

Water Values Podcast
Dave McGimpsey
The Water Values Podcast series is presented in collaboration with Bluefield Research. This podcast series explores water issues from a variety of perspectives with the goal of uncovering the true value of water. Each episode will delve into one aspect of water, such as water utilities, water treatment, water resources, water reuse, and more.
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Feb 15, 2022 • 36min
The Manila Water Concessions and Philippine Water Privatization with Iris Gonzales
Iris Gonzales, Philippine Star reporter and columnist, provides an eye-opening discussion on water in the Philippines and the Manila water concessions. Iris also explains the impact of the recently enacted legislative franchises granted by the Filipino government.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Iris’ coverage of water in the PhilippinesHow the Philippines set up water utilities after achieving independence on July 4, 1946Why President Ramos privatized the water utility industry in the PhilippinesWhere President Ramos got the idea to privatize the water utility industryThe background on the Manila water utility concessionsWhy Manila split its water utility concessions between an East Zone and a West ZoneHow the Manila water concessions are ––structuredHow the Manila water concessionaires are regulatedThe legislative franchise the Congress of the Philippines enacted for the concessionaires How the legislative franchise interfaces with the Manila water concessionsWhy the legislative franchise provides a safety net for the concessionaires’ investment in water infrastructureWhether privatization improved water utility service in the PhilippinesIris’ take on the Filipino view of water as a right
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Iris’ page on the Philippine Star’s websiteIris’ Twitter handle & Instagram handle: @eyesgonzalesManila’s Metropolitan Water and Sewerage Service webpage explaining the concessions
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Feb 1, 2022 • 43min
Mississippi v. Tennessee and Its Implications for State Water Policy with Robin Craig
Robin Craig, the Robert C. Packard Trustee Chair in Law at USC Gould School of Law and long-time water law professor, joins us to discuss the background, arguments and holding in Mississippi v. Tennessee, and provides some insights on what the case might mean for State water policy moving forward.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Robin’s extensive background in water lawThe factual background of Mississippi v. TennesseeThe procedural history of Mississippi v. TennesseeWhy Mississippi sued Tennessee and not the actual entity pumping the waterWhat Mississippi’s claim wasWhat the briefings revealed about the parties’ positionsThe issues the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) probed during oral argumentsWhat the SCOTUS held in Mississippi v. TennesseeWhat equitable apportionment isHow equitable apportionment interfaces and impacts compacts between the StatesHow the SCOTUS’ holding might impact State compact negotiations over water rights (and potentially other natural resources)How the holding of Mississippi v. Tennessee might impact other conflicts among the States over groundwater
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Robin’s LinkedIn PageRobin’s bio on the USC Gould School of Law Faculty PageThe Supreme Court of the United States Opinion in Mississippi v. TennesseeRobin’s blog post on SCOTUSblog about the case
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Jan 18, 2022 • 33min
A Heart-Based Approach to Industrial Water Treatment with Christina Lundbäck
Christina Lundbäck provides a fascinating discussion of SurfCleaner and its applications to remove contaminants from water at wastewater treatment plants, industrial facilities, ports, harbors, and spills.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What SurfCleaner isHow the technology behind SurfCleaner was developedHow SurfCleaner was developed based on the human heartHow SurfCleaner worksHow SurfCleaner helps separate and capture floating solidsHow SurfCleaner helps remove oil and fuel from waterHow reduced emissions is a byproduct of SurfCleanerWhy industrial applications are ideal for SurfCleanerWhy pretreatment applications are ideal for SurfCleanerWhy “upstream” applications are ideal for SurfCleanerThe difficulties of using SurfCleaner in the open sea and oceanHow SurfCleaner differs from traditional skimmersChristina’s SurfCleaner leave-behind message
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Christina’s LinkedIn PageSurfCleaner’s website
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Jan 4, 2022 • 43min
How the Association of State Drinking Water Administrators Views Upcoming Issues
Water industry veteran and Association of State Drinking Administrators (ASDWA) Executive Director Alan Roberson discusses the big issues facing the water sector from a state regulatory perspective. Plus, Reese Tisdale joins us for a Bluefield on Tap segment.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What ASDWA isASDWA’s membershipThe priorities in 2022 for state drinking water regulatorsWhy the Lead and Copper Rule is the most complex regulation to administerHow the Lead and Copper Rule interplays with the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and the service line inventory periodsHow state drinking water administrators view compliance and enforcementASDWA’s perspective on PFASHow PFAS regulation might unfoldHow ASDWA interfaces with the U.S. EPAHow ASDWA looks at cybersecurity for drinking water systemsHow ASDWA views the upcoming funding from the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Alan’s LinkedIn PageASDWA’s website
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Dec 21, 2021 • 49min
The Year in Water 2021 with Cathy Bailey, OJ McFoy and Cindy Wallis-Lage
An all-star panel of water leaders participate in a roundtable discussion about what happened in the year that was 2021 and provide insights on what 2022 might hold for the water sector.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Each panelist’s takeaways from 2021Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) funding issuesWhy the IIJA needs to be a “down payment” on our infrastructure rather than a one-time investmentWhy our panelists are worried about small and medium sized utilitiesHow larger utilities can help small and medium sized utilitiesWhy access to infrastructure funds need to be simplifiedHow we can help our communities understand water’s role in building our communitiesHow historic underinvestment in infrastructure has and is manifesting itselfHow affordability took on an even bigger role in 2021Innovation and the role of technology for utilities moving forwardOur panelists’ favorite holiday traditions
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Cathy’s LinkedIn PageOJ’s LinkedIn PageCindy’s LinkedIn Page
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Dec 7, 2021 • 33min
All about charity: water with Chief Global Water Officer Christoph Gorder
Christoph Gorder, Chief Global Water Officer, blows us away with a deep dive on charity: water and its work.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
How Christoph transitioned from disaster relief to charity: watercharity: water’s missionHow charity: water’s unique structure helps it achieve successHow charity: water overcame one of the unique fundraising challengesWhy clean water helps reduce infant mortality rates, increase literacy rates and increase incomeHow much it costs charity: water to implement a water projectHow charity: water uses technologyWhat technology solutions charity: water deploysHow the technology solutions benefit rural communitiesHow climate change impacts the populations served by charity: waterThe steps charity: water takes to ensure its projects are resilient to climate changeHow charity: water interacts with governments where its projects are locatedHow to get involved with charity: water
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Christoph’s LinkedIn Pagecharity: water’s website
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Nov 16, 2021 • 33min
Outcome Based Contracting with Woodard & Curran CEO Alyson Watson
Alyson Watson, CEO of Woodard & Curran, delivers a tour de force performance explaining why the water industry needs a fresh approach to delivering services and advocating for an outcome based contracting approach focused on trust and empathy.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Alyson’s background as a “water brat”Alyson’s perspective on the prevailing mode of project deliveryWhy shifting to an outcome based approach makes more senseHow risk can be shifted to the private sector to facilitate an outcome based approach What needs to happen to shift to an outcome based approachWhy trust is key to this outcome based approachHow empathy factors into the trust equationHow water leaders can foster outcome based contracting in their organizationsSeveral case studies that demonstrate the benefits of outcome based contractingHow outcome based approaches might have ancillary benefits, such as employee retentionAlyson’s ideas to foster collaboration in the water industry How outcome based approaches and collaboration can help combat climate change
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Alyson’s LinkedIn PageWoodard & Curran’s website
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Nov 2, 2021 • 42min
Water Use on Military Installations with Cameron Craig
Cameron was a civilian employee working on a U.S. Army base before moving to a military contractor. Cameron gives a terrific interview shining a light on water issues on military installations in this U.S. Army approved interview.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Cameron’s backgroundWhy water is important to the armed forcesWater needs and use on military basesCameron’s role as a civilian working on water issues for the U.S. Army The collaboration on water issues between the military and civilians on military installationsWater and the impact of COVID-19 on military installationsHow the military used wastewater epidemiology to build a predictive analytics model to monitor the spread of COVID-19 on military basesThe collaboration among the local university, the civilian water team, and the military on developing the wastewater epidemiology modelWhy wastewater epidemiology models are system specific Water and sustainability on military basesClean water issues for field based military units Cameron’s thoughts on military sustainability and resilience
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Cameron’s LinkedIn PageConcurrent Technology Corporation’s website
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Oct 19, 2021 • 42min
Is Demand Management the Answer on the Colorado River?
James Eklund returns to The Water Values Podcast for a third time to provide an argument for why demand management is critical to the future of the Colorado River.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What James has been up to since his last podcast appearanceA brief history of the Colorado River CompactHow the Upper Basin and Lower Basin came to beHow climate change has impacted the Colorado River CompactWhat demand management isHow demand management and water banking worked in the Lower BasinThe creation of the water banking account in the Upper BasinWhy demand management represents a viable solution for Upper Basin StatesHow demand management can stem the proliferation of “buy and dry”Why demand management hasn’t taken off in the Upper BasinWhy only sovereigns can “bank” water & the lawsuit behind itJames’ thoughts on where we go from here on the Colorado River
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
James’ LinkedIn PageEklund Hanlon’s websiteSaving the Colorado River: How Demand Management Can Save the Colorado River, article by James Eklund
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Oct 5, 2021 • 41min
Tampa Bay Water’s Practical Approach to Digital Transformation with Alison Adams
Alison Adams, now Chief Technology Officer at INTERA, drove innovation at Tampa Bay Water when she helped pioneer Tampa Bay Water’s digital transformation. Alison provides firsthand knowledge about how to design a program for digital transformation, how to get employee buy in, and the benefits your utility will achieve along the way. Plus Reese Tisdale joins us for another Bluefield on Tap segment.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
How Alison’s upbringing on a farm helped form her appreciation of the importance water
How an environmental issue led to Tampa Bay Water’s need to make the digital transformation
Why Tampa Bay Water needed to address groundwater pumping
The Floridian aquifer system and its relation to surface water
Tampa Bay Water’s early adoption of the digital transformation over two decades ago
The four defined steps needed to be undertaken in a utility’s digital transformation
How breaking down internal silos helped the digital transformation process
How Tampa Bay Water built a decision support system
What some of the bumps in the road were
How to message that the technology will not replace workers and jobs but will help them do their jobs better–how to create quick wins
How Tampa Bay Water’s digital transformation achieved its original goal–environmental recovery–and found new benefits along the way
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Press Release when Alison joined INTERA
Press Release on Alison’s recent promotion to Chief Technical Officer at INTERA
Tampa Bay Water’s website
INTERA’s website
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