
REWORK
A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.
Latest episodes

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May 10, 2022 • 26min
Sell Your By-products (Season 2)
Henry Ford turned wood scraps from Model T production into charcoal. That company is now called Kingsford and it's the leading manufacturer of charcoal in America. 37signals was a small web design firm before it started selling the project management tool it made to communicate with clients. That's now called Basecamp. No matter what you make, you're always making something else as well and there's probably a market for that too!Show Notes00:30 - 37signals01:04 - Basecamp02:45 - Software as a service (Wikipedia)04:41 - Defensive Design for the Web: How to Improve Error Messages, Help, Forms, and Other Crisis Points - Matthew Linderman, Jason Fried (Amazon)05:25 - Getting Real05:47 - Ta-da List07:38 - Books by Basecamp10:27 - Rework - Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson (Bookshop.org)10:48 - Shape Up - Ryan Singer12:33 - Ruby on Rails13:18 - Web Interface Design Tip: The Yellow Fade Technique (Signal vs Noise)21:33 - Campfire

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May 3, 2022 • 25min
Tone is in Your Fingers
Any photographer will tell you it doesn't really matter what camera you use if you know how to take a good picture. So often, businesses obsess over getting a fancy office, the best software or breakroom snacks, when they really should be focusing on getting customers and making money. It doesn't matter what gear you have as long as you know what you're doing.Show Notes01:45 - Leica02:42 - Malcom Gladwell Explains What Everyone Gets Wrong About His Famous '10,000 Hour Rule' (Business Insider)02:59 - Start at the Epicenter (rework.fm)04:04 - PHP04:37 - Ruby05:11 - TextMate06:41 - Jason Fried (Hey World)06:44 - I bought a sauna (Jason Fried - Hey World)08:47 - Fuji Film08:47 - Canon09:12 - Barnes & Noble12:31 - 37signals19:45 - Maverick - Ricardo Semler (Amazon)19:53 - Semco Style Institute20:10 - Several Short Sentences about Writing - Verlyn Klinkenborg (Bookshop.org)20:25 - Turn the Ship Around!: A True Story of Turning Followers Into Leaders - L. David Marquet (Bookshop.org)21:27 - Are Your Lights On?: How to Figure Out What the Problem Really Is - Donald C. Gause, Gerald M. Weinberg (Amazon)22:23 - The Manual: A Philosopher's Guide to Life - Epictetus (Bookshop.org)

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Apr 26, 2022 • 27min
Focus on What Won't Change
A lot of companies focus on chasing hot trends or new technology. That's all fine and good, but the core of your business should be built around the things that people will always want. In the case of Basecamp, that means speed, simplicity, and great customer service. For a company like Amazon, it means focusing on fast delivery and easy returns. Customers are going to want these things now and 10 years from now.Show Notes11:54 - Ruby on Rails15:31 - Turbo15:35 - Hotwire20:04 - Automatic Check-ins21:52 - "My Customers Would Have Asked For a Faster Horse" (Quote Investigator)23:02 - The Tyranny of Metrics - Jerry Z. Muller (Bookshop.org)

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Apr 19, 2022 • 22min
Throw Less at the Problem
When things aren't working, it's human nature to throw more at the problem. More money, more people, more time. However, this usually ends up making the problem bigger. So, do less! Reframe the problem in such a way that it can be solved with fewer people, less money, and without endlessly pushing back deadlines.Show Notes00:50 - The path to Basecamp 4 (HEY World - Jason Fried)03:09 - 10x Developer (Techopedia)06:52 - Tesla11:02 - Blue Ocean Strategy - W. Chan Kim and Renée a. Mauborgne (Bookshop.org)13:49 - Setting the appetite (Shape Up)

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Apr 5, 2022 • 23min
Be a Curator
Everyone has more ideas than they can realistically fit in a product. A good museum doesn't just throw everything in its collection up on the walls. There's a curation process. Someone says, "no." It's in making these edits that the real product comes out, so embrace it!Show Notes02:32 - Shape Up02:37 - Six-week cycles (Shape Up)07:36 - Stick it to an email (HEY)10:41 - Big Design Up Front (Wikipedia)11:27 - Ruby on Rails14:48 - Gantt chart (Wikipedia)17:17 - Highrise17:52 - Know Your Team20:03 - We Work Remotely20:32 - Sortfolio

Mar 29, 2022 • 16min
Meetups and Miami
Basecamp was in Miami last week. I sat down with Jason and David to talk about why we were there, the importance of meeting colleagues in person, and investing in culture.

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Mar 15, 2022 • 25min
Making the Call is Making Progress
It's so easy to punt on something; to say, "let's wait until we have enough information to make the perfect decision." Perfect decisions don't exist, putting things off makes them pile up, and you'll end up getting absolutely nowhere. Very few decisions are set in stone. So, make calls as quickly as possible. Don't wait around for the perfect answer.Show Notes06:33 - Disagree and commit (Wikipedia)07:37 - Six-week cycles (Shape Up)15:13 - HEY World18:19 - Performance indicator (Wikipedia)18:29 - The Tyranny of Metrics - Jerry Z. Muller19:14 - Notes from Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky20:41 - Gary Vaynerchuk20:51 - What's the ROI of your mother (garyvaynerchuk.com)

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Mar 8, 2022 • 24min
Ignore the Details Early On
It's incredibly easy to focus too much on the little details of what you're building. You can spend hours and hours on something that will rarely ship with the final product. And, details are important! But, early on is not the time to worry about them. Focus on the basics first and worry about the specifics later.Show Notes02:14 - Hill Charts (Basecamp)03:02 - Fat marker sketches (Shape Up)07:17 - On the Origin of the iPhone (Daring Fireball)10:21 - "Getting Real" design tip: Just say no to Lorem Ipsum (Signal vs Noise)12:15 - Why are we likely to continue with an investment even if it would be rational to give it up? (The Decision Lab)12:16 - Why do we value items more if they belong to us? (The Decision Lab)13:12 - Test-driven development (Wikipedia)18:31 - basecamp.com/customers

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Mar 1, 2022 • 23min
Start at the Epicenter
When starting something new, you can work on the stuff you could do, the stuff you want to do, and the stuff you have to do. It's the stuff you have to do is where you should begin. To find that epicenter ask yourself, "if I took this one thing away, would what I'm selling still exist."Show Notes06:07 - Highrise08:23 - Salesforce15:32 - Is Your Product a 'Vitamin' or 'Painkiller?' - Entrepreneur16:12 - The Screener

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Feb 22, 2022 • 24min
Build Half a Product, Not a Half-Assed Product
You can't do everything you want to do and do it well. You just don't have the time, resources, people, etc., so you're going to have to cut some things. But, this isn't a bad thing at all! As with any other early constraints, embrace the editing process. Your product will be better off for it!Show Notes02:08 - tilted05:56 - Jonas Downey06:31 - Ryan Singer06:33 - Matthew Linderman (Matt Ruby)08:49 - The HEY Cover Art Gallery10:50 - Six-week cycles (Shape Up)15:28 - A Review Of The Minimum Viable Product Approach (Forbes)17:09 - HEY Features17:23 - The Screener19:04 - Getting Real (YouTube)21:13 - The "Building of Basecamp" Workshop (37signals)