

Bungacast
Bungacast
The global politics podcast at the end of the End of History. Politics is back but it’s stranger than ever: join us as we chart a course beyond the age of ’bunga bunga’. Interviews, long-form discussions, docu-series.
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Sep 19, 2024 • 1h 4min
/439/ We Can Shape Our Own Environment ft. Ted Nordhaus
On "eco-modernism".
Ted Nordhaus, co-founder and executive director of the Breakthrough Institute, talks to Leigh and Alex the 20th anniversary of "The Death of Environmentalism" and the 10th anniversary of "The Ecomodernist Manifesto". We discuss:
The fundamental philosophical differences between "building-out" and "restraint".
Whether industrial policy like the Inflation Reduction Act is in line with the ecomodern approach
Why environmentalism differs in the US versus Western Europe
Why modernisation gets lost in discussions on the environment
What techno-optimism and what techno-fixes are
What the Abundance Agenda is
Links:
The Death of Environmentalism, Breakthrough Institute
An ECOMODERNIST MANIFESTO

Sep 17, 2024 • 1h 21min
/438/ You Are Being Enlisted into the Culture War ft. Andrew Hartman
On the US culture wars, then and now.
Historian Andrew Hartman, author of A War for the Soul of America, talks to Alex about how US Americans have been sorted into cultural camps over the past fifty years. We discuss:
Who started it? And who perpetuates it?
What is the "culture" in the culture war? And is it a war, or a series of skirmishes?
Is there something particularly American about culture wars?
The culture wars have followed the breakup of liberalism – so, what comes next?
Do culture wars necessarily presuppose identity politics?
Links:
A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture Wars, Andrew Hartman, UC Press
The Culture Wars are Dead, Andrew Hartman, The Baffler

Sep 12, 2024 • 6min
/437/ Climate Change Is Not an Information Problem ft. Holly Buck (sample)
On disinformation, misinformation and the popular will.
Holly Jean Buck, Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University at Buffalo, joins us to talk about her recent pieces arguing that the climate movement's focus on disinformation is misguided. We discuss:
What is disinformation and misinformation in the climate context?
Are there parallels to be drawn with anti-disinfo campaigns on vaccines during the pandemic?
How is the deterioration in trust in elites and scientific institutions to be responded to?
What do Holly's focus groups tell her about popular views on climate politics?
Does the return to industrial policy mean we should focus on "people who know how to make and run stuff"?
And what is solar radiation management, carbon capture and storage, carbon dioxide removal, and related technologies?
Links:
Obsessing Over Climate Disinformation Is a Wrong Turn, Holly Jean Buck, Jacobin
A Climate Disinformation Focus Takes Us the Wrong Way, Holly Jean Buck, Jacobin
Of Course "Misinformation" Isn’t the Cause of Climate Change, Alex Tremblath, Breakthrough Institute
Books:
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration, Holly Jean Buck, Verso
Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero is Not Enough, Holly Jean Buck, Verso

Sep 10, 2024 • 1h 18min
/436/ Slovakia's Four World Directions ft. Dominik Zelinsky
On corruption, charisma, populism & assassination in Slovakia.
Slovak sociologist Dominik Zelinksy joins us to discuss Slovakia's positioning between East and West. We discuss:
Why was Prime Minister Robert Fico a target of an assassination attempt?
Whether Fico – not a zany outsider but a competent insider – is a "populist"
Why Slovaks are not so anti-Russian, and why they are sceptical of NATO
How has anti-corruption politics played a role
What is "charismatic mimicry" and why have Western leaders aped Ukraine's Zelenskyy?
Links:
Slovakia's election: "more than a fight between democracy and autocracy", Dominik Zelinsky, LeftEast
Assassination Attempt Prompts Soul-Searching in Slovakia, Jakub Bokes, Jacobin
Slovakia’s Election Result Is About Declining Living Standards, Not Just Ukraine, Jakub Bokes, Jacobin
Charismatic Mimicry: Innovation and Imitation in the Case of Volodymyr Zelensky, Paul Joosse & Dominik Zelinsky, Sociological Theory. Thread on Twitter/X about the article

Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 17min
UNLOCKED: /419/ Who Owns Power ft. Fred Stafford
On the electricity grid and the institutions involved.
[Episode originally released only to subscribers on 20 June 2024. Join us at patreon.com/bungacast]
Fred Stafford, a STEM professional, a writer on energy and power, and an editor at Damage, talks to Alex and regular contributor Leigh Phillips about the utility of utilities and his recent essay in the second print issue of Damage, "Deinstitutionalized"./
What actually is a utility: is it a question of ownership, structure, purpose..?
How did the 70s energy crisis, neoliberal economics, and environmentalism create a perfect storm that broke up regulated utilities?
How does the regulatory regime on energy in the US actually work?
Why have environmentalists been so keen to line up with neoliberal deregulation and to attack utilities – in Europe as well as the US?
Why should the left think about a restoration of the investor-owned utility model, and not just jump straight to public ownership?
Links:
The Utility of Utilities, Fred Stafford & Matt Huber, Damage
Big Public Power from the Atom, Matt Huber & Fred Stafford, Damage
Power Loss: The Origins of Deregulation and Restructuring in the American Electric Utility System, Richard F Hirsch

Sep 3, 2024 • 6min
/435/ Reading Club: Stalin's General – Winning WWII (sample)
On Geoffrey Roberts’ 2013 biography of Field Marshal Zhukov.
[Patreon Exclusive]
Who was the Soviet general and architect of Soviet victory on the Eastern Front during the Second World War? We discuss:
What does Zhukov’s life tell us about modern warfare?
What can we learn about the life and fate of the Soviet regime?
How should we view the Ukraine war and renewed geopolitical rivalry between the West and Russia today?
What are the popular perceptions and folk memories of world war?
Links:
Stalin's General: The Life of Georgy Zhukov, Geoffrey Roberts
Saving Private Ivan, Mike Davis, The Guardian
Negotiate Now, or Capitulate Later: Ten Incentives for Ukraine to Make Peace with Russia, Geoffrey Roberts, Brave New Europe
Putin’s Trump Card: Ukrainian Membership of NATO, Geoffrey Roberts, Brave New Europe
‘Now or Never’: The Immediate Origins of Putin’s Preventative War on Ukraine, Geoffrey Roberts, Journal of Military and Strategic Studies

Aug 29, 2024 • 5min
/434/ Bodiless Bodies ft. Matthew Thompson & Jonny Gordon-Farleigh (sample)
Matthew Thompson, a researcher on civil society, and Jonny Gordon-Farleigh, who focuses on NGOs’ influence on politics, dive into the profound impact of NGO-isation on contemporary governance. They explore how private NGOs and quangos have reshaped state responsibilities, leaving a 'shadow state' in their wake. The conversation addresses the damaging effects of 'projectification' on public accountability, and discusses potential paths for revitalizing community-driven initiatives like Working Men’s Clubs. Expect concrete examples and thought-provoking insights!

Aug 27, 2024 • 6min
/433/ Aufhebonus Bonus – August 2024 (sample)
On your questions & criticisms.
[Patreon Exclusive]
We respond with comments on episodes 420 to 432 and various other points you wanted to us to discuss. In this episode:
Does our politics lack self-critique?
When did the breakdown of the UK's political system begin?
How hegemonic is "settler" discourse?
Will there be a coup in France?
Do we need more analysis of the PMC?
How did victimhood become a means for the expression of political demands?
Links:
The Making of a New Political Subject, George Hoare, Café americain
Vulnerability as Ideology, Peter Ramsay, The Northern Star

Aug 20, 2024 • 31min
/432/ Median Left Thought and its Monsters ft. Ben Burgis (sample)
On Naomi Klein & Naomi Wolf and "political diagonalism"
Episode in association with Damage magazine. Patreon Exclusive.
Ben Burgis talks to Alex and George about his review in Damage of Naomi Klein's Doppelgangers. We discuss:
Whether Naomi Klein is representative of the average left-wing position this century
What Klein's trajectory and that of Naomi Wolf tell us about contemporary politics
What is "pipiking" – Philip Roth's term for making everything a farce?
What role do conspiracy theories play for the Right today? For the Left?
What's wrong with the idea of "settlers" and "indigenous", and how does it play out with regard to Jews and to Native Americans?
Are we right to hold up “proper left” and “proper right” as ideals to which the ideological confusion of our times should return?
Links:
Left Identitarianism Is Also A Mirror World, Ben Burgis, Damage
Ben Burgis' columns at Jacobin
What comes after wokeness?, Alex Hochuli, Substack
The Making of a New Political Subject, George Hoare, Café american

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Aug 15, 2024 • 1h 1min
/431/ The Myth of Monolithic China ft. Lee Jones & Shahar Hameiri
Lee Jones, an expert on Chinese state structure and external relations, and Shahar Hameiri, who focuses on the Chinese Communist Party's dynamics, delve into the reality of China's fragmented authority. They discuss the implications of recent Party plenums and Xi Jinping's leadership, questioning who truly wields power. The duo examines the Sino-Russian alliance, the status of wolf-warrior diplomacy, and the potential economic fallout from China's property bubble. They also tackle concerns about escalating tensions over Taiwan and the South China Sea.