Going Rogue

Tansy Gardam
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Aug 28, 2022 • 53min

Going Rogue VI: The Release

In December 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story was released into the world. With six weeks of reshoots, a painfully short edit, an unexpected election and a new composer after the first one dropped out due to "scheduling issues", the film was finally finished - the day before its premiere. But was it successful? And more importantly, was it political? In this final episode of Going Rogue, we look at Rogue One's release, and legacy, and the new life it's about to take in Andor. Rogue One has now fascinated and captivated me for longer than every person who worked on it (expect John Knoll) - but why? What is it the film that haunts my every waking hour? I saw it in IMAX yesterday and I finally clocked Tony Gilroy's cameo. Did you know Tony Gilroy has a cameo in Rogue One? It's just his voice but he's the Rebel traffic controller who asks for their callsign and when Bodhi's like "... Rogue One?" it's Gilroy who says "Rogue One? There is no Rogue One?!" and honestly what a choice to make for the cameo. Gareth Edwards launches the Tantive V and saves the rebellion. Gilroy says "There is no Rogue One". What a choice. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com CLIPS:  - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story  - Moving On (Michael Giacchino, Lost)  - Your Father Would Be Proud (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)  - Star Wars Main Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope)  - Rey's Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode VI: The Force Awakens)  - The Clone Wars Main Theme (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)  - Ahsoka Leaves (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)  - Trials of the Darksabre (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: Rebels)  - Reminiscence Therapy (John Powell, Solo: A Star Wars Story)  - A Long Ride Ahead (Alternate Ending) (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Soundtrack Expanded Edition)  - The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller  - The Filmumentaries Podcast: 35 - Colin Goudie - Editor of Monsters and Rogue One MUSIC: "Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission", "Bicycle", "I Can Feel It Coming", "Screen Saver", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "Black Vortex", "Floating Cities", "Ever Mindful", "Wisp of Whorls" & "Concentration" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation", "Proxima Centuri" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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Aug 21, 2022 • 56min

Going Rogue V: The Reshoots

In 2001, The Bourne Identity went through four rounds of reshoots, after going massively over budget and over schedule. The final product, partly directed and potentially edited by producer Frank Marshall instead of director Doug Liman, was a hit. Liman wasn't invited back for the sequel, but writer Tony Gilroy was. In 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story went through six weeks of reshoots and a massive, post-directors cut re-edit, under the guidance of Tony Gilroy - initially as a writer, and later as a lot more. Lucasfilm would essentially bury his role during the film's promotion, but thanks to the Writers Guild of America, Gilroy got a screenplay credit. To do so, he essentially had to remake Rogue One. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com CLIPS: The Bourne Identity Access Granted: Screenwriter Tony Gilroy Get Out Original Ending with Director Jordan Peele's Commentary Happy Sad Confused: Chris Weitz The Moment with Brian Koppelman: Tony Gilroy (2018) Rogue One: A Star Wars Story MUSIC: "Industrial Cinematic", "Hitman", "Black Vortex",  "Hero Down", "Concentration", "Hiding Your Reality", "Bleeping Demo", "The Complex", "Scissors", "Screensaver", "Peace of Mind", "Floating Cities", "Stay the Course", "Anguish", "Prelude & Action", "Lost Frontier", "Wisps of Whorls", "On the Shore" & "Rynos Theme" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation" & "The Paladin's Underworld" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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Aug 14, 2022 • 50min

Going Rogue IV: The Edit

By early 2016, Rogue One had wrapped shooting and moved into the edit. Editors Jabez Olssen and Colin Goudie had been cutting the film since the day cameras rolled, but with director Gareth Edwards's loose, unplanned shooting style and habit of shooting images over story, the edit would take, according to Edwards, "three years". They had nine months. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a complete different team were pouring over the Rogue One rushes to create a much shorter version of the film that would be seen by far more people: the trailers. Notably different to the films, the trailers have been the source of Rogue One conspiracy theories since the film's release, but was the film ever anything like the trailers? And were the trailers ever anything like the film? You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com CLIPS: - E.C. Henry's Rogue One Editor Interview: Colin Goudie (spoiler-free) - The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller - The Filmmakers Podcast - How To Edit A Star Wars Movie with Rogue One and Monsters Editor Colin Goudie - A New Hope (George Lucas, 1977) - Star Wars & The Empire Strikes Back Trailers (Lucasfilm, 1976 & 1979) - Rogue One Trailers (Lucasfilm, 2016) - Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Lucasfilm, 2017) MUSIC: "Jet Fueled Vixen", "Floating Cities", "Odyssey", "Lost Frontier", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "The Complex", "Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Prelude", "Envision", "Prelude & Action", "Industrial Cinematic", "Lithium", "Intrepid" & "I Can Feel It Coming" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation" & "I Domine" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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Aug 7, 2022 • 53min

Going Rogue III: The Shoot

In August 2015, cameras rolled on Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - and they rolled, and rolled. Gareth Edwards's unconventional shooting style emphasised improvisation not just in performance but also in blocking, camera placement, lighting and all other elements of filming. The film's two distinct shooting styles, initially separated as Empire and Rebellion, started to blur, and the pursuit of shots that felt good often overshadowed the script. The script, which was still changing, being passed between multiple script doctors after the shoot began. Find out which of your favourite Oscar nominated writer/directors did a pass on Rogue One (number 3 might surprise you!). Also, find out which cast member would start each take by singing the Frozen soundtrack. Edwards shot first, but that might change in the special edition. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com CLIPS:  - E.C. Henry's Rogue One Editor Interview: Colin Goudie (spoiler-free)  - The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller  - The Filmmakers Podcast - How To Edit A Star Wars Movie with Rogue One and Monsters Editor Colin Goudie MUSIC: "Floating Cities", "Bleeping Demo", "Concentration", "Half Mystery", "Vanishing", "I Can Feel It Coming", "Scissors", "Magic Scout - Cottages", "Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission", "Twisting", "Prelude & Action", "Night Vigil" & "Stormfront" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation", "Promixa Centauri" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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Jul 31, 2022 • 56min

Going Rogue II: The Script

In 2013, Gareth Edwards pretended he was going to get lunch, and instead went to a meeting with Kiri Hart at Lucasfilm. He was one of a handful of promising young directors who'd been handpicked to direct a new Star Wars film, off the strength of his low-budget debut Monsters. Edwards was offered Destroyer of Worlds, originally pitched by VFX legend and Edwards's personal hero, John Knoll.  Gary Whitta went into his meeting at Lucasfilm surprised to be considered for a film project at all, but his ideas hit the right note, naming basically every major influence Knoll had listed in his pitch. Whitta would write the first draft and come up with the film's title, Rogue One, before being replaced by Chris Weitz, Oscar nominated writer and noted Boba Fett hater. In the middle of all of this was Colin Goudie, an editor hired twelve months before Rogue One even started shooting, tasked with making the film out of other films. Welcome to the messy, contradictory world of Rogue One's script. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com CLIP SOURCES:  - The Sci Fi Talks Podcast  - The Rule of Two  - The Filumentarians  - The Director's Cut  - IGN's  WFH Rogue One Livestream MUSIC: "Bleeping Demo", "Hiding Your Reality", "Concentration", "Dreamcatcher", "Industrial Cinematic", "Stormfront", "Rynos Theme", "Ever Mindful", "Envision", "Anguish", "Twisting", "Lost Frontier", "Prelude & Action", "Stay the Course" & "Magic Scout" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation", "Void Glider" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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Jul 24, 2022 • 47min

Going Rogue I: The Pitch

In 2003, John Knoll heard a rumour on the set of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. It sparked a chain of events that would span two decades, several films and one massive corporate takeover, and would finally result in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. This is the story of Rogue One, told by someone who has spent more time thinking about the film than anyone who worked on it (except John Knoll). Each episode of Going Rogue covers a different phase of the film's life and the different lives it lived, from TV episode to low budget war movie to $200million franchise blockbuster.  You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com MUSIC: "Hiding Your Reality", "Floating Cities", "Industrial Cinematic", "Phantom from Space", "Hitman", "Late Night Radio", "Screen Saver", "Odyssey", Sincerely", "Dreaming Flashback" & "Lithium"  Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

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