

PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf
Sasha Wolf / Real Photo Show
From the PhotoWork Foundation, the PhotoWork Podcast, hosted by Sasha Wolf, is a leading photography podcast featuring in-depth interviews with photographers, curators, publishers, and other influential figures in the fine art photography world. Each episode explores contemporary and post-documentary photography, photobooks, and the artistic process, offering insight, inspiration, and education for photographers, photography students, and creative professionals.
The PhotoWork Foundation supports the development and education of post-documentary photographers and cultivates an engaged audience for their work. Through its programs, the Foundation highlights photography that is often not commercially viable but essential for understanding contemporary society and visual storytelling.
For more episodes, show notes, and resources for photographers, visit www.photowork.foundation and follow us on Instagram @photowork.foundation.
The PhotoWork Foundation supports the development and education of post-documentary photographers and cultivates an engaged audience for their work. Through its programs, the Foundation highlights photography that is often not commercially viable but essential for understanding contemporary society and visual storytelling.
For more episodes, show notes, and resources for photographers, visit www.photowork.foundation and follow us on Instagram @photowork.foundation.
Episodes
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Feb 10, 2022 • 56min
Dr. Kenneth Montague - Episode 39
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and art collector and curator, Dr. Kenneth Montague discuss As We Rise: Photography from the Black Atlantic published by Aperture which is a compilation of work selected from Dr. Montague's famed Wedge Collection. Dr. Montague pieces together the experiences of being an immigrant son, living on the border of Canada and the U.S. and seeing the work of James Van Der Zee that all lead to this collection which is dedicated to artists of African descent.
https://www.wedgecuratorialprojects.org
https://aperture.org/books/as-we-rise-photography-from-the-black-atlantic/
https://www.instagram.com/drkmontague
Dr. Kenneth Montague started the Wedge Collection in 1997 to acquire and exhibit art that explores Black identity. In addition to the Wedge Collection, Montague founded Wedge Curatorial Projects, a nonprofit arts organization that helps to support emerging Black artists. A Toronto-based art collector, Montague has been a member of the Art Gallery of Ontario’s board of trustees since 2015. He has served on the African acquisitions committee at Tate Modern, London, and is an advisor to the Department of Arts of Global Africa and the Diaspora at the Art Gallery of Ontario.
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Jan 27, 2022 • 1h 4min
Rahim Fortune - Episode 38
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and photographer, Rahim Fortune explore his origins, how his family and where he is from has influenced his work, and the role certain people have played in his development.
https://www.rahimfortune.com
Rahim Fortune was raised in Chickasaw Nation of Oklahoma. His documentary photo practice focuses on culture, geography and self expression in the American landscape. He currently lives and works between Austin Texas and Brooklyn NY. He has made two books of work in the Southern United States: Oklahoma (2020) and I Can't Stand to See You Cry (2021).
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Jan 13, 2022 • 1h
Christopher Anderson - Episode 37
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and photographer, Christopher Anderson discuss his transformative journey from news and conflict photography to becoming the photographer he is today. Christopher and Sasha also talk about some of the books he has made after stepping away from conflict work.
https://christopherandersonphoto.com
Christopher Anderson was born in Canada and grew up in west Texas. In 1996, he became a contract photographer for U.S. News & World Report. There he began documenting social issues such as the effects of Russia’s economic crisis. Also, the situation of Afghan refugees in Pakistan and the election of Evo Morales in Bolivia. He first gained recognition for his pictures in 1999 when he boarded a handmade, wooden boat with Haitian refugees trying to sail to America. The boat, named the Believe In God, sank in the Caribbean. In 2000 the images from that journey would receive the Robert Capa Gold Medal.
He is the author of five monographs of photography.
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Dec 30, 2021 • 10min
Happy Holidays from Sasha and Michael
In this non-episode, episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and Michael give a few updates for the upcoming year but really just want to say thank you for your support of the show and wish everyone a healthy and Happy New Year.
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Dec 16, 2021 • 1h 2min
Craig Zobel - Episode 36
In this episode of Photowork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha talks with the writer director Craig Zobel about his journey from film school at the University of North Carolina School of the Arts to directing the Emmy winning HBO show, Mare of Easttown. Craig recounts some of the unexpected ways that his projects have gotten off the ground and he and Sasha wonder if some recurring themes are forever preoccupations. Sasha asks about specific shots and visual language employed in Mare of Easttown and Craig breaks down the different camera angles and shooting methods employed by him and his DP, Ben Richardson. Special thanks to Kristine Potter for introducing Sasha and Craig and for sharing her portrait of him used for this episode.
https://www.zobotprojects.com
https://www.instagram.com/craigzobel/
Craig Zobel is an American filmmaker and actor whose work includes music videos, film, and television. He has directed the films Compliance, Z for Zachariah, and The Hunt. On TV he has directed episodes of The Leftovers, American Gods, and Westworld. In 2021, he directed the miniseries Mare of Easttown on HBO.
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Dec 2, 2021 • 59min
Curran Hatleberg - Episode 35
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and photographer Curran Hatleberg discuss his journey from studying painting in undergrad to receiving his MFA in photography at Yale. They discuss his upcoming monograph due out this spring in 2022, as well as the books he's already published, as solo monographs and in concert with his partner, the artist Cynthia Daignault. They drill down on the importance of working collaboratively, both with his photographic subjects, as well as with his wider support group.
https://curranhatleberg.com
https://tbwbooks.com/products/rivers-dream
Curran Hatleberg received his MFA from Yale University in 2010. His work has been exhibited nationally and internationally, including recent shows at the Whitney Museum of American Art, MASS MoCA, Higher Pictures, and Fraenkel Gallery. Hatleberg has taught photography at numerous institutions, including Yale University and Cooper Union. He is the recipient of a 2020 Maryland State Arts Council Grant, a 2015 Magnum Emergency Fund grant, a 2014 Aaron Siskind Foundation Individual Photographer’s Fellowship grant, and the 2010 Richard Benson Prize for excellence in photography. Hatleberg’s work is held in various museum collections, including the Whitney Museum of American Art, SF MoMA, KADIST, the Center for Contemporary Photography, the Davison Art Center at Wesleyan University, the Williams College Museum of Art, and the Yale University Art Gallery. Lost Coast, his first monograph, was released by TBW Books in fall 2016. Somewhere Someone, a collaborative artist book with Cynthia Daignault, was released by Hassla Books in fall 2017. His second monograph, will be published by TBW Books in 2021.
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Nov 19, 2021 • 51min
Diana Markosian - Episode 34
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and photographer and filmmaker Diana Markosian discuss her ICP exhibition and accompanying first monograph, Santa Barbara, published by Aperture. Diana and Sasha talk about the reconstruction of Diana's childhood both in Russia and the United States in this staged and scripted documentary style project as well as the emotional experience of revisiting some painful childhood memories.
https://www.dianamarkosian.com
Diana Markosian (born in Moscow, 1989) takes an intimate approach to her photography and video storytelling, in work that is both conceptual and documentary. Her projects have taken her to some of the remotest corners of the world, and have been featured in The New Yorker, Vanity Fair and Vogue Magazine. She holds a Masters of Science degree from Columbia University in New York. Her work is represented by Galerie Les Filles du Calvaire in Paris, France and Rose Gallery in Los Angeles, California. Episode Notes
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Nov 5, 2021 • 51min
John Pilson - Episode 33
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha talks with photographer, film maker and Yale MFA Senior Critic in Photography, (as well as interim Acting Director of Graduate Studies) John Pilson. They discuss John's artistic journey, how he landed at Yale as a grad student himself and the Yale graduate program as it is today.
https://www.instagram.com/johnpilson/
John Pilson lives and works in Brooklyn, NYC and teaches in the Yale School of Art’s Graduate Studies in Photography Program where he is a Senior Critic. He has exhibited his work at P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center and at the Museum of Modern Art. Mr. Pilson has been an artist-in-residence at the Harvestworks Digital Media Arts Center and the LMCC World Views Program. At the Venice Biennale in 2002 he was awarded one of four prizes given to artists in the International Exhibition. Pilson was the editor for volume one of A New Nothing published by Sleeper Studio in 2021 and he is a contributor to the upcoming book, Object Lesson: The Influence of Richard Benson, to be published by Aperture in 2022.
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Oct 14, 2021 • 54min
Gillian Laub - Episode 32
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and returning guest, Gillian Laub discuss her brand new book and exhibition, Family Matters, published by Aperture and on view at ICP. Gillian explains why she asked her editor, Lesley Martin, to delay the publication of the book, just how crucial it was to her to get the text right, and her fears about releasing work that was so intensely personal.
http://www.gillianlaub.com
https://aperture.org/books/gillian-laub-family-matters/
Gillian Laub (born in Chappaqua, New York, 1975) is a photographer and filmmaker based in New York. She received a BA in comparative literature from the University of Wisconsin–Madison, before studying photography at the International Center of Photography, New York. Her works include the book Testimony (Aperture, 2007) and the book and HBO film Southern Rites (2015). Laub received a New York Foundation for the Arts fellowship in 2019.
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Sep 30, 2021 • 49min
Alessandra Sanguinetti - Episode 31
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and Magnum photographer Alessandra Sanguinetti discuss her books, On the Sixth Day and The Adventures of Belinda and Guille and the Meaning of their Enigmatic Dreams. Alessandra and Sasha discuss what informs her work, from her rural beginnings and desire to be a storyteller to illness and a moment of questioning her own abilities.
https://alessandrasanguinetti.com
Sanguinetti was born in New York in 1968, and brought up in Argentina where she lived from 1970 until 2003. Her interest in photography began aged 9 when she poured over her mother’s collection of books by Michael Lesy, Dorothea Lange and others. She studied Anthropology at the University of Buenos Aires and General Studies at the International Center of Photography.
In 1996 she began working on a series eventually titled, On the Sixth Day, which explored the complex relationship between man and domesticated animals in the countryside in Argentina. Three years into this project, she turned her attention to two nine-year-old cousins, Belinda and Guille, whose grandmother’s farm had been the subject of Sixth Day. Sanguinetti followed the two girls’ for five years, taking pictures embarked on a life long project, collaboratively photographing the two girls as they grew up and presently as adult women. The first five years culminated in a much-acclaimed monograph, The Adventures of Belinda and Guille and the Meaning of their Enigmatic Dreams (2010).
Sanguinetti is a recipient of a Guggenheim Foundation fellowship and a Hasselblad Foundation grant. Her photographs are included in public and private collections, such as the Museum of Modern Art (NY), the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. She has photographed for the The New York Times Magazine, LIFE, Newsweek, and New York Magazine and is currently based in San Francisco
Sanguinetti has been a member Magnum since 2007. She is currently based in California.
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