

The MMT Podcast with Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly
Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly
The MMT Podcast offers economic analysis on current issues from a Modern Monetary Theory perspective. Aimed at anyone who has ever felt lost in the jargon used by mainstream economics commentators. We believe economics is for everyone.
You can help sustain this podcast via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
You can help sustain this podcast via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
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Aug 11, 2021 • 1h 20min
#110 L. Randall Wray: Are We Living In An MMT World?
In anticipation of his upcoming keynote speech at the 2nd International European MMT conference, Patricia & Christian talk to primary MMT academic Professor L. Randall Wray about MMT in the current context, and apply its insights to Europe. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All of our episodes with L Randall Wray: https://www.patreon.com/posts/44467066 Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu Books By L Randall Wray: https://www.amazon.co.uk/L-Randall-Wray/e/B001HP7OPG?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2&qid=1628616477&sr=8-2 More about endogenous money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 More about chartalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartalism More on understanding government bond sales: Part 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/29621245 Part 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/29829500 A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54750022

Aug 4, 2021 • 1h 19min
#109 Fadhel Kaboub: Unravelling Financial Media & Strategies For The Global South
Patricia & Christian talk to economist and President of The Global Institute for Sustainable Prosperity Professor Fadhel Kaboub about skewed media perceptions of inflation and quantitative easing, and strategies for developing nations to build economic power. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All of our episodes with Fadhel Kaboub: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43484621 Stay up to date with Fadhel’s work, which includes many online teach-ins and seminars: On Twitter: https://twitter.com/FadhelKaboub On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kaboubf More about the V20 (Vulnerable Twenty) Group: https://www.v-20.org/ Details about the MMT Summer School in Poznań, Poland: https://fundacjalipinskiego.pl/wydarzenia/mmt-summer-school-2021/ Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54374769

Jul 28, 2021 • 1h 22min
#108 Steven Hail & Gabrielle Bond: Achieving Sustainable Prosperity
Christian talks to Gabrielle Bond and Steven Hail of the Sustainable Prosperity Action Group about their outreach work and their upcoming “Rethinking Capitalism” seminar in Melbourne. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 Support The Sustainable Prosperity Action Group: https://sustainable-prosperity.net.au/ Details about Steven and Gabrielle’s two-day “Rethinking Capitalism” seminar: https://sustainable-prosperity.net.au/summer-school/ Details about the MMT Summer School in Poznań, Poland: https://fundacjalipinskiego.pl/wydarzenia/mmt-summer-school-2021/ Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54178535

Jul 8, 2021 • 1h 28min
EXTRA! Bill Mitchell & Luke McGregor: MMT and the media - Taking charge of the narrative
Our next full episode will be out on 21st July 2021, but in the meantime please enjoy this conversation. Jayne Flanagan and Dallas Lewis of Modern Money Australia host a conversation between comedian and actor Luke McGregor and Professor Bill Mitchell about all things MMT, their experience in the media, and how MMT advocates might best take charge of the media narrative. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast Support Modern Money Australia: https://modernmoneyaustralia.org/ For an intro to MMT, listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 About this event: “MMT and the media: Taking charge of the narrative In households across Australia we see a startling increase in the incidence of 'shouting-at-the-telly'. Experts say there's a strong correlation between 'shouting-at-the-telly' and the rise in the understanding of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). Monitoring the hoarse throats of "telly-shouters" experts note that the telly brims full of talking heads fear-mongering about 'tax-payers money', 'the debt burden on future generations' and 'the government going broke'. Very concerning. But seriously, a free and independent media is a bulwark of a healthy, functioning democracy. Increasing attention is being paid to MMT in the media, particularly since the onset of this Covid era. Yet questions about media 'group think' and independence are being brought to the fore by a stubborn bias towards the false, orthodox, neoliberal economic narrative of 'sound finance' and fiscal austerity. A bias that is to the detriment (and ire) of us all. Our guest, Luke McGregor, actor and writer on the highly acclaimed comedy, Rosehaven, and comedian well-known on the stand-up circuit, has fortunately become a champion of MMT in the media. His Lukenomics segment, 'Will Australia Ever Run Out of Money?' on Charlie Pickering's The Weekly and his recent appearance on ABC's Q&A program being wonderful examples of his efforts. In this webinar, Luke McGregor and Professor Bill Mitchell, founding MMT scholar, economist, academic, author, prolific blogger and founder of MMTeD, will have a conversation about all things MMT, their experience in the media and how we might best take charge of the media narrative.” All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our episodes with Bill Mitchell: https://www.patreon.com/posts/42072816 A quick read describing MMT: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Two episodes about Quantitative Easing: Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 59 - Warren Mosler: What Do Central Banks Do?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/39070023 Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos

Jun 30, 2021 • 1h 20min
#107 Matthew Alford: Understanding Mass Media
Christian talks to author, documentary filmmaker, and lecturer in media Dr Matthew Alford about mass media as an institution and relates it to coverage of Modern Monetary Theory. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 National Security Cinema by Matthew Alford and Tom Secker: https://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Security-Cinema-Government-Hollywood/dp/1548084980 Follow Matthew on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheWriterWithNoHands “A mainstream outlet accepted my pitch on what media refuses to say about US empire – then refused to let me say it” by Matthew Alford: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/13/mainstream-outlet-media-refuses-say/ For more on the Propaganda Model: https://www.medialens.org/the-propaganda-model/ Media critical projects: Media Lens: https://www.medialens.org/ Fairness And Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR): https://fair.org/ FAIR’s podcast, “Counterspin”: https://fair.org/counterspin-radio/ Citations Needed podcast: https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/ Democracy Now!: https://www.democracynow.org/ Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos

Jun 23, 2021 • 1h 12min
#106 Clint Ballinger: Understanding Vertical And Horizontal Money
Patricia and Christian talk to geographer and author of 1000 Castaways Clint Ballinger about ways of understanding the relationship between commercial bank credit creation (horizontal money) and state-issued currency (vertical money) in a modern money system and much more. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 1000 Castaways by Clint Ballinger: https://clintballinger.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/1000-castaways-introduction/ Decouple Spending From Bond Sales by Clint Ballinger: https://clintballinger.wordpress.com/2018/11/13/decouple-spending-from-bond-sales/ The Myth of Hyperinflation by Clint Ballinger: https://clintballinger.wordpress.com/2021/01/12/the-myth-of-hyperinflation/ Federal Debt and Modern Money by Steven Hail & David Joy: http://www.global-isp.org/policy-note-121/ An MMT Response on What Causes Inflation by Scott Fullwiler, Rohan Grey & Nathan Tankus: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332318485_An_MMT_Response_on_What_Causes_Inflation Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52539160

Jun 16, 2021 • 1h 37min
#105 Sam Levey: Krugman, Bond Markets & BS Jobs
Patricia and Christian talk to MMT scholar and Deficit Owl Sam Levey about recent press coverage of MMT and the late David Graeber’s Bulls**t Jobs. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our episodes with Sam Levey: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43189679 Our two-part interview with the authors of An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer: Part 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Part 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/46865929 An Accounting Model of the UK Exchequer by Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: https://gimms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/An-Accounting-Model-of-the-UK-Exchequer-2nd-edition.pdf Saving And Investment By Degrees by Sam Levey: https://slevey087.medium.com/saving-and-investment-by-degrees-6ec2a050c5f0 To Fight Bullshit Jobs, Run The Economy Really Hot by Sam Levey: https://slevey087.medium.com/to-fight-bullshit-jobs-run-the-economy-really-hot-f11206e024b1 Warren Mosler’s talk in Chianciano, Italy, January 11, 2014: http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/01/beyond-euro-left-crisis-alternative.html Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52411206

Jun 9, 2021 • 1h 23min
#104 John T Harvey: Inflation, Stagflation & Healing The Nation
Patricia and Christian talk to author and economist Professor John T. Harvey about inflation, what mainstream neoclassical economics gets wrong, and how to put it right. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our episodes with John T. Harvey: https://www.patreon.com/posts/44371783 Our episode 47 with Pavlina Tcherneva: laying out the Job Guarantee https://www.patreon.com/posts/36034543 Four Reasons To Stop Panicking Over Inflation! by John T Harvey: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2021/05/12/four-reasons-to-stop-panicking-over-inflation/?sh=5ca7e8223a97 Money Growth Does Not Cause Inflation! by John T Harvey: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2011/05/14/money-growth-does-not-cause-inflation/?sh=63e1a9c42f58 Weimar Republic Hyperinflation through a Modern Monetary Theory Lens by Phil Armstrong and Warren Mosler: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Weimar-Republic-Hyperinflation-through-a-Modern-Monetary-Theory-Lens.pdf Details about the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 Transcript for opening monologue: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52208093 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52207835

Jun 2, 2021 • 1h 9min
#103 Ndongo Samba Sylla: The CFA Franc & The Movement For Monetary Sovereignty In Africa
Patricia and Christian talk to Senegalese development economist and author Ndongo Samba Sylla about the political challenges facing countries with limited financial sovereignty and Africa’s last colonial currency - the CFA Franc. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 Africa's Last Colonial Currency - The CFA Franc Story by Fanny Pigeaud & Ndongo Samba Sylla: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341798/africas-last-colonial-currency/ Our episode 12 with Fadhel Kaboub on monetary Sovereignty: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790149 The New Economic Perspectives blog: http://neweconomicperspectives.org The website of The African Economic and Monetary Sovereignty initiative, which includes an open letter available for countersigning, calling on Africa’s trading partners to acknowledge the failure of extractive economic models and to embrace a new cooperation model and for all African states to develop a strategic plan focused on reclaiming their monetary and economic sovereignty: http://mes-africa.org/ Follow The African Economic and Monetary Sovereignty initiative on Twitter for updates on their next conference: https://twitter.com/Mon_Sovereignty The website of the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 Transcript for opening monologue: https://www.patreon.com/posts/51864462 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/51864583

May 26, 2021 • 1h 30min
#102 Kairin Van Sweeden & Cameron Archibald: Scotland’s Job Guarantee - An Employer Of Last Resort
Patricia and Christian talk to Kairin Van Sweeden & Cameron Archibald of Modern Money Scotland about their Job Guarantee proposal for an independent Scotland. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast For an intro to MMT: Listen to our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 SCOTLAND'S JOB GUARANTEE: AN EMPLOYER OF LAST RESORT by Cameron Archibald & Kairin van Sweeden: https://www.modernmoney.scot/policy-papers Kairin Van Sweeden’s blog: https://www.indyanatomist.scot/ Our other episodes on MMT and Scottish Independence: Episode 15 on MMT & The Economics Of An Independent Scotland: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41805554 Episode 28 - Warren Mosler on starting a new currency: https://www.patreon.com/posts/29265974 Episode 29 - Bill Mitchell on MMT and Scottish independence: https://www.patreon.com/posts/29419615 Our episode with Fadhel Kaboub on monetary Sovereignty as it relates to independence movements: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790149 Our episodes explaining the MMT Job Guarantee in detail: https://www.patreon.com/posts/44722328 Our episodes on An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer: Part 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Paet 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/46865929 Warren Mosler proposal for member nations desiring to exit the Euro: https://youtu.be/LQRgJPEAvIM Tim Rideout on The Six Tests For Establishing a Scottish Currency: https://youtu.be/npP9WV97HsU More about the Common Weal group: https://commonweal.scot/ Quick overview of the non-accelerating inflation buffer employment ratio (NAIBER) framework: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAIBER The website of the 2nd International European MMT conference (September 13th-15th 2021): https://www.mmtconference.eu A list of upcoming MMT events and courses: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47531455 A list of MMT-informed campaigns and organisations worldwide: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47900757 Transcript for opening monologue: https://www.patreon.com/posts/51672599 We are working towards full transcripts, but in the meantime, closed captions for all episodes are available on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp_nGVTuMfBun2wiG-c0Ew/videos Show notes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/51673111