
InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant & Robin Merttens
Bringing together the best technology and innovation for insurance and risk management together from around the world. Podcast hosted by Matthew Grant.
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Nov 3, 2024 • 32min
Kiran Aulakh, VP, Fixed Advisory Asset Services: Kroll: Property rebuild valuation - understanding underinsurance (327)
How can impartial valuations drive transparency and trust in insurance?
Kroll’s platform provides property valuations through data-driven insights that benefit insurers, brokers and property owners alike.
Matthew Grant sits down with Kiran Aulakh, Kroll's VP of Fixed Asset Advisory, to explore how Kroll’s platform combines technology and real-time data to assess underinsurance and overinsurance risks across vast property portfolios.
Kiran shares her insights on the value of green valuations, and the importance of impartial assessments, which Kroll provides through both an API and a standalone platform for seamless integration into clients' ecosystems.
Key talking points:
The role of impartial valuations in improving insurer-client trust
How Kroll’s platform combines technology with in-person expertise
Reducing claims friction by accurately assessing property insurance needs
Using valuation data to better negotiate policy terms for clients
Kroll’s partnership with WTW and global insurers to streamline valuation assessments
Real-time data updates and third-party integration for accurate market responses
Green valuations and the impact of ESG on future property valuation trends
Aulakh’s thoughts on data scalability and how it supports insurer-broker collaboration
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Describe the role of impartial valuations in managing underinsurance and overinsurance risks.
Define the impact of valuation accuracy on insurance policy terms and claims outcomes.
Measure the importance of transparent valuations in fostering stronger insurer-client relationships.
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 327 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
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Oct 27, 2024 • 24min
George Devereese, Product Management Director: S&P Global Market Intelligence: Shining light on dark shipping activity (326)
How do you shed light on ‘dark shipping activity’?
S&P Global Market Intelligence aims to support insurers throughout the entire insurance value chain by providing critical data and insights.
Matthew Grant is joined by George Devereese, who monitors and tracks shipping around the world to screen them against various forms of liabilities. This data is passed onto markets such as the insurance world, to build a better and fuller picture for the insurance contract.
A key aspect of this process involves identifying and understanding the risks associated with illicit or ‘dark’ shipping activities.
Key talking points include:
How are the analytics provided helping insurers?
Why all navigation is a timestamp.
What is AIS and how can it help an insurer understand a ship’s history?
Understanding a ship’s risk - from tracking to insurance contracts
Driving frigates and hunting pirates - George’s time in the Navy
On becoming ‘dark’ - are there exemptions to turning off AIS?
Collaborating with Concirrus
Cross pollination of data - understanding a bigger and better picture for underwriting risk
New launches in S&P Global Market Intelligence’s portal looking ahead to the future
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Describe how data on a ship’s movement can better inform an underwriter’s decision
Explain what an AIS is, why this can be manipulated by some vessels, and how this affects the underwriter
Define dark shipping activity and why it is important to understand its implications in insurance
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 326 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
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Oct 20, 2024 • 23min
Benjamin Turner & Thomas Swire: Salesforce: More than just a CRM (325)
Ben Turner joked that he’d “be a rich man for every pound [he] had somebody asking” what Salesforce has to offer the insurance world.
Robin Merttens is joined this week by Ben Turner and Tom Swire at Salesforce, who touch on their journey to joining the company, the trouble with legacy systems and the exciting prospects for the future including an agency management system to be launched in 2025.
If you enjoyed this conversation and would like to hear more, our October evening event hosted in collaboration with Salesforce and Azur Technology was recorded. The videos will be available on our website soon.
Key talking points include:
On working as an underwriter or in insurance market standards to joining Salesforce - the journey
Salesforce’s place in insurance
The importance of the workbench
Case studies from the front line - N2G and Crux Underwriting
The Salesforce approach to AI - creating your own bot
Looking ahead to the future - all the exciting launches
A match made in heaven - working with ecosystems and partners
Transformation - making the unknown and scary just that tiny bit more familiar
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Describe how Salesforce operates in the insurance sector and the benefit of pre-built templates
Specify how a CRM system can be a strong foundation for building an underwriting workbench
Explain how ecosystems work and how do you pick a successful partner
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 325 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Oct 13, 2024 • 23min
Ben Laidlaw, Managing Director: Carbon Underwriting: The Delegated Underwriting Specialists (324)
Determined to write delegated business better, Ben Laidlaw joined Nick Tye and Jacqui Ferrier to found Carbon Underwriting.
Carbon Underwriting is a Lloyd’s Syndicate MGU that provides shareable underwriting conclusions on its Graphene administration system.
The company has matured since its conception in 2018, and Ben discusses navigating ‘Decile 10’ to gaining approval for Carbon’s second syndicate earlier this year, which will exclusively underwrite US business.
Key talking points:
The story behind the creation of Carbon Underwriting and growth in the Lloyd’s market
The thinking behind the second syndicate
US business - why enter a competitive market?
Smart syndication
Graphene - who built it and what’s so good about it?
Plans for the rest of this year and 2025
On being Private Equity owned and waxing lyrical
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Specify what issues were in the delegated business market and what changes did Carbon Underwriting seek to solve
Define what ‘Decile 10’ is and how it changed the Lloyd’s Market
Summarise why smart syndication is and why it is a growing and exciting aspect in the Lloyd’s Market
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 324 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Oct 6, 2024 • 20min
Liselotte Munk, CEO: Fadata: Expanding to new horizons (323)
Fadata’s CEO, Liselotte Munk, returns to the InsTech podcast with Robin Merttens to discuss the company’s recent developments, including its expansion to APAC and South America.
Discover in this episode the intricacies of running a policy admin system provider, where Liselotte thinks the market is heading to next and the challenges with entering new regions.
Key talking points include:
The market’s maturity and the problems this may pose.
Running a business when policy admin system changes are rare
Working around compliance
Working with a new generation of tech-savy insurers
Culture shocks upon entering new markets
Navigating a highly competitive marketing with key players
Using AI in Fadata
Ecosystems versus agnostic systems provider - which is best?
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Describe why implementing a new policy admin system may pose issues for an insurer.
Specify what markets across the globe are expanding and are interesting for new entrants in insurtech.
Explain why you need to change your business model and approach when entering new global markets.
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 323 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Sep 29, 2024 • 26min
Mike Hobday, CEO: Insurants: Falling in love with document processing (322)
According to Mike Hobday, CEO of Insurants, the company is “a bit like being the Google Translator of the commercial insurance market”.
Insurants is developed by Antworks in collaboration with Marsh McLennan to help commercial insurance companies manage and process their documents.
This week, Matthew caught up with Mike, who previously having spent 12 years at IBM, witnessed early AI automation with the likes of Watson, through which he fell in love with document processing. At Insurants, Mike is bridging the language barrier (so to speak) between data that flows between brokers and carriers.
Key talking points include:
The importance of summarisation - courtesy of the InsTech AI bot intern
Falling in love with document processing - Mike’s career journey
What is the current problem with document processing in insurance
The Periodic Table
Insurants accuracy - working with Marsh
Commonality between insurance and the left side of the brain
Moving business back to the UK
Vital advice for small carriers and brokers
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Mike Hodbay or Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Explain the issues with document processing in the insurance industry and why automation is the solution.
Identify different types of documents used in insurance and their purpose.
Summarise ways in which a carrier can integrate a document processing AI system into their workflow.
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 322 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Sep 22, 2024 • 22min
Gilbert Harrap & Michael Watson: InsurX: Smart Syndication and Wise Owls (321)
This week we are combining youthful enthusiasm with sage wisdom on the podcast, as Robin Merttens speaks to InsurX’s CEO, Gilbert Harrap and Chairman, Michael Watson. InsurX is a platform that enables insurers and brokers to undertake portfolio underwriting, automated contract binding, algorithmic underwriting and instant risk matching.
Touching on the importance of driving digitisation in the London Market, Michael also shares highlights from his distinguished career, with a focus on his success at Canopius and his reasons for joining InsurX.
An important episode for all those interested in digital trading, algorithmic underwriting and the future of the London Market.
Key talking points include:
The Hot Topic - digital trading solutions and an introduction to
Never close to being at the “end” of a career - looking back at career achievements
Wise owls and youthful enthusiasm - the perfect pairing?
Plans for fundraising
Development in the London Market - where are we at?
The tension between centralised infrastructure and entrepreneurs
What is next for InsurX and the potential to bring digital trading beyond portfolio underwriting
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Describe what is a digital trading platform in insurance and why is it important in the context of the London Market
Explain why bringing new tools is difficult in a centralised infrastructure like insurance, and how companies can work around this issue
Identify reasons why it is valuable to mix young entrepreneurs with industry veterans when building out a new tool
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 321 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Sep 15, 2024 • 38min
Yann Barbarroux, Co-founder & CEO: Otonomi: Parametric payout for a disrupted world (320)
According to Yann Barbarroux, Co-founder and CEO of Otonomi, “every year is like starting a new company”. It has been a year since we last caught up with Otonomi, and Matthew reconnects with Yann to discuss how parametric insurance helps mitigate supply chain risks, particularly in situations where traditional insurance falls short.
Key topics include:
Addressing pain points in maritime freight and global trade
Developing and refining parametric insurance products
Real-world case studies demonstrating Otonomi’s solutions
Strategies for managing accumulation risk
Yann’s expertise in risk management and its influence on Otonomi’s approach
Expansion of the air cargo market and new maritime product offerings
Growing awareness and adoption of parametric insurance
Leveraging AI to scale and enhance business operations
Otonomi’s global expansion plans and future funding strategies
If you are interested to learn more about parametric insurance and non-damage business interruption, read our report here.
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Explain how AI and developing new tools can help automate tasks within a business.
Define parametric insurance and its impact in the perishable goods market.
Identify the common issues in the cargo insurance space and how parametric insurance can solve them.
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 320 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Sep 8, 2024 • 34min
Nicola Turner, Co-founder & COO, Scrub AI: Cleaning up your dirty data (319)
Nicola Turner, Co-founder and COO of Scrub AI, shares her journey from underwriter to entrepreneur, driven by the need for better data tools in insurance. She discusses the costly and time-consuming challenges of manual data cleaning and how her platform automates these tasks. Nicola emphasizes the transformative role of AI and technology in data management, the intricacies of raising funding for a tech start-up, and the importance of work-life balance. Her insights on co-founding and building partnerships are both inspiring and enlightening.

Sep 1, 2024 • 31min
Martin Reith, Chairman: Artificial Labs: Martin’s market musings - some lead and others follow (318)
Next month, Martin Reith will mark 40 years in the London Market. As he approaches this significant milestone, we sat down with him to discuss his journey into the industry, his most notable achievements, his decision to become Chairman of Artificial Labs, and his thoughts on the challenges of modernising the London Market. We also explored his strong advocacy for algorithms and the advice he has for the next generation of industry leaders.
Key talking points:
Starting 40 years ago
Founding Ascot Underwriting and receiving backing from AIG
What has gone well in the Lloyd’s Market and what can be improved?
Is there a good time to invest in technology
Smart Follow - a term often misunderstood
The world of algorithms
Martin’s advice for anyone thinking about entering the Marketplace
The London Market - it works on people
If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.
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Continuing Professional Development
This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme.
By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives:
Explain what Smart Follow is in the context of insurance
Identify ways in which the London Market place can take advantage of innovation
Summarise what an algorithm is and how it can be implemented in insurance
If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 318 page of the InsTech website or email cpd@instech.co to let us know you have listened to this podcast.
To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.