

Refuse Fascism
Refuse Fascism
The Refuse Fascism podcast is an independent and all-volunteer show that produces weekly episodes that expose, analyze, and oppose the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in the United States.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
Episodes
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Sep 17, 2023 • 58min
Stop Cop City
Sam talks with Keyanna Michelle Jones, an organizer with Community Movement Builders. They discuss the ominous and illegitimate RICO indictments "Cop City" opponents face and the fascist assault on the right to protest there. Follow her at @kmichelle_atl and learn more about Community Movement Builders here: https://communitymovementbuilders.org.
Note this episode was recorded on September 12. On Sunday September 17 Stacey Abrams said that she thinks Cop City should be put up for a referendum vote after the mayor put her on the spot, saying that he consulted with her before trying to obstruct the vote.
Mentioned in this episode:
Atlanta Solidarity Fund https://atlsolidarity.org
Block Cop City mass nonviolent direct action Nov 10-13 in Atlanta:
https://blockcopcity.org/
Previous episode about the uprising in Iran: Women, Life, Freedom
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refuse-fascism/episodes/Women--Life--Freedom-e1pbt30/a-a8mth5u
For more background on this topic:
Atlanta Community Press Collective: Georgia Attorney General brings RICO indictments against 61 activists
https://atlpresscollective.com/2023/09/05/georgia-attorney-general-brings-rico-indictments-against-61-activists/
The Nation: How Georgia Indicted a Movement
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cop-city-indictment-atlanta/
Revolution: RICO Indictment Against Cop City Protesters:
An Ominous and Illegitimate Fascist Assault on Legitimate and Righteous Protest
https://revcom.us/en/rico-indictment-against-cop-city-protesters-ominous-and-illegitimate-fascist-assault-legitimate-and
How to help the show? Rate and review wherever you get your podcasts; share with your friends! Get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads, Mastodon and Bluesky.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Sep 10, 2023 • 53min
Fascists In the U.S. Military with Will Carless
Sam talks with Will Carless, national correspondent for USA Today on extremism, about his recent investigation: The military ordered big steps to stop extremism. Two years later, it shows no results. Follow him on Twitter @WillCarless and read his work at USA Today.
Mentioned in the episode:
Georgia Attorney General brings RICO indictments against 61 activists
RICO indictments for 61 people alleged to be part of the Stop Cop City Movement
Proud Boys Didn't Just Crash An Election. They Upended The Next One Too.Trump plans to become a dictator — denial will not save you
Related Episodes:
Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism
The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
Fascist Violence Accelerated
How to help the show? Rate and review wherever you get your podcasts; share with your friends! Get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads, Mastodon and Bluesky.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Sep 3, 2023 • 36min
Teach Truth Not Lies with Dr. Marvin Dunn
Sam talks with Dr. Marvin Dunn, historian and activist with The Miami Center for Racial Justice about their educational tours of Florida covering sites of lynchings and other oppression (prime example: Rosewood) — the knowledge of which is being suppressed by the Desantis fascist offensive against public education. Learn more, get involved and support Teach the Truth projects at https://miamicenterforracialjustice.org/. Follow Dr. Dunn on the site formerly known as Twitter @MarvinDunn4.
Mentioned in this episode:
Educational Intimidation
It's Not Just Florida: Four New 'Don't Say Gay' Laws Passed in 2023
Check out this call to protest!
Oppose the lynch-mob celebrating Jason Aldean concert in Tinley Park, IL (suburb of Chicago) on Saturday Sept 9. Learn more from Revolution Club Chicago (revclub.chi on Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cwni9h_J1WZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Related Episodes:
The GOP Embrace of Fascist "Moms for Liberty"
The Fascist State of Florida and Student Resistance
Foundation 451: Defying DeSantis' Book Bans
The Nazification of American Education
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads, Mastodon and Bluesky.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Aug 27, 2023 • 44min
Centuries-Old Conspiracy Theories That Fuel Fascism Today
Sam talks with Mike Rothschild, author of the forthcoming book Jewish Space Lasers: The Rothschilds and 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories (preorder now!).
From Terry Matalas:
"Like Mike Rothschild’s incredible deconstruction of QAnon in The Storm Is Upon Us, Jewish Space Lasers takes a thoroughly engrossing deep dive into the absurd conspiracy theories surrounding Judaism’s ‘royal family.’ It unpacks that age-old stereotype ‘the Jews control everything’ and brilliantly examines the mysterious dynasty credited for being at the center of it all. It’s a globe-trotting breakdown of antisemitism throughout history to the very chilling moment we are in now. Absorbing, entertaining, and exhaustively researched—a must-read.”
Find out more about the book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733925/jewish-space-lasers-by-mike-rothschild/
Follow Mike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rothschildmd
Plus: commentary on the fascist murders that took place this month from coast to coast, the GOP debate, Trump’s arraignment in the Georgia case & more!
Mentioned in this episode:
Beyond Wishful Thinking and Wrong Conviction by Paul Street
https://paulstreet.substack.com/p/beyond-wishful-thinking-and-wrong
Related episodes:
Mia Bloom: Inside the Mind of Qanon
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5zY6UO57M6CtU6hIOVYACg
Fascist Lies with Federico Finchelstein
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ELkgDtqzhqzbyagTtjKKw
Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2BjVPdGlluT7zeBuHwLsQG
Carol Anderson: White Supremacy & the Second Amendment
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4YFYpNanTHgCwPQS9Bpx6p
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads and Mastodon.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Aug 13, 2023 • 40min
The Court is Wrong; Color-Blindness Serving White Supremacy
Sam talks with attorney and writer Madiba Dennie about the SCOTUS ruling from this June which eliminated race conscious education admissions. Follow her work at madibadennie.com and @AudreLawdAMercy.
Plus more commentary on the brewing crisis escalated by the most recent indictments of Trump.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads and Mastodon.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Aug 7, 2023 • 43min
Fascist "Operation Lone Star" + Trump Indictment
Sam talks with Faisal Al-Juburi from RAICES Texas about the continuing brutal mistreatment of immigrants and asylum seekers in Texas, which has now placed razor wire barriers in the Rio Grande. RAICES first came to national attention during the family separation crisis under the Trump regime but has been providing services and advocacy for immigrants for decades. Follow and support their work at raicestexas.org.
Plus: commentary on the latest batch of Trump indictments which finally point out his role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election.
Read the statement from the RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board: Trump Indicted for Attempting to Overturn Results of 2020 Election: A Time for Truth, Not Delusion; For Struggle, Not Complacency
Mentioned in this episode:
Reading the Indictment of Donald Trump (WNYC)
The Trump Jan. 6 Indictment, Annotated (NYT)
Texas DPS separates families at border in apparent policy shift (Houston Chronicle)
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads and Mastodon.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jul 31, 2023 • 39min
We Must Name It, In Order to Deal with It
Sam talks with Dale Anderson, an organizer with Choose Democracy Now about what’s happening at the ground level in Sarasota, Florida as a case study of the spreading fascism in the US. Find out more about their work at choosedemocracynow.org.
Plus commentary from C. Clark Kissinger excerpted from the recent Q&A discussion with hosts of the show and Refuse Fascism patrons.
Mentioned in this episode:
Trump’s Attacks on the Legal System Are a Preview of How He Plans to Govern by Sasha Abramsky
The Center Cannot Hold by Paul Street
People Aren’t Facing Up to the Horrors a New Trump Term Would Bring by Brynn Tannehill
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads and Mastodon.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jul 16, 2023 • 59min
Voices from Abortion Rights Frontlines in Iowa
Sam talks to women in Iowa, where a new abortion ban was just signed into law, making essentially all abortion services unobtainable.
Lyz Lenz ia a journalist based in Iowa and author of several books including Belabored: A Vindication of the Rights of Pregnant Women. Find her on Twitter https://twitter.com/lyzl or her website https://lyzlenz.com/.
Allison Simpson founded We Won’t Go Back - Dubuque Area and Bridgett Kearney is active with the group (which you can join if you are nearby, details on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2868970886743644/)
*No new episode next week but we are hosting a discussion for Patrons with editors of RefuseFascism.org Coco Das, Paul Street and Sam Goldman on Sunday July 23 at 4pm ET. Details / sign up for $5/month to join at https://www.patreon.com/refusefascism
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads and Mastodon.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jul 9, 2023 • 45min
The GOP Embrace of Fascist "Moms for Liberty"
Sam talks with David Gilbert, Senior Reporter with Vice.com about his recent coverage of the "Moms for Liberty" movement which just held their National Summit in Philly.
Read his recent piece The GOP Is Lining Up to Pay Homage to America's Newest Extremist Group, Moms for Liberty and follow him on Twitter https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/davidgilbertwriter/.
Mentioned in this episode:
Annika Brockschmidt: At Moms for Liberty Summit 'Mama Bears' Declare Spiritual War on the 'Radical Left'
https://religiondispatches.org/at-moms-for-liberty-summit-mama-bears-declare-spiritual-war-on-the-radical-left/
Anthea Butler: Nothing about Moms for Liberty is new. That’s why it's effective.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/moms-for-liberty-republican-politics-rcna92395
Nicole Hemmer: What history reveals about the biggest new power player in US politics
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/07/opinions/moms-for-liberty-conservative-women-history-hemmer
Dr. Gillian Frank: Moms Can Do Anything...Even Shape An Election
https://wearethemeteor.com/moms-for-liberty-history-white-supremacy/
ICYMI Related episode: Moms for "Liberty" aka Moms for Fascism
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refuse-fascism/id1522364165?i=1000618282540
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including Threads and Mastodon.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jul 2, 2023 • 55min
SCOTUS Openly Advances Fascism
Sam talks with Paul Street about the recent rulings from the Supreme Court including overturning affirmative action, legalizing discrimination against LGBTQ (and possibly other?) people, Moore v Harper (the "independent state legislature theory" case) and more. Follow Paul on Substack: https://substack.com/@paulstreet
Also listen to episode 160: SCOTUS, The Shadow Docket, & The Fascist Assault on the Environment https://open.spotify.com/episode/1nddQh2o8s3Cpka64Dmm8s
Mentioned in this episode:
Homophobic businesses in the US have a powerful ally: the US supreme court by Moira Donegan
https://www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2023/jun/30/homophobic-businesses-ally-us-supreme-court
The GOP Is Lining Up to Pay Homage to America's Newest Extremist Group, Moms for Liberty by David Gilbert
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3a3w/moms-for-liberty-summit-ron-desantis-trump
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Record a voice message for the show here. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· paypal.me/refusefascism
· donate.refusefascism.org
· patreon.com/refusefascism
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown