc Contact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com #MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormon Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. ___________________ The post KJV & JST – The Devaluing of Mormon Scripture and Translation: ML: 135 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Mormon Polygamy Nightmare: Mormonism Live: 134 Nightmares are scary and some nightmares are real. In this gripping episode of Mormonism LIVE, we delve into the extraordinary journey of a woman who lived within a Mormon polygamous relationship. Through an intimate and eye-opening interview, she shares her harrowing experiences, the challenges she faced, and the inspiring story of her escape from the clutches of polygamy As the conversation unfolds, listeners are transported into the center of a polygamous family that is shrouded in secrecy and patriarchal dominance. We delve into the origins of her involvement in the polygamous relationship, exploring how religious beliefs were exploited to justify the practice and perpetuate control over women. Tune in to this riveting episode and join us on an emotional and enlightening journey as we unveil the shadows that hide behind closed doors, empower survivors, and shed light on the resilience of the human spirit. Chapters: 03:15 Meet “Abby” 04:15 The hunt for a straight, single man leads to…Mormonism? 11:30 “the Lord wants us in Las Vegas” 14:30 Becoming bored with Mormonism 28:25 Hunting for new wives 34:15 “What is going through your head?” 37:00 Abby’s husband “earns” his 2nd anointing but Abby refuses 42:00 Trying to bring home Filipina wife 45:15 Cancer diagnosis & death 57:30 21 minutes and 23 seconds () 01:02:00 Abby finally starts looks 01:03:00 Mormonism LIVE is the final straw 01:06:05 Lessons learned 01:21:15 Live calls Mormonism LIVE & the Occult: https://youtube.com/live/ULG2Uk3ggDg ___________________ Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=m Take a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussions Sign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4P Our Platforms: MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.org Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841 Connect on Social Media: Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835 Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussion Discord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF https://twitter.com/MormonDisc Contact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com #MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormon Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The post Mormon Polygamy Nightmare: ML: 134 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

On this Episode of Mormon Discussion we lay out the Smoking Gun that imposes that Polygamy be placed at the feet of joseph Smith For those doing research the following resources will allow you to trace my steps PDF used for the Show – https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/Smoking-Gun-Land-Deeds.pdf Document containing all the research https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/All-Women-Deeded-Land-Alone.pdf This site contains tons of data on these folks and the deeds https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1388212?availability=Family%20History%20Library Contents: v. 1. A-B http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/298595 v. 2. C-F  http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/325241 v. 3. G-J http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/321604 v. 4. K-M http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/324755 v. 5. N-R http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/325125 v. 6. S http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/296259 v. 7. T-Z. http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/532853 The post The Smoking Gun That Joseph Smith Practiced Polygamy: MD: 388 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

The Mormonism Live crew takes a much needed break for June 21st being joined by upcoming “Mormon” comedian Ben Brown known as “The Fresh King Benjamin”. Ben’s humor deeply connects to his own journey in and deconstruction of fundamentalist Mormonism and the episode is sure to be an enjoyable entertaining evening. Ben’s Stand Up: https://youtu.be/XBx5g6FOEaM Ben’s Insta:https://www.instagram.com/thefreshkingbenjamin/ Ben’s Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefreshkingbenjamin Ben’s website: https://www.thefreshkingbenjamin.com/ Support Ben’s charity for families leaving polygamy: https://cherishfamilies.org/get-involved/donate.html Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=m Take a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussions Sign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4P Our Platforms: MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.org Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841 Connect on Social Media: Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835 Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussion Discord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF https://twitter.com/MormonDisc Contact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com #MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormon Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The post Mormonism Live: 133: The Fresh King Benjamin ( @thefreshkingbenjamin ) appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Bill Reel and Gabe go for round 2 of looking at the nature of reality. They look at various models of seeing the world, check in on Modern Science such as Quantum Physics, and share insights from their own learning and experience to investigate if the world we all believe we are seeing is in fact reality. The post What Can We Say About the Nature Of Reality: Mormon Discussion: 387 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Dan Vogel sits down with RFM & Bill not only to talk about his new book “Charisma under Pressure: Joseph Smith, American Prophet, 1831–1839” but to also flesh out some of the incredible ideas in his recent YouTube video “Joseph Smith, the Necromancer”.RESOURCES:Twilit Grotto — Esoteric Archives – esotericarchives.com/Old Bountiful Museum – World of Urban Legends – worldofurbanlegends.com/old-bountiful-museum/Oracles and Talismans, Forgery and Pansophia: Joseph Smith. Jr. as a Renaissance Magus – General Discussions – Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board – mormondialogue.org/topic/69738-oracles-and-talismans-forgery-and-pansophia-joseph-smith-jr-as-a-renaissance-magus/Wilford C. Wood – Mormonism, The Mormon Church, Beliefs, & Religion – MormonWiki – mormonwiki.com/Wilford_C._WoodA-Man-of-Vision-and-Determination-A-Photographic-Essay-and-Tribute-to-Wilford-C.-Wood.pdf (ensignpeakfoundation.org) – ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/A-Man-of-Vision-and-Determination-A-Photographic-Essay-and-Tribute-to-Wilford-C.-Wood.pdfStory behind Joseph and Hyrum Death Masks – Joseph Smith Jr and Emma Hale Smith Historical Society – josephsmithjr.org/joseph-and-hyrum-death-masks/Framing a 17th Century Work on Parchment – Bark Frameworks – The post Mormon Magic Parchments: Mormonism LIVE: 132 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

There is a raging debate within Mormon circles where those folks who are determined to maintain belief in the Prophet Joseph Smith but who abhor polygamy and the Church as ran by Brigham Young and after have found ways to dismiss the standard evidence that Mormonism’s founder was a polygamist. They interpret the evidence as made up by Brigham Young and those around him in an effort to draw Joseph Smith into a practice he never participated in. Stories of fabricating history, backdating prophesy, and discrediting witnesses. On this week’s episode Bill & RFM with a few friends take a look at the evidence and to see if one has compelling reasons to believe Joseph Smith was, in fact, a polygamist! MAIN CONCLUSIONS DRAWN FROM REASON 1.) Clayton Journal Entries can be shown to be reliable 2.) D&C 132 is shown to be reliable as the text of the revelation that Smith received 3.) There is substantial Evidence that imposes that Smith originated and perpetuated Polygamy 4.) Hyrum Smith read the revelation in a High Council Meeting and Joseph and Hyrum tried to excuse the revelation away in the Nauvoo City Council but not a the way that allows Polygamy deniers to impose a narrative of “Eternity Only Sealings” or “Dynastic Sealings”. Hence they must confront why Hyrum and Joseph don’t respond using the narrative they have created. 5.) That any attempt to explain Joseph’s practice as “eternal only” and not time is irrational in light of Hyrum and Joseph’s attempt to walk back the doctrine/revelation of plural marriage by explaining it was in regards to former times and had nothing to do with the present. In other words Dynastic Sealings or relationships in the hereafter that are not binding or sexual in this life is not going to strike fear and anger and rebelliousness in Emma, along with pushback and resentment in Marks, Cowles, and Soby and can be explained without embarrassment. But when Joseph and Hyrum tip their hand by making the excuse that this revelation is about former times and not the present, we can rationally conclude this wasn’t eternal only or dynastic relationships that lacked sex or marriage in this life.(While we didn’t show it, Orange Wight’s autobiography also imposes that Smith had Flora Woodworth as a wife and he was notified that because of such, she was taken. Hence this wasn’t a eternity only relationship.) If you want to see the documents and the notes about what these documents show. Check out the three part Reddit Posts on the topic.. Part 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/144aaam/the_evidence_laid_out_that_joseph_smith_was_the/ Part 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/144ahjo/the_evidence_laid_out_that_joseph_smith_was_the/ Part 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/144aqlr/the_evidence_laid_out_that_joseph_smith_was_the/ RESOURCES: https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of-polygamy/episode-94-polygamy-controversies-joseph-fought-polygamy/ https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of-polygamy/episode-139-joseph-didnt-fight-polygamy-part-one/ https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/uncategorized/episode-139-joseph-didnt-fight-polygamy-part-two/  https://sunstone.org/e41-brigham-young-and-the-chamber-of-secrets/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQwyhhFczU   https://www.jstor.org/stable/24243807 This link has the url’s for the Land Deeds of Joseph’s plural wives https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/y90sbz/joseph_smith_acted_unethically_giving_away_church/  https://archive.org/details/history-of-the-saints-1842-john-c-bennett/page/n9/mode/2up?view=theater  – John C Bennett History of the Saints http://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100526.pdf Nauvoo Expositor Joseph F. Smith Affidavits – http://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/JS0361.doc https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/MMD/id/59430/rec/1 – Clayton Diary https://archive.org/details/WilliamClaytonJournal/page/n13/mode/2up – Clayton  page 106 search for plural https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-from-oliver-cowdery-21-january-1838/1 Cowdery to his brother https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/281385.William_Clayton  https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132?lang=eng  https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/281385.William_Clayton  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/record/915fc5f1-4f65-4131-800a-4eaee3604f3c/37a65922-1a7e-4e6c-9e5b-fa5104b53cbe?view=browse  – affidavits  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUtmzt3fJc&t=1193s&pp=ygUQaGFwcGluZXNzIGxldHRlcg%3D%3D  – Happiness Letter Examination https://www.jstor.org/stable/43200169   – “Illicit Intercourse,” Plural Marriage, and the Nauvoo Stake High Council, 1840-1844 Gary James Bergera https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revelation-12-july-1843-dc-132/1#historical-intro – Kingsbury 132 Revelation https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/187/oa_monograph/chapter/201655/pdf  – Junius and Joseph https://www.jstor.org/stable/43200716 – The Changing RLDS Response to Mormon Polygamy: A Preliminary Analysis Richard P. Howard https://www.jstor.org/stable/40193596 – Buckeye’s Laments: Two Early Insider Exposés of Mormon Polygamy and Their Authorship Gary James Bergera  https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Joseph-Smith%E2%80%99s-Plural-Wives-after-the-Martyrdom.pdf  https://www.reluctantpolygamist.com/reluctant-polygamist/revealing-the-doctrine-1843-1844/20-revealing-the-revelation/#_edn11  http://boap.org/LDS/Nauvoo-Neighbor/1844/6-19-1844.pdf  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/7226d36f-b3a5-4c0e-9d0c-33d87d46ffb4/0/3?lang=eng  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/be940fbd-8fff-410f-b022-bb18d2d8f63c/0/0?lang=eng  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/c6746061-f36c-46ed-8961-03f8c2369d5d/0/85?lang=eng  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/e8b138df-18a0-46d8-be8a-0b06292a0795/0/0?lang=eng  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/e7896b07-224e-4dd8-8790-b7f995838c46/0/13  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/a51f8c5d-45c3-47c5-aad4-be3f363dfca9/0/0?lang=eng  https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-december-1842-june-1844-book-2-10-march-1843-14-july-1843/263#x921FC028-A4C0-44AF-B35A-EFF029AA3868  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/50c87119-ed1d-4492-b6ff-f60b3e1ac976/0/0?lang=eng  https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/Lucy-Walker-Marriage-Document.pdf  https://lifecanbesilly.blogspot.com/2018/09/martha-brotherton-affidavit-polygamy.html  https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/5e60e513-bfaa-4619-908c-4c4ac7b8b6b7/0/0?lang=eng  https://myallredfamily.com/front-page/what-states/utah/family-histories/james-allred-by-j-terry-walker/  https://familypedia.fandom.com/wiki/David_Fullmer_(1803-1879) http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/HCoray.html. https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/polygamy-proposals  The post The Evidence that Joseph Smith was a Polygamist: ML: 131 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Bill Reel and Gabe take a long look at the nature of reality.  They look at various models of seeing the world, check in on Modern Science such as Quantum Physics, and share insights from their own learning and experience to investigate if the world we all believe we are seeing is in fact reality. The post What Can We Say About the Nature Of Reality: MD: 386 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

A former seminary teacher got the opportunity to present lots of his questions to the Church Historian recently. Wait till you hear what happened! RESOURCES: Transcript – http://radiofreemormon.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/ELDER-BALLARD-BLOWS-UP-THE-CHURCH-TRANSCRIPT.pdf Episode – https://radiofreemormon.org/2017/11/radio-free-mormon-021-elder-ballard-blows-church/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/prophets-and-fallibility/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/the-mormon-truth-crisis/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/the-mormon-paradox/ Joe’s Document “In Defense of Doubt” – https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/In-Defense-of-Doubt-Final.pdf Elder McKay’s Letter back to him – https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/Elder-McKays-Letter.pdf The post Seminary Teacher Schools Church Historian: Mormonism Live: 130 appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Rarely in Mormonism do people in disagreement sit down to enter conversations about the issues upon which they disagree with understanding and healthy dialogue being at the forefront. But LDS Faithful believer Jacob Hansen and Ex-Mormon atheist Bill Reel sit down to discuss a Mormon Testimony, how one could arrive at a LDS Testimony, and how one derives confidence in it. The goal of this conversation as well as any that may follow or come before is to create a space where both parties seek to best understand the other’s point of view and to have a safe space to add clarity and context to one’s perspective to ensure as little misunderstanding as possible. The hope is that these conversations give listeners a well rounded view of controversial issues so that they might be able to work out their own thoughts, beliefs, and perspectives in a safe environment and to show both sides that healthy disagreement can in fact happen. Jacob Hansen Bio: Jacob is a Life long member of the LDS Church (His Mom is a convert) He served a mission in Argentina 2005-2007 Jacob graduated at BYU Hawaii with a Business Degree He is a Podcaster, Youtuber, Blogger He is the only one of his 8 siblings still active in the church. He has served primarily in the young men’s organization in his ward for the past 10 years including recently serving as 2nd and then 1st counselor in ward bishopric. Primary interests: Philosophy, History, Religion, Sailing, Surfing, JiuJitsu, Hunting, Adventures. He married his college sweetheart in 2010 and they have 4 kids. Bill Reel bio: Bill was a convert to the LDS Church at 17 years old. He served as a Bishop in that same ward from the age of 29 to 34. While a sitting Bishop, Bill had a faith crisis and began deconstructing his beliefs going so far as to deconstruct Christ and God. While Bill is satisfied with the label of Atheist he also considers himself a mystic and drawn to secular Buddhism. Bill is the Executive Director for the Non-Profit Mormon Discussion Inc and host/co-hosts several podcasts including Mormonism LIVE and the Almost Awakened Podcast. Bill and his wife have been married 25 years and they have 4 children and 3 grandkids and they reside in Washington Utah RESOURCES: https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/prophets-and-fallibility/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/the-mormon-truth-crisis/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/the-mormon-paradox/ https://iep.utm.edu/val-snd/ The post MD: 385: Honest Conversations About Faith: A Testimony of the Restored Gospel: w/ Jacob Hansen & Bill Reel appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.