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News, analysis, and insights into enterprise security. We put security vendors under the microscope, and explore the latest trends that can help defenders succeed. Hosted by Adrian Sanabria. Co hosts: Katie Teitler-Santullo, Ayman Elsawah, Jason Wood, Jackie McGuire.
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Oct 25, 2024 • 1h 50min
Transforming the Defender's Dilemma into the Defender's Advantage - Charlotte Wylie, Bhawna Singh, Lenny Zeltser - ESW #381
Ever heard someone say, "the attacker only has to be right once, but the defender has to get it right every time"? On this episode, we'll dispel that myth. There is some truth to the saying, but only with regards to initial access to the target's environment. Once on the inside, the attacker's advantage flips to the defender. Call it the 'Home Alone' effect. Or the Goonies effect? Die Hard? So many movie metaphors work here! The conversation isn't just about setting traps for attackers, however, there's also a conversation to have about fundamentals and ensuring practitioners are prepared for whatever attackers might throw at them. This segment is inspired by the essay from Lenny by the same name: Transform the Defender’s Dilemma into the Defender’s Advantage The vast majority of the folks working polls and elections are volunteers. This creates a significant training challenge. Not only do they have to learn how to perform a complex and potentially stressful job in a short amount of time (most training is one day or less), cybersecurity-related concerns are usually not included for individual poll location and election workers. Kirsten Davies has a passion project that attempts to solve this, with some concise, accessible, and straightforward training material. It is made available through two PDFs on her new organization's website, instituteforcybercivics.org. Customer Identity is everywhere. It's powering secure experiences for billions - enabling people to check their luggage at the airport, watch their favorite Major League Soccer games, or take their favorite Peloton class. Because it’s everywhere, threat actors now see customer identity as a path to financial gain. Bots now make up nearly 50% of all internet traffic and are being used to steal sign-up bonuses or breach accounts. And cybercriminals are bypassing the login box completely, stealing authenticated session cookies at record rates. Bhawna Singh. Chief Technology Officer of Customer Identity Cloud at Okta joins host Mandy Logan, from Security Weekly, to discuss the current state of customer identity, what developers need to know about securing their applications and what Okta is doing to help developers build applications that decipher a human from a bot. Segment Resources: https://www.okta.com/oktane/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-helps-builders-easily-implement-auth-for-genai-apps-secure-how/ Whether it’s phishing techniques, password spraying, or social engineering, security leaders today are constantly needing to see past blindspots, educate their workforces, and rethink the enterprise security checklist. Many companies, like Okta, are finding ways to incorporate security within their company culture, as every employee has a role to play in keeping a company secure. Charlotte Wylie, Deputy CSO at Okta, joins Security Weekly's Mandy Logan to discuss what security leaders are being challenged with today when it comes to securing their workforce and from experience with implementing Okta’s Secure Identity Commitment how companies can be prioritizing security within their culture to help prevent threat actors from taking advantage of the weakest link. Segment Resources: https://www.okta.com/blog/2024/08/how-okta-fosters-a-security-culture/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-openid-foundation-tech-firms-tackle-todays-biggest-cybersecurity/ This segment is sponsored by Oktane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/oktane2024 and use discount code OKTNSC24 to pay only $100 for your full conference pass! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-381

Oct 18, 2024 • 1h 47min
Cybersecurity Success is Business Success - Renuka Nadkarni, Theresa Lanowitz - ESW #380
Secure by design is more than just AppSec - it addresses how the whole business designs systems and processes to be effective and resilient. The latest report from LevelBlue on Cyber Resilience reveals security programs that are reactive, ill-equipped, and disconnected from IT and business leaders. Most security problems are out of security teams' hands. Addressing them requires input, buy-in, and action from business leaders and IT. Security cannot afford to be separate from the rest of the organization. In this interview, we'll discuss how we could potentially solve some of these issues with Theresa Lanowitz from LevelBlue. Segment Resources: Grab your copy of the LevelBlue Futures Report on Cyber Resilience This segment is sponsored by LevelBlue. Visit https://securityweekly.com/levelblue to learn more about them! Implementing SASE can be tricky and onerous, but it doesn't have to be. Today, we discuss Unified SASE as a Service with Renuka Nadkarni, Chief Product Officer at Aryaka. Particularly, how can Unified SASE make both networking and security more flexible and agile? IT and security professionals need to ensure secure and performant applications and data access to all users across their distributed global network without escalating cost, risk or complexity, or sacrificing user experience. This segment is sponsored by Aryaka. Visit https://securityweekly.com/aryaka to learn more about them! Finally, in the enterprise security news, HUMAN, Relyance AI, and watchTowr raise funding this week Alternative paths to becoming a CISO Vendor booths don’t have to suck (for vendors or conference attendees!) Budget planning guidance for 2025 CISOs might not be that great at predicting their own future needs Use this one easy trick to bypass EDR! Analyzing the latest breaches and malware You probably shouldn’t buy a Fisker Ocean, no matter how cheap they get All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-380

Oct 11, 2024 • 1h 53min
Community Knowledge Sharing with CyberNest - Ben Siegel, Aaron Costello - ESW #379
For this interview, Ben from CyberNest joins us to talk about one of my favorite subjects: information sharing in infosec. There are so many amazing skills, tips, techniques, and intel that security professionals have to share. Sadly, a natural corporate reluctance to share information viewed as privileged and private has historically had a chilling effect on information sharing. We'll discuss how to build such a community, how to clear the historical hurdles with information sharing, and how to monetize it without introducing bias and compromising the integrity of the information shared. Aaron was already a skilled bug hunter and working at HackerOne as a triage analyst at the time. What he discovered can't even be described as a software bug or a vulnerability. This type of finding has probably resulted in more security incidents and breaches than any other category: the unintentional misconfiguration. There's a lot of conversation right now about the grey space around 'shared responsibility'. In our news segment later, we'll also be discussing the difference between secure design and secure defaults. The recent incidents revolving around Snowflake customers getting compromised via credential stuffing attacks is a great example of this. Open AWS S3 buckets are probably the best known example of this problem. At what point is the service provider responsible for customer mistakes? When 80% of customers are making expensive, critical mistakes? Doesn't the service provider have a responsibility to protect its customers (even if it's from themselves)? These are the kinds of issues that led to Aaron getting his current job as Chief of SaaS Security Research at AppOmni, and also led to him recently finding another common misconfiguration - this time in ServiceNow's products. Finally, we'll discuss the value of a good bug report, and how it can be a killer addition to your resume if you're interested in this kind of work! Segment Resources: Aaron's blog about the ServiceNow data exposure. The ServiceNow blog, thanking AppOmni for its support in uncovering the issue. In the enterprise security news, Eon, Resolve AI, Harmonic and more raise funding Dragos acquires Network Perception Prevalent acquires Miratech The latest DFIR reports A spicy security product review Secure by Whatever New threats Hot takes All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-379

Oct 3, 2024 • 2h 14min
Cybersecurity Career Paths: from touring musician to purple teaming at Meta - Neko Papez, Brian Contos, Jayson Grace - ESW #378
Our latest in a series of interviews discussing cybersecurity career paths, today we talk to Jayson Grace his path into cybersecurity and his experience building red teams at national labs and purple teams at Meta. We also talk about his community impact, giving talks and building open source tools. Jayson just left Meta for an AI safety startup named Dreadnode, which we'll discuss as well. Segment Resources: CyberSecEval 3: Advancing the Evaluation of Cybersecurity Risks and Capabilities in Large Language Models The [TTPForge] (https://github.com/facebookincubator/TTPForge) is a Cybersecurity Framework for developing, automating, and executing attacker Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures (TTPs). ForgeArmory provides TTPs that can be used with the TTPForge Wired, by Lily Hay Newman: Facebook's ‘Red Team X’ Hunts Bugs Beyond the Social Network's Walls MOSE (Master Of SErvers) is a post exploitation tool for configuration management servers. BSides SF 2024 - Beyond Quick Cash: Rethinking Bug Bounties for Greater Impact BSides LV 2023 - [GF - Enemy Within: Leveraging Purple Teams for Advanced Threat Detection & Prevention - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MT0tNi2vvc This week in the enterprise security news, we've got: Torq, Tamnoon, and Defect Dojo raise funding Checkmarx acquires ZAP Commvault acquires Clumio Would you believe San Francisco is NOT the most funded metro area for cybersecurity? Auto-doxxing Smart glasses are now possible Meta gets fined $100M for storing plaintext passwords AI coding assistants might not be living up to expectations Worst Practices Dumpster fires and truth bombs All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly! The way we use browsers has changed, so has the way we need to secure them. Using a secure enterprise browser to execute content away from the endpoint, inside a secure cloud browser is a dramatically more effective and cost-effective approach to protect users and secure access. This segment is sponsored by Menlo Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/menloisw to learn more about them! Sevco is a cloud-native vulnerability and exposure management platform built atop asset intelligence to enable rapid risk prioritization, mitigation, validation, and metrics. Segment Resources: Customer Testimonials: https://www.sevcosecurity.com/testimonials/ Product Videos: https://www.sevcosecurity.com/sevcoshorts/ This segment is sponsored by Sevco Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/sevcoisw to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-378

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Sep 27, 2024 • 1h 60min
SIEM: Shakeup in Event Management - What's Happening in the SIEM market today? - Jason Shockey, Seth Goldhammer - ESW #377
Seth Goldhammer, VP at Greylog, sheds light on the SIEM market's transformation and the challenges it faces. Jason Shockey, founder of MyCyberPath.com, shares his passion for guiding cybersecurity career navigation. They discuss the evolving SIEM landscape, the critical role of situational awareness, and the impact of AI and machine learning. Shockey also emphasizes the importance of lifelong learning and personal attributes in cybersecurity careers. Anecdotes and insights make for a rich conversation on both current trends and future possibilities.

Sep 20, 2024 • 1h 53min
Do phishing tests do more harm than good? & Speed, Flexibility, and AI - Wolfgang Goerlich, Whitney Young - ESW #376
A month ago, my friend Wolfgang Goerlich posted a hot take on LinkedIn that is less and less of a hot take these days. He posted, "our industry needs to kill the phish test",and I knew we needed to have a chat, ideally captured here on the podcast. I've been on the fence when it comes to phishing simulation, partly because I used to phish people as a penetration tester. It always succeeded, and always would succeed, as long as it's part of someone's job to open emails and read them. Did that make phishing simulation a Sisyphean task? Was there any value in making some of the employees more 'phishing resistant'? And who is in charge of these simulations? Who looks at a fake end-of-quarter bonus email and says, "yeah, that's cool, send that out." Segment Resources: Phishing in Organizations: Findings from a Large-Scale and Long-Term Study The GoDaddy Phishing Awareness Test The Chicago Tribune - How a Phishing Awareness Test Went Very Wrong University of California Santa Cruz - This uni thought it would be a good idea to do a phishing test with a fake Ebola scare In this episode, we explore some compelling reasons for transitioning from traditional SOAR tools to next-generation SOAR platforms. Discover how workflow automation and orchestration offers unparalleled speed and flexibility, allowing organizations to stay ahead of evolving security threats. We also delve into how advancements in AI are driving this shift, making new platforms more adaptable and responsive to current market demands. Segment Resources: Learn more about using Tines for Security Peruse the Tines library of 'Stories' built by Tines partners and customers Learn how to integrate AI tooling into Tines stories and workflows This segment is sponsored by Tines. Visit https://securityweekly.com/tines to learn more about them! This week, the cybersecurity industry's most basic assumptions under scrutiny. Following up our conversation with Wolfgang Goerlich, where he questions the value of phishing simulations, we discuss essays that call into question: the maturity of the industry the supposed "talent gap" with millions of open jobs despite complaints that this industry is difficult to break into cybersecurity's 'delusion' problem Also some whoopsies: researchers accidentally take over a TLD When nearly all your customers make the same insecure configuration mistakes, maybe it's not all their fault, ServiceNow finds out Fortinet has a breach, but is it really accurate to call it that? Some Coalfire pentesters that were arrested in Iowa 5 years ago share some unheard details about the event, and how it is still impacting their lives on a daily basis five years later. The news this week isn't all negative though! We discuss an insightful essay on detection engineering for managers from Ryan McGeehan is a must read for secops managers. Finally, we discuss a fun and excellent writeup on what happens when you ignore the integrity of your data at the beginning of a 20 year research project that resulted in several bestselling books and a Netflix series! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-376

Sep 13, 2024 • 2h 30min
Cybersecurity has too many distractions and can the White House fix BGP? - Harish Peri, Harry Wilson, Darren Guccione - ESW #375
This week, in the enterprise security news, Cribl, Zafran, and US states raise funding Cisco, Check Point, Salesforce, and Absolute Software acquire cybersecurity startups AI Security products are picking up steam You probably shouldn’t be too worried about Yubikey cloning Instead, you should be more worried about malicious npm packages! The White House wants to fix BGP SolarWinds has shady stuff in its source code, AGAIN The challenge of bringing security to small business Scams are getting quicker and more effective how not to run a phishing test and AI assistants rickroll paying customers! We are a month away from Oktane -- the biggest identity event of the year. Okta is bringing thousands of identity industry thought leaders, IT and security executives, and other tech leaders together on October 15-17 to discuss the changing landscape for security and identity, how organizations are putting identity first, new Okta products, and more. Harish Peri, Senior Vice President of Product Marketing, joins Enterprise Security Weekly to discuss what people should expect from Oktane this year, the conversations that will take place at the event and why it’s important for security professionals to attend/tune in. This segment is sponsored by Oktane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/oktane2024 and use discount code OKTNSC24 to pay only $100 for your full conference pass! Ever wondered what it's like to be responsible for the cybersecurity of a sports team? How about when that sports team is one of the world's most successful Formula One teams? I can't describe how excited we are to share this interview. This interview is basically two huge F1 nerds who happen to also be cybersecurity veterans asking everything they've always wanted to know about what it takes to secure an F1 team. For the folks out there that aren't familiar with this sport, Formula One is arguably the fastest, most watched, and most international automotive racing sport today. In the 2024 season, the racing series will feature ten teams traveling to 24 race tracks located in 21 different countries. Also, did you know that only two countries get more than one race? Italy gets to host two Grand Prix, and the United States gets to host three. A HUGE thanks to Keeper Security and Darren Guccione for making this interview possible. This isn't a sponsored interview, but it was Keeper's PR team that pitched the idea for this interview to us, and as F1 fans, we're super grateful they did! Segment Resources: Keeper Press Release on the Partnership Williams Press Release on the Partnership Some more details from Keeper on why they chose to sponsor automotive racing Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-375

Sep 5, 2024 • 46min
How to Make the World Quantum Safe - Vadim Lyubashevsky - ESW Vault
Check out this episode from the ESW Vault, hand picked by main host Adrian Sanabria! This episode was initially published on April 21 2023. Quantum computers are scaling rapidly. Soon, they will be powerful enough to solve previously unsolvable problems. But they come with a global challenge: fully-realized quantum computers will be able to break some of the most widely-used security protocols in the world. Dr. Vadim Lyubashevsky will discuss how quantum-safe cryptography protects against this potential future. Segment Resources: IBM Quantum Safe: https://www.ibm.com/quantum/quantum-safe IBM scientists help develop NIST’s quantum-safe standards: https://research.ibm.com/blog/nist-quantum-safe-protocols Government and industry experts recommend moving to quantum-safe cryptography: https://research.ibm.com/blog/economist-quantum-safe-replay Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-esw-16

Aug 30, 2024 • 1h 44min
What asset management (ITAM) looks like outside cybersecurity - Danny Jenkins, Ed Skoudis, Jeremy Boerger, Maor Bin - ESW #374
The top priority on the CIS Critical Security Controls list has never changed: inventory and control of enterprise assets. Yet it remains one of the most challenging controls to implement, much less master. The refrain, "you can't secure what you don't know about" is as old as information security itself. Complicating this task is the fact that improving asset management isn't an aspiration unique to the security team. IT, finance, facilities, and other groups within large enterprises are concerned with this as well. This often leads to challenges: should all these groups attempt to standardize on one common asset database or CMDB? Or should security go their own way, and purchase their own asset management tool? Answering these questions would be a lot easier if we had someone with an IT asset management (ITAM) perspective, and fortunately, we do! Jeremy Boerger of Boerger Consulting joins us to help us understand the IT perspective, so we can understand if there are opportunities for security and IT to help each other out, or at least find some common ground! Boerger Consulting Resources: Email newsletter LinkedIn newsletter Book page Amazon book page I often say that it isn't the concepts or ideas in cybersecurity that are bad, but the implementations of them. Sometimes the market timing is just wrong and the industry isn't ready for a particular technology (e.g. enterprise browsers). Other times, the technology just isn't ready yet (e.g. SIEMs needed better database technology and faster storage). Since the ideas are solid, we see these concepts return after a few years. Application allowlisting is one of these product categories. Threatlocker has been around since 2017 and is now a late stage startup that has achieved market fit. We chat with the company's CEO and founder, Danny Jenkins to find out how they learned from the mistakes made before them, and differentiate from the technology some of us remember from the late 2000s and early 2010s. Segment Resources: ThreatLocker Solutions This segment is sponsored by ThreatLocker. Visit https://securityweekly.com/threatlocker to learn more about them! In this interview, Maor Bin, CEO and Co-Founder of Adaptive Shield, discusses the evolving landscape of SaaS Security. He highlights the challenges posed by the security gap resulting from the rapid adoption of SaaS applications and why SaaS security is beyond just misconfiguration management. Segment Resources: https://www.adaptive-shield.com/landing-page/the-annual-saas-security-survey-report-2025-ciso-plans-and-priorities/ This segment is sponsored by Adaptive Shield. Visit https://securityweekly.com/adaptiveshieldbh to download the Annual SaaS Security Survey Report! Cybersecurity professionals are often confronted with ethical dilemmas that need to be carefully navigated. In 25 years of teaching incident handling and penetration testing, Ed has often been asked by his students for help in ethical decision-making. Ed will share some of their questions and his recommended approaches for addressing them. Ed also has a new book out, The Code of Honor, about cybersecurity ethics. All proceeds go to scholarships for college students. Segment Resources: 1) Ed's book, published June 18, 2024: https://www.amazon.com/Code-Honor-Embracing-Ethics-Cybersecurity/dp/1394275862/ref=sr11?crid=1DSHPCXDIQ1VT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rmZX2-3mj1nI74iKkjbKkQSNKCuRjjn-QQ8qrzVy21tMRAXuKu5Qr5rPgtszkVd7zJMV7oVTuImUZIxMQfecnaRlNRfAVI5G7azyWi8lY.WHOujvlsQXPTJaHuEafwRC2WVKZe474eVXHn46kLiEY&dib_tag=se&keywords=skoudis&qid=1722767581&sprefix=skoudis%2Caps%2C90&sr=8-1 2) Holiday Hack Challenge - sans.org/holidayhack Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-374

Aug 23, 2024 • 2h 27min
The end of the road for some cyber startups & making detection actually work! - Vivek Bhandari, Vivek Ramachandran, Mike Lyborg, Brandon Potter - ESW #373
This week, in the enterprise security news, A funding that looks like an acquisition And two for-sure acquisitions Rumors that there are funding problems for early stage cyber startups, and we’ll see a lot more acquisitions before the end of the year Speaking of rumors, Crowdstrike did NOT like last week’s Action1 acquisition rumor! Shortening detection engineering feedback loops HoneyAgents More reflections on Black Hat 2024 The attacker does NOT just have to get it right once and the defender does NOT have to get it right every time Remember BEC scams? Yeah, they’re still enterprise enemy #1 All that and more, in the news this week on Enterprise Security Weekly! SquareX With employees spending most of their working hours on the browser, web attacks are one of the biggest attack vectors today. Yet, both enterprises and security vendors today aren’t focused on securing the browser – a huge risk given that attackers can easily bypass Secure Web Gateways, SASE and SSE solutions. This segment will demonstrate the importance of a browser-native solution, discuss the limitations of current solutions and how enterprises can better protect their employees from web attacks. Segment Resources: DEF CON talk abstract Enterprise use cases for SquareX Data Sheet Why Browser Native Solutions are better than Cloud Based Proxies Blog on the Many Failures of Secure Web Gateways This segment is sponsored by Square X. Visit https://securityweekly.com/squarexbh to learn how SquareX can protect your employees from web attacks! Tanium The recent CrowdStrike outage and subsequent disruption tested organizations' resiliency and confidence as the world went offline. It served as a reminder that in an increasingly technology-dependent world, things will go wrong – but security leaders can plan accordingly and leverage emerging technologies to help minimize the damage. In this interview, Tanium’s Vice President of Product Marketing Vivek Bhandari explains how AI and automation can help with remediation and even prevent similar outages from happening in the future, and breaks down the future of Autonomous Endpoint Management (AEM) as the solution for continuous cyber resilience in the face of disruption. Segment Resources: The Future of Converged Endpoint Management is Autonomous Endpoint Management (AEM) This segment is sponsored by Tanium. Visit https://securityweekly.com/taniumbh to learn more about them! Swimlane and GenAI Join Swimlane CISO, Mike Lyborg and Security Weekly’s Mandy Logan as they cut through the AI peanut butter! While Generative AI is the not-so-new hot topic, it's also not the first time the cybersecurity industry has embraced emerging technology that can mimic human actions. Security automation and its ability to take action on behalf of humans have paved the way for generative AI to be trusted (within reason). The convergence and maturity of these technologies now have the potential to revolutionize how SecOps functions while force-multiplying SOC teams. This segment is sponsored by Swimlane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/swimlanebh to learn more about them! Swimlane and ProCircular ProCircular, is a security automaton power-user and AI early adopter. Hear from Swimlane customer, Brandon Potter, CTO at ProCircular, about how use of Swimlane, has helped his organization increase efficiency, improve security metrics and ultimately grow their customer base without increasing headcount. Segment Resources: ProCircular Case Study ProCircular Web Site This segment is sponsored by Swimlane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/swimlanebh to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-373