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Shadi Hamid & Damir Marusic
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Oct 13, 2023 ⢠41min
Who is Responsible for the War in Gaza?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveAfter Hamas fighters massacred hundreds of Israeli civilians, Israel is now massed on Gazaâs borders ahead of an operation that will likely devastate the Palestinian population. This week, Shadi Hamid and Damir Marusic sit down and unpack their complex thoughts and feelings about what is going on. What is the appropriate way to speak about atrocities after the fact? In the immâŚ

Sep 24, 2023 ⢠43min
How To Regain Your Sense of Wonder
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveWhat are the most valuable parts of our transient lives and how does our appraisal of them change as we age?This week, Shadi Hamid and Damir Marusic take a step back from larger questions around current events to visit a recurring theme at Wisdom of Crowds around meaning. The episode centers around Damirâs recent Monday Note, âA Lost Sense of Wonderâ, where he reflects on the pursuit of enchantment including in close relationships but also after witnessing a wondrous meteor shower in the Shenandoah Valley. The guys discuss how to think about the failure to recreate precious memories just as people they know move away and cities they remember visiting change. Should we feel melancholy in our nostalgia or continue finding comfort in the things that bring us happiness now? Meanwhile, Shadi dwells on judgement in the afterlife. He observes how the relationships that make life valuable are not enough for some, including those at ease with their own mortality â a disposition to which Shadi cannot quite relate.In the full episode (for paying subscribers only) the two discuss the balance between pursuing virtue for potential rewards in the afterlife and doing right by people in the present. Shadi, a believer, admits to genuine fear about what happens after death. After all, if there is a heaven, there is also a hell. Damir, a non-believer, places more emphasis on finding purpose in oneself rather than adhering to otherworldly incentives. Is a balance between these two paths possible? Subscribe to the listen to the full episode. Required Reading:* âA Lost Sense of Wonderâ, by Damir Marusic (Wisdom of Crowds).* âThe Virtue Politics of Mitt Romneyâ (Wisdom of Crowds).* âThe Watusi bull riding shotgun is what makes America greatâ by David Von Drehle (The Washington Post).* âThis Really Is Europeâ with Ben Judah, podcast episode (Wisdom of Crowds).* âAn Extremely Online Existenceâ podcast episode (Wisdom of Crowds).* Shadiâs conversation with Sam Harris about meditation and being Muslim on Samâs podcast, Waking Up.Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Sep 17, 2023 ⢠46min
The Virtue Politics of Mitt Romney
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveAs the leaders of the major political parties show stark signs of advanced age, their supporters are bending over backwards to defend their own while criticizing their opponents. Politics at its purest.This week, Shadi and Damir return from summer break to dive into the latest developments in D.C. as the next election looms. They discuss the self-interest and rank hypocrisy of the Republican Party conveyed in a new, fascinating profile of Senator Mitt Romney. Is the GOP irredeemable? The conversation heats up as the guys arrive at the intersection of hypocrisy, politics, and morality. Damir the cynic questions whether Romneyâs pieties are all that impressive. Shadi, the moralist, lauds Romney as an exemplar of virtue politicsâinextricably linked to Romneyâs Mormon faith. Hypocrisy, Shadi argues, entails rather than negates morality. But of course there is such a thing as too much hypocrisy. Where to draw the line? In the full episode (for paying subscribers only) Shadi and Damir grapple with how events shaped by establishment politicians dating back to the nineties ought to be viewed today. The guys discuss how fear of worst-case political outcomes scrambles an adherence to oneâs moral and political beliefs. Damir argues that while he sympathizes with anti-Trump Republicans like Romney, their moral posturing doesnât resolve fraught political questions. Shadi expresses concerns about the situation Democrats find themselves. In their obsession with avoiding a Trump victory, they may be making the the very outcome they fear more likely. Required Reading:* âWe Need to Talk About Biden,â by Derek Hudson (Wisdom of Crowds).* âWhat Mitt Romney Saw in the Senate,â by McKay Coppins (The Atlantic).* âPresident Biden should not run again in 2024,â by David Ignatius (The Washington Post).* âDemocrats are crazy to insist only Biden can beat Trump,â by David Von Drehle (The Washington Post).* "Is âPeak Wokeâ Behind Us or Ahead?â by Ross Douthat (The New York Times).* âMitt Romney Has Given Us A Giftâ by David Brooks (The New York Times).* CNN polling showing Trump remaining competitive against Biden.* Political Hypocrisy by David Runciman.* Hypocrisy and Integrity by Ruth Grant.* âBetter Manâ by Pearl Jam.Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Aug 25, 2023 ⢠52min
Is a Better World Possible Without American Power?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveThis week, weâre pulling one of our favorite and most explosive episodes from the archive. This one, from May 2022, with socialist intellectual Daniel Bessner on the role of America on the world stage. We encourage all of you, especially our newest Substack subscribers, to have a listen and tell us what they think in the comments. And if you arenât yet a subscriber, âŚ

Aug 18, 2023 ⢠58min
The Right-Wing Case for Left-Wing Economics
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveCapitalism is a revolutionary force. It is not conservative. So why have conservatives gone along with market fundamentalism for so long? Sohrab Ahmari, a convert to Catholicism, has been known as a culture warrior. This time he returns to the podcast to make a surprising argument. Ahmari, the founder and editor of Compact magazine, argues in his new book Tyranny, Inc., that itâs the economy, stupid. Private power is imposing its own tyranny through tools of economic coercion that exploit workers. Itâs time to redirect attention from the hysteria over âwokenessâ and toward establishing social democratic protections in America. Thatâs a view ubiquitous on the left, but a similar case is being made on the populist right. Sohrab, Shadi, and Damir debate Americaâs economic order, its social contract, and whether the cruelty is the point. Embracing the label âpro-life New Dealer,â Sohrab laments the rightâs obsession with the culture wars and argues that conservatives are losing sight of glaring problems in the economy. The three also delve into how an emboldened state may collide with Sohrabâs socially and culturally conservative values. In the full episode (for paying subscribers only), Shadi, Damir, and Sohrab discuss whether the United States needs to stay âcruelâ in order to remain the worldâs economic leader. If politics is about tradeoffs, is this the one that Americans have to accept? They cover the GOPâs economic stance and what Sohrab sees as the incongruity between the partyâs culturally conservative and pro-market positions. Conservatives appreciate the need for constraints on freedom when it comes to culture and morality. Why are they so resistant to constraints on economic freedom then? Finally the three consider to what extent Protestants and Catholics diverge on key questions of social and economic justiceâand whether Republican Senators like J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Josh Hawley can succeed in ushering in pro-labor policies. Required Reading:* Tyranny, Inc.: How Private Power Crushed American Liberty--and What to Do About It, by Sohrab Ahmari (Amazon).* Compact Magazine, where Sohrab is founder and editor.* Sohrabâs first appearance on Wisdom of Crowds.* The meme Damir referenced about why America doesn't have universal health care.* âOn Conservatism and Capitalism,â by Damir Marusic (Americaâs Future).* The Great Transformation, by Karl Polanyi (Amazon).* The Market Revolution: Jacksonian America 1815-1846, by Charles Sellers (Amazon).* Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation, by Kristin Kobes Du Mez (Amazon).* Abraham Lincolnâs speech at the Wisconsin State Fair. * Of Boys and Men, by Richard Reeves (Amazon).Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Aug 12, 2023 ⢠48min
What's the Meaning of Meaning?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveWeâre living in the most prosperous time in human history with more material abundance and comfort â and yet something just feels⌠off. This week, Shadi Hamid and Samuel Kimbriel take a trip to the heartland to find out what that something is.In this special live recording from the Lyceum Movementâs Tallgrass Ideas Festival in Iowa, Shadi and Sam join political theorist Susan Laehn to grapple with whether a sense of meaning precedes or succeeds happiness. With the live audience jumping in with comments and questions, the three delve into the balance between personal desires and finding collective meaning in a society. Then there is the question of whether freedom, to be truly âfree,â requires constraint. On this there may be some differences. In the full episode (for paying subscribers only), Shadi, Sam, and Susan take on the increasingly challenging question of how to balance individuality and community. There are dangers of going too far in the latter direction. As one audience member challenges the panel, many have fled societies because there was too much communal feeling. And then the Crowd finishes with a conversation about the role of love. It might sound corny, but trust usâitâs not. How can there be meaning without love? And is it possible to have a deeper loveâwith the unconditional forgiveness that that sometimes calls for without God. Required Reading:* Welcoming the Other: Student, Stranger and Divine, by Susan Laehn (Amazon).* âA Radically Condensed History of Post Industrial Life,â by David Foster Wallace.* Escape from Freedom, by Erich Fromm (Amazon).* Friendship as Sacred Knowing: Overcoming Isolation, by Sam Kimbriel (Amazon).* More about the Lyceum Movement.Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Aug 7, 2023 ⢠40min
The Masculine World Is Adrift
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveAt a time of disruption in the workforce, rapidly shifting gender norms, a dearth of role models and declines in mental health, men are facing a distinct set of challenges that are prompting a renewed understanding of masculinity. For the last few years, viral right-of-center personalities have dominated the conversation offering men guidance that much of mainstream media has viewed as radioactive. But as the challenges men face become more apparent, others are recognizing the issue at hand isnât just a right-wing conspiracy.This weekâs guest is our very own Christine Emba who recently wrote a brilliant long-form essay in The Washington Post, âMen are lost. Hereâs a map out of the wildernessâ. Christine scrutinizes both the provocative influencers on masculinity as well as mainstream commentators whoâve denied the problem exists, all while asking what a healthier masculinity looks like that isnât simply femininity. The conversation with Shadi Hamid and Damir Marusic dives into how the decline of religion along with social and economic dislocation have impeded relationship-building. Can a softer masculinity emerge and thrive, or is it simply incompatible in a vigorously competitive world? And what do the worldâs societies risk by leaving men to the wilderness?In the full episode (for paying subscribers only) the three wade into a conversation around how the aspects of masculinity and religion interplay with fascism as they explore variants represented in religious figures including Jesus, King David and the Prophet Muhammad. They also discuss how periods of wartime have shaped menâs sense of purpose.Required Reading:* âMen are lost. Hereâs a map out of the wilderness,â by Christine Emba (The Washington Post).* âThe Ideal Man Exists,â by Christine Emba. (Wisdom of Crowds). * Our epic episode with the pseudonymous writer The Dragoman * Rethinking Sex: A Provocation, by Christine Emba (Amazon).* âWhat if Weâre the Bad Guys?â by David Brooks (The New York Times).* Of Boys and Men, by Richard V. Reeves (Amazon).* War is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, by Chris Hedges (Amazon).* An interview with author Beverly Gage on her book, G-Man, about J. Edgar Hoover (Reason).Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Jul 28, 2023 ⢠1h 1min
An Illiberal Muslim Secedes from America
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveAre Muslim communities increasingly tilting to the right? After about two decades of being alienated by Republicans, American Muslims continue to align themselves with the Democratic Party. But as the country polarizes and the progressive agenda makes gains, writers like our guest find it increasingly untenable for Muslims to continue nodding along with the leftâs conceptions of gender identity, sexuality, and secularism. This week, Shadi Hamid and Damir Marusic talked to The Dragoman, a pseudonymous writer who wrote a fiery provocation in The American Mind titled âMeet Your New Alliesâ, where he makes the case for why Muslims should align themselves with the right to counter the leftâs excesses. This is a provocative and wide-ranging conversation that really gets at how deep difference and philosophical disagreements are difficult to reconcile. You wonât want to miss this one.The three discuss Dragomanâs decision to remain anonymous, whether he considers himself a reactionary, his appeal to the dissident right-wing, and his plans to leave the United States to raise his children. As a believing Muslim himself, Shadi challenges Dragoman to articulate the threat to Western civilization posed by the left and the implications of aligning with the Trump wing of the GOP. In the full episode (for paying subscribers only) Shadi and Dragoman diverge on the role of Islam and democracy in shaping a moral society. It gets heated, leading to one of the more charged exchanges in recent WoC history. They also delve into the influence of Western academia on Muslim thought and the Anglo worldâs limitations in understanding non-Western perspectives. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the generational differences among Muslims.To listen to the full episode, subscribe here. Required Reading:* âMeet Your New Allies,â by Dragoman (The American Mind).* Islamic Exceptionalism: How the Struggle Over Islam Is Reshaping the World, by Shadi Hamid (Amazon).* âSubversive with Alex Kaschutaâ (Apple Podcasts).* âMuslims vs. Democrats: A Story of Betrayal,â by Shadi Hamid (Wall Street Journal)* The Liberal Archipelago: A Theory of Diversity and Freedom, by Chandran Kukathas (Amazon). * âNavigating Differences: Clarifying Sexual and Gender Ethics in Islam,â the statement signed by dozens of American Muslim scholars and imams. Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Jul 14, 2023 ⢠52min
Is the Supreme Court Legitimate?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit wisdomofcrowds.liveDoes the United States Supreme Courtâs legitimacy hang in the balance â or is it itself the balance keeping the union centered?After handing down blockbuster decisions this term on gerrymandering, executive authority and affirmative action, the highest court in the land is facing fierce criticism from progressives in the media and in elected office. This week, we welcomed Washington Post columnist Jason Willick back on the podcast to help us unpack it all. Jason discusses how the Courtâs decision to outlaw affirmative action in higher education was straightforward and popular. But after the Courtâs unpopular decision last year striking down a constitutional right to an abortion, the grounds for accepting the high courtâs rulings based on popularity appears to be all but dependent on whether one finds any given outcome favorable. Shadi Hamid questions the coherence of liberal arguments when it comes to popular decisions that go against the leftâs expectations. Meanwhile, Damir Marusic makes the case that despite it being undeniable the Court operates with political considerations, pretense is a critical aspect to the institutionâs survival.In the full episode (for paying subscribers only) Shadi raises concerns about the perception of the Courtâs legitimacy among Democrats. After threats against the justices and warnings from Democratic lawmakers, the three discuss scenarios that could provoke efforts to stack the deck. The conversation winds down as the guys acknowledge that when it comes down to it, the law is not neutral; it is political.Wisdom of Crowds is a reader-supported publication. To support our work and receive the latest, please subscribe.Required Reading: * âSorry, Democrats, there is no Supreme Court âlegitimacyâ crisis,â by Jason Willick (Washington Post).* âHow John Roberts is outmaneuvering his critics,â by Jason Willick (Washington Post).* âThis is the most mischaracterized Supreme Court case in recent history,â by Jason Willick (Washington Post).* âThe Supreme Court will increasingly control U.S. elections,â by Jason Willick (Washington Post).* âTrumpâs Justices Didnât Doom Affirmative Action. Demography Did.â by Christopher Caldwell (New York Times).* âWhatâs Behind the Conservative Rift on the Supreme Court,â by Sarah Isgur (Politico).* Jasonâs interview with sociologist Nathan Glazer (Wall Street Journal).* Inventing the People, by Edmund Morgan (Amazon).Wisdom of Crowds is a platform challenging premises and understanding first principles on politics and culture. Join us!

Jun 30, 2023 ⢠1h 6min
Is American Decline Inevitable?
Shadi, Christine, and Sam head to Aspen to record a live episode of the show. The crowd gets involved.The broad topic of the conversation was decline. We donât always know how to express it, but many of us feel it: Thereâs something wrong with America today. The mood is tense. More Americans say they wonât have children because of climate change and other future catastrophes. But are things really as bad as they seem? Is decline something we need to acceptâor is there a case for a new optimism?You wonât want to miss this one.Required Reading:* Secondhand Time: The Last of the Soviets, by Svetlana Alexievich (Amazon).* Rethinking Sex: A Provocation, by Christine Emba (Amazon).* Friendship as Sacred Knowing: Overcoming Isolation, by Samuel Kimbriel (Amazon).* âFive Ancient Secrets to Modern Happinessâ, lecture by Tamar Gendler (YouTube). This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wisdomofcrowds.live/subscribe


