

Water Values Podcast
Dave McGimpsey
The Water Values Podcast series is presented in collaboration with Bluefield Research. This podcast series explores water issues from a variety of perspectives with the goal of uncovering the true value of water. Each episode will delve into one aspect of water, such as water utilities, water treatment, water resources, water reuse, and more.
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Jan 17, 2023 • 39min
The Birth, Life, and Death of Lakes with Professor John Richard Saylor
John Richard Saylor, Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Clemson University, provides a fascinating look at lakes and things you didn’t know about them. He provides examples of unique lakes around the world and offers a warning about natural resources and the human tendency to deplete them.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
The unique circumstances that brought Prof. Saylor to lake research
Prof. Saylor’s lake research and some fascinating aspects of lakes
How lakes store carbon dioxide and can cause an explosion of the lake
What causes thermal stratification of lakes
What Carolina Bays are and the mystery behind how they were formed
Subglacial lakes and how chemosynthesis drives lake ecology
How subglacial lakes were formed and were discovered
Why glaciers are the “master builder” of lakes
Several ways that lakes die
The story of the Aral Sea (which in reality is a lake) and its warning for the Great Salt Lake
How salt lakes form
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Prof. Saylor’s Clemson University profile
John Richard Saylor’s webpage
Amazon page for Prof. Saylor’s Book: Lakes: Their Birth, Life and Death

Jan 3, 2023 • 46min
A Refreshing Vision for Water with Metropolitan’s Adel Hagekhalil
Water rock star Adel Hagekhalil imparts a powerful vision for leadership in the water sector through the lens of his work at Metropolitan. Plus, Reese Tisdale kicks off our Bluefield on Tap segment by providing his top 5 water issues to be on the lookout for in 2023.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
How Adel’s life has changed since he was last on in 2019
Why Metropolitan declared a regional drought emergency and what it means
How Metropolitan is experiencing a “Second Mulholland Moment”
The programs Metropolitan is developing and implementing to promote conservation and create sustainable supplies
How Adel promotes an inclusive and cooperative approach through his “We are one” program
What Adel means by building a “virtual aqueduct”
How Adel coalesced support from a divided board
The biggest surprises Adel encountered after coming to Metropolitan
The 5 principles Adel adopted in his business plan for Metropolitan
Why embracing partnership, not partisanship, is so important on water issues
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Adel’s LinkedIn profile
Metropolitan’s website
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Dec 20, 2022 • 44min
The Year in Water 2022 with Robert Puente, Tony Parrott, and Alyson Watson
An all-star panel of water leaders, including Alyson Watson, Tony Parrott, and Robert Puente, discuss the year that was in water and share insights and perspectives on the water sector.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Our panelists’ discussion of affordability in the face of inflation
How SAWS addressed fairness in rate design during 2022
Louisville MSD’s affordability and equity programs
Woodard & Curran’s experience creating efficiencies in system operations and capital planning that promote affordability
Louisville MSD’s success in regionalism initiatives
SAWS’s challenges with regionalism
Alyson’s perspective on water technology and adoption in 2022 and the “adoption hurdle”
How SAWS demonstrated ROI for its smart meter program and overcame the “adoption hurdle”
Louisville MSD’s use of technology in capital planning, integration of assets into real time operations, and implementation of AI
Key takeaways for the year 2022 from each panel member
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Robert’s bio on the SAWS website
Tony’s LinkedIn profile
Alyson’s LinkedIn profile

Dec 6, 2022 • 41min
Water Security through Remote Sensing with Virridy’s Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas, an environmental engineering professor at the University of Colorado – Boulder, details the fascinating story of Virridy and how Virridy promotes water security through remote sensing. Plus, Reese Tisdale joins us for the final Bluefield on Tap of 2022.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
How a bioastronautics Ph.D. became an environmental engineering professorWhy Evan founded Virridy to facilitate water security in drought prone regions in AfricaHow Evan identified the date gap that Virridy filledHow the sensing technology worksHow Virridy connects sensing data to satellite dataHow Virridy leverages predictive analytics and machine learning to “pre-position” water supplies and food suppliesHow and why Virridy imported its technology to the U.S.The needs Virridy’s sensory and satellite linked technology fill in the U.S.How Virridy facilitates demand response programs by electric utilitiesWhere Evan sees sensing technology and data usage in driving water policyHow Virridy’s technology fits in the water-energy-food security nexusHow Virridy provides basic water security through carbon credits and climate financing
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Evan’s LinkedIn profileVirridy’s website
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Nov 15, 2022 • 46min
Inside the Profits of Distrust with Manny Teodoro
Manny Teodoro returns to discuss his new co-authored book, The Profits of Distrust. Manny lends his keen insights and explains the tenets of the book in a clear and concise manner. His findings, all backed by substantial evidence, will definitely surprise you and should cause utility leaders to sit up and take notice.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Manny’s COVID experience moving during the pandemic and starting a new jobWhy Manny and his co-authors wrote The Profits of DistrustThe relationship between the increase in commercial water consumption and the decrease in the trust in government and institutionsThe populations that distrust government most, which in turn causes those populations to buy commercial waterThe socio-economic class that drinks tap waterThe socio-economic class that drinks commercial waterWhat it means when a consumer “exits” tap waterWhy utility leaders need to worry about consumers that exit tap waterWhy the silence of the customer base has an ethnic accentWhy utilities need to operate with excellence, openness and equity to rebuild trust Key components of the co-authors’ plan to achieve excellence, openness and equity
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Manny’s LinkedIn profileManny’s websiteThe Profits of Distrust at the Cambridge University Press website
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Nov 1, 2022 • 43min
Net Zero: The Race We All Win with Xylem’s Austin Alexander
Austin Alexander, Vice President of Sustainability and Social Impact at Xylem, lays out key features of Xylem’s new report, Net Zero: The Race We All Win. Austin delves into simple ways to start on the path to net zero and enhancers to achieve net zero in the water industry. Plus, Reese Tisdale joins us for another Bluefield on Tap segment talking desalination.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Austin’s journey to the water sector (it started in middle school!)Austin’s work on decarbonizing the water sectorXylem’s new report, Net Zero: The Race We All WinWhy net zero is not a scary termHow to take the first step toward net zeroSimple strategies utilities can take to reduce their carbon footprintEasy ways to integrate decarbonization into capital planningHow to use what you have smarterHow most electric related emissions can be reduced 50% at cost savings or at least cost savingsStrategies for making the net zero story tangible to decision makers and the publicExamples of utilities around the world that are experiencing success and making progress toward net zero
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Austin’s LinkedIn profileXylem’s websiteLink to download the Net Zero: The Race We All Win
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Oct 18, 2022 • 44min
Next Level Asset Management with MentorAPM Co-founder & CEO Tacoma Zach
MentorAPM Co-founder & CEO, Tacoma Zach, takes us on a fantastic ride covering asset management and how it helps utilities manage their most important assets.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Tacoma’s work history domestically and internationally, including interesting perspectives on the impact of different governments and financial systems on project successWhat asset management isHigh level overview of ISO 55000 Why making risk-based decision is so important to asset managementWhy the water sector needs asset managementHow “level of service” impacts asset managementWhy “minimum level of service” trips people upTacoma’s car analogy. Trust me – it’s fantastic!How asset management helps utilities optimize their spendingHow to get good, quality data for asset management decision-making
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Tacoma’s LinkedIn profileMentorAPM’s websiteInternational Organization for Standards’ ISO 55000
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Oct 4, 2022 • 43min
Localized Water Infrastructure with Melissa Kelly and Caroline Koch
Melissa Kelly, Staff Director and Attorney for the Center for Land, Environment, and Natural Resources at the University of California, Irvine School of Law, and Caroline Koch, Water Policy Director for WaterNow Alliance, provide an enlightening discussion on localized water infrastructure. Plus, Reese Tisdale joins us for another Bluefield on Tap segment.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Melissa’s work with the Center for Land, Environment, and Natural Resources (CLEANR)Caroline’s work with the WaterNow AllianceWhat we mean by localized water infrastructureDiscrete examples of localized water infrastructure projects in multiple geographies in the U.S.:Turf replacement in NevadaGreen infrastructure project in WisconsinSource water protection project in ArkansasThe One Water nature of localized water infrastructure projectsHow to provide incentives to undertake localized water infrastructure projectsHow localized water infrastructure projects supplement rather than replace centralized systemsHow localized water infrastructure projects support workforce development at favorable wagesWhat barriers prevent broader implementation of localized water infrastructure projectsHow to overcome the barriers to greater deployment of localized water infrastructure
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Kelly’s LinkedIn profileCaroline’s LinkedIn profileCLEANR’s websiteWaterNow Alliance’s websiteLink to download the Tap into Resilience: Pathways for Localized Water Infrastructure report
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Sep 20, 2022 • 38min
Supercritical Water Oxidation – A PFAS Solution with 374Water’s Marc Deshusses
374Water’s Marc Deshusses provides unique insights on supercritical water oxidation and its ability to destroy PFAS. Marc also discusses his early efforts to harness the power of supercritical water oxidation, overcoming technological obstacles, and the path towards commercialization.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What supercritical water oxidation isWhat supercritical water oxidation does (hint: it will not only remove stains from your laundry, it will eviscerate your laundry)How Marc applied for and received funding in 2013 from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Reinvent the Toilet ChallengeThe history of technical challenges for supercritical water oxidation that blocked prior commercialization attemptsThe best applications for supercritical water oxidationThe undesirable compounds in biosolids that supercritical water oxidation treats Why landfill operators don’t like biosolids deposited in their landfillsThe outputs of supercritical water oxidation: clean water, waste heat and resource recovery (including phosphorous)How supercritical water oxidation treats and destroys PFAS and other emerging contaminantsWhy supercritical water oxidation is, in Marc’s view, the best option to treat and destroy PFAS
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Marc’s LinkedIn profile374Water’s websiteEPA Announcement on Proposed Rule Designating PFAS as a Hazardous Substance under CERCLA
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Sep 6, 2022 • 38min
Calling All Future Water Leaders! with AWWA’s Barb Martin
The AWWA’s Barb Martin (Director of Engineering and Technical Services) discusses the fantastic opportunity to participate in the inaugural Transformative Water Leadership Academy. Reese Tisdale also appears for a Bluefield on Tap segment discussing the Jackson, MS, crisis and the SouthWest Water-Corix tie up.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What the Transformative Water Leadership Academy (TWLA) isWhy it’s necessaryThe details of the program – what is required, time commitment (it’s not overwhelming!), the size, and other issuesWhat the AWWA and WaterNow Alliance are looking for in TWLA candidatesWhy diversity is important for the applicant poolThe types of skills participants will developThe “faculty” of the TWLAOpportunities to volunteer for the programHow the TWLA will promote the triple bottom line of social, environmental and financial performanceHow to apply – September 15, 2022 is the application deadline for the inaugural cohortInformation about The Water Values Podcast scholarship for the TWLA
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Barb’s LinkedIn profileTransformative Water Leadership Academy (TWLA) websiteApplication for the TWLA Program
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