

Refuse Fascism
Refuse Fascism
The Refuse Fascism podcast is an independent and all-volunteer show that produces weekly episodes that expose, analyze, and oppose the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in the United States.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
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Jul 4, 2022 • 40min
Overturning Roe: A Watershed Moment for U.S. Fascism
Sam and Coco Das discuss Coco's new article for The Independent: Roe has been overturned and women’s bodies are no longer their own in America. Here’s what to do now. Follow Coco at @Coco_Das.
Over the past couple weeks SCOTUS has issued a series of rulings that flag that they are no longer concerned with the appearance of legitimacy: rights no longer need to be read to people arrested by the police, states cannot issue laws restricting who can conceal guns, and the EPA cannot prevent power plants from filling the air with pollution. They also agreed to hear a case that would enable state legislatures to conduct elections according to whatever procedures they set... and of course overturned the constitutional right to abortion, setting in motion the chaos we're seeing across the country as clinics shut down and patients, including a 10 year old rape victim from Ohio, have had to travel great distances to obtain access to abortion.
Where do we go from here? Check out riseup4abortionrights.org which is calling for continued mobilization in the street to demand the full reinstatement of the right to legal abortion at a national level. Read the response to unprincipled and divisive attacks. Read Coco's speech from the protest in Austin, Texas here: We can turn this around, not as the people we are now but as the people we become through this struggle.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jun 26, 2022 • 54min
SCOTUS, The Big Lie, Fascism: All Illegitimate
On our first post-Roe episode, we share some of the voices from the streets over the last couple days outside the Supreme Court demanding the federal government restore the fundamental right to abortion across the country NOW, including Sunsara Taylor (@sunsarataylor), Paxton Smith (@paxtonsmith) and youth organizers.
Then, writer and pundit Wajahat Ali talks to Sam about the January 6 hearings which have unearthed in great detail (though not exhaustive, as Ginni Thomas's key role continues to be obscured) the Trump regime's attempted coup plot. Read his latest piece for The Daily Beast: No, Our Institutions Didn’t Hold After Jan. 6—Just Look at the GOP and follow him on Twitter at @WajahatAli.
How are we accepting a ruling that reverses a fundamental right for more than half the population, issued by an illegitimate court full of fascists appointed by a (perhaps soon-to-be-indicted) criminal?
Answer: we're not. Check out the latest at RiseUp4AbortionRights.org.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jun 19, 2022 • 58min
The Looming Abortion Rights Disaster & Even Worse To Come From The Supreme Court
Sam Goldman takes a break from protesting outside the Supreme Court to interview writer Jill Filipovic about the looming abortion rights disaster. Follow Jill’s work at jill.substack.com and follow her on Twitter at @JillFilipovic.
Then, Sunsara Taylor interviews lawyer and host of the Amicus podcast Dahlia Lithwick about the legal rationale behind overturning the right to abortion and the many other implications to individual freedom in the US (this interview originally appeared on The Revolution Nothing Less show).
Tuesday, June 21 at 9am, RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for people to Come to the Supreme Court in DC and Stay; STOP the Supreme Court from Taking Away Abortion Rights! Find out more and get involved at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jun 12, 2022 • 45min
Federico Finchelstein: "White Replacement Theory" & Fascism
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Federico Finchelstein on the recent Op Ed he wrote with Dr. Jason Stanley in the LA Times: White replacement theory is fascism’s new name. Follow @FinchelsteinF on Twitter and check out his newest book, Fascist Mythologies: The History and Politics of Unreason in Borges, Freud, and Schmitt.
Recommended reading:
The first January 6 hearing served up surprising revelations — that all point to Trump (Ben Jacobs in Vox)
Jan. 6 Committee Details Proud Boys, Oath Keepers Involvement in Capitol Insurrection (SPLC)
Elegy for a lost America: Will the Jan. 6 committee really change anything? (Jeff Sharlet in Salon)
Buffalo: A Brutal Killer… A Heartless White-Supremacist System (Revcom.us)
Let Us Prey (Rafia Zakaria in The Baffler)
This coming week, RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for people to Come to the Supreme Court in DC and Stay; STOP the Supreme Court from Taking Away Abortion Rights! Find out more and get involved at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

May 29, 2022 • 1h 1min
Confronting & Rejecting a Culture of Fascist Violence
In the aftermath of the horrific massacre of schoolchildren in Uvalde, Texas, which was close on the heels of a white supremacist killing spree in Buffalo, NY, we’re re-sharing the extremely relevant interview Sam Goldman did with Dr. Carol Anderson in November 2021. Dr. Anderson is the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy, and her latest book The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America which was the focus of this conversation. Follow Dr. Anderson at professorcarolanderson.org and @ProfCAnderson.
Then, we share a few clips from the protests this past week demanding abortion rights. Featured voices include Mark Ruffalo, Kayli Carter, Sunsara Taylor and some of the students who walked out of school to shut down the Brooklyn Bridge in NYC. Find out more about next steps to mobilize for abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

May 22, 2022 • 31min
Acting Now to Defend Roe + Abortion Rights
Coco Das @Coco_Das and Sam Goldman @SamBGoldman have been busy rallying people in the streets with RiseUp4AbortionRights.org over the past couple weeks - we share some of those speeches today. Join in nationwide protests this Thursday May 26 to raise your voice and raise hell as SCOTUS is on the verge of overturning Roe and allowing many abortion bans to go through. Find or organize a protest here.
Recommended reading:
CPAC Hungary: Global right doubles down on "replacement" theory: "This is what tyrants do"
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

May 16, 2022 • 33min
Thousands Rise Up to Say: Overturn Roe? Hell No!
More than 400 cities on Saturday May 14 saw protests demanding the Supreme Court not overturn Roe. We share some of the voices from a protest in NYC including Merle Hoffman, Founder/CEO Choices Women's Medical Center and an initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org, Rosita Romero, Executive Director, Dominican Women's Development Center, Elizabeth Holtzman, former U.S. Representative and District Attorney of Brooklyn, and Sunsara Taylor, Co-Host of the RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show on Youtube & a key initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org.
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org:
Ok, so we protested May 14 and then stay home right? WRONG! STAY IN THE STREETS!!!!!
Thursday May 19 WALK OUT
Wear & creatively display Green
Thursday May 26 SHUT IT DOWN!
Refuse Fascism is more than just a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

May 8, 2022 • 38min
Susana Chiarotti: Overturning Roe, A Brutal Lesson for Feminists on Resistance
A draft version of the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe on the most retrograde basis has been leaked, authored by Samuel Alito. Coco Das (@Coco_Das) interviews Susana Chiarotti, Latin American Liaison for the Sisterhood is Global Institute about the global implications of this ruling and the immediate challenge facing the abortion rights movement in the US. Read her recent article for the Miami Herald: While Roe v. Wade is under attack in the U.S., Latin American women are winning abortion rights. Then, we share some of the voices from the street protests and student walkouts that happened this week as emergency responses to the pending SCOTUS decision.
Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion in the US May 8 - 14 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Refuse Fascism is more than just a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

May 1, 2022 • 30min
Marcela García: Lessons from the Green Wave Abortion Rights Victories in Latin America
Coco Das interviews Boston Globe columnist Marcela García about her recent piece about the “Green Wave” movements in Latin America that have decriminalized abortion in Argentina, Colombia and Mexico. Read Latin America moves forward in legalizing abortion as the US rolls back access. What gives? Follow Marcela on Twitter at @marcela_elisa.
Listen to the solidarity statement from Ana Cristina Gonzalez Vélez from the movement in Colombia to Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion in the US May 8 - 14 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Note: mentioned in this episode are the anti-abortion bans which are referred to as "heartbeat bills" however there is no beating heart in an embryo at 6 weeks, only pulsating embryonic cardiac cells.
Refuse Fascism is more than just a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Apr 25, 2022 • 34min
January 6th Was a Dress Rehearsal
We share voices from activists with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights who traveled to Kentucky, the scene of the latest state-level showdown against abortion rights.
Then: Trump is shoring up support in local legislatures in preparation for his 2024 run for the presidency while revelations of the continuing domination of the GOP continue (including Kevin McCarthy’s lies and craven subservience to Trump in the face of recordings of himself acknowledging Trump’s role in leading the coup attempt). We share some highlights from interviews over the past year with guests discussing the January 6th coup attempt and implications for the future. Excerpted interviews with Elie Honig, Dr. Jo-Marie Burt, Dr. Anthony DiMaggio, Dahlia Lithwick, Walter Masterson, and Dr. Samuel Perry.
Also mentioned in this episode: Student Walkouts Against "Don't Say Gay" Law + Stopping Business as Usual
Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Refuse Fascism is more than just a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
· Venmo: @RefuseFascism
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown