
Refuse Fascism
The Refuse Fascism podcast is an independent and all-volunteer show that produces weekly episodes that expose, analyze, and oppose the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in the United States.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
Latest episodes

Jan 29, 2023 • 47min
The Insurrectionist House of Representatives
Back by popular demand! Sam talks with Dr. Thomas Zimmer, historian at Georgetown University and co-host of the podcast Is This Democracy? Follow him on Twitter at @tzimmer_history and subscribe to his substack at thomaszimmer.substack.com where you can read his latest commentary: "On the Murder of Tyre Nichols." They discuss just a handful of the latest attempts to shore up traditional hierarchies through aggressive fascist measures in a variety of arenas including the House of Representatives and state legislatures around the country, as well as how to understand the Republican Party today.
Mentioned in the show:
'You want to ban the books? I’m giving them away.' Activists protest Florida book-ban law
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jan 22, 2023 • 58min
On the 50th Anniversary of Roe
Coco Das reads the statement from Rise Up for Abortion Rights on the 50th anniversary of Roe. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and connect with Rise Up for Abortion Rights on all platforms at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Then, Sam interviews Julie F. Kay, human rights lawyer for gender equality & religious freedom and architect of the Irish abortion lawsuit ABC v. Ireland, co-author with Kathryn Kolbert of Controlling Women: What We Must Do Now to Save Reproductive Freedom. Follow her on Twitter @Msjuliekay and visit her website www.juliefkay.com.
Also! check out Walter Masterson trolling anti-abortion protesters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oG7s2idrgQ
Links to reports/articles mentioned in the show:
Jessica Valenti: Abortion, Every Day
The Gender Equity Project Institute The State of Reproductive Health in The United States
Vice News: I Helped an 11-Year-Old Rape Victim and Hundreds of Other People Get Abortions After Roe
Sunsara Taylor: Forced Motherhood Is Female Enslavement; Make Roe's Reversal a Rallying Cry for a Real Revolution!
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Jan 8, 2023 • 56min
The Continuing January 6 Coup
Sam Goldman, Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio discuss the continuing impact of the Trump coup attempt that seemed to culminate with the physical assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The House special committee's report was released in the final days of 2022 with the recommendation that the now Republican-controlled Congress bar Trump from ever holding office again, as well as be criminally prosecuted. Neither outcome is likely as the events of the first week back in session show the GOP is still completely in thrall to the cult of Trump, whether via supposed "moderates" like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Kevin McCarthy or "extremists" like Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert.
Anthony DiMaggio is an Associate Professor of political science at Lehigh University and author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Read his writings at Counterpunch and Salon. Paul Street is on editorial board of RefuseFascism.org and the author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America. Read his latest writings on Substack including "Keep Down the Fascism Detectors: Elise Stefanik, the New York Times, and the Appeasement by Deletion of Fascism."
Recommended reading:
The shutdown caucus really wins: The House power grab was always bigger than Kevin McCarthy
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Dec 31, 2022 • 1h 11min
2022: The Year in Review
We take a look back at 2022 with the help of previous guests including:
Sussan Tahmasebi
Jasmin Ramsey
Marcela García
Susana Chiarotti
Sunsara Taylor
Andrew Seidel
Coco Das
Bradley Onishi
Samuel Perry
Andrew Seidel
Thomas Zimmer
Wajahat Ali
Paul Street
Rachael Wachstein
Danielle Moodie
Henry Giroux
Follow @RefuseFascism on all the socials now including mastodon.world/@refusefascism.
Thank you to everyone who is donating during giving season! Don't forget to include your mailing address if you give more than $35 so we can mail you a warm winter Refuse Fascism beanie (ends December 31st!).
Note: Venmo and Cashapp are currently not working, please use another method for the time being. Note: you can make a tax-deductible donation towards our educational work to our fiscal sponsor Alliance for Global Justice (AFGJ) by clicking here. Or send a check or money order to: RefuseFascism.org 2 East 28th Street #321 New York NY 10016-7402 If you wish a tax deduction, write the check to RefuseFascism.org/AFGJ
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Dec 26, 2022 • 57min
Drag Vs. Fascism
Sam Goldman talks to Gwen Frisbie-Fulton, organizer and writer, about the recent attack on power stations in Moore County, North Carolina, and how the attacks on drag story hours are being used by the larger fascist movement. Read Was Moore County attack another antI-LGTBQ act? in the Greensboro News & Record and follow Gwen at @gwen_fulton. Then, we talk to drag performers about the joys and benefits of drag story hours, not just for the LGBTQ community but for everyone who wants to bring a little more empathy, creativity and fun into the world.
Learn more about youth activist and performer Desmond Napoles at desmondisamazing.com and learn more about drag story hours and get involved with Paradise's group, Drag Story Hour at dshnyc.org.
Thank you to everyone who is donating during giving season! Don't forget to include your mailing address if you give more than $35 so we can mail you a warm winter Refuse Fascism beanie.
Note: Venmo and Cashapp are currently not working, please use another method for the time being! Note: you can make a tax-deductible donation towards our educational work to our fiscal sponsor Alliance for Global Justice (AFGJ) by clicking here.
Or send a check or money order to:
RefuseFascism.org
2 East 28th Street #321
New York NY 10016-7402
If you wish a tax deduction, write the check to RefuseFascism.org/AFGJ
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Dec 18, 2022 • 52min
Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism
Sam interviews Andy Campbell, author of the new book We Are Proud Boys: How a Right-Wing Street Gang Ushered in a New Era of American Extremism. Follow Andy on Twitter at @AndyBCampbell.
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
Thank you to everyone who is donating during giving season! Don't forget to include your mailing address if you give more than $35 so we can mail you a warm winter Refuse Fascism beanie.
Note: Venmo and Cashapp are currently not working, please use another method for the time being!
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Dec 12, 2022 • 1h 4min
The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Phillip Gorski, professor of sociology at Yale, about the contours of the White Christian Nationalist movement. His latest book is The Flag and the Cross written with Dr. Samuel Perry. Follow Dr. Gorski on Twitter at @GorskiPhilip.
Then, Sam talks to Micah Lee, Director of Information Security at The Intercept, about the Nazification of Twitter under Elon Musk. You can follow Micah on Twitter @MicahfLee but he's posting more often on Mastodon these days: https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee and his website is micahflee.com.
Also mentioned on this episode:
The US supreme court is poised to strike another blow against gay rights by Moira Donegan
Why is Texas banning abortions? Because this state is run by Christian fundamentalist fascist lunatics by Coco Das
The Court Case That Could Legalize the Next Coup by Elie Mystal
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter (@RefuseFascism) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
Thank you to everyone who is donating during giving season! Don't forget to include your mailing address if you give more than $35 so we can mail you a warm winter Refuse Fascism beanie.
Note: Venmo and Cashapp are currently not working, please use another method for the time being!
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Dec 5, 2022 • 47min
Christian Dominionism and Fascist Momentum
Sam talks to Dr. Sarah Riccardi-Swartz, assistant professor of religion and anthropology at Northeastern University about Christian Dominionism, rising antisemitism and the fascist movement's continued momentum. Follow her on Twitter at @riccardiswartz and visit her site at riccardiswartz.com
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
Thank you to everyone who has given in recent days! All donors at the $35 or above will get a warm Refuse Fascism beanie + one for a good friend (or you can gift both!). Be sure to include your mailing address when donating so we can ship them to you in time for holiday giving.
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Nov 20, 2022 • 50min
The Aftermath of the Midterms
Sam Goldman chats with fellow RefuseFascism.org co-editors Coco Das and Paul Street about the aftermath of the 2022 midterms, Donald Trump declaring his 2024 candidacy and associated happenings this past week. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and subscribe to Paul on Substack at paulstreet.substack.com. Read Paul's book This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America .
Thursday, Dec. 1 From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org: Manifest in green and protest nationwide at courthouses around the country on Thursday December 1, the one-year anniversary of when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case that overturned abortion rights. Through speeches, dramatic bloody die-ins, and in other ways, the protests should make clear that we cannot rely on the courts and have to rely on ourselves to rise up to win legal abortion on demand and without apology everywhere. Find or host a protest here: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/nov-25-dec-1/
Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism
It's getting cold now, and you may be thinking about holiday giving. Refuse Fascism beanies are extra warm and a great way to proudly declare where you stand this winter. Volunteers are standing by to ship one or five or 20 to you, so order here!
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Nov 13, 2022 • 56min
Bradley Onishi: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next
Sam Goldman interviews Bradley Onishi about his new book (available January 2023) Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next
Brad Onishi is a former insider in the Christian nationalist movement who spent seven years as a minister in Southern California. Listen to his podcast Straight White American Jesus, follow him on Twitter at @BradleyOnishi and sign up for updates at swaj.substack.com.
Thursday, Dec. 1
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org: Manifest in green and protest nationwide at courthouses around the country on Thursday December 1, the one-year anniversary of when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case that overturned abortion rights. Through speeches, dramatic bloody die-ins, and in other ways, the protests should make clear that we cannot rely on the courts and have to rely on ourselves to rise up to win legal abortion on demand and without apology everywhere. Find or host a protest here: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/nov-25-dec-1/
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Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown