

Intelligent Design the Future
Discovery Institute
The ID The Future (IDTF) podcast carries on Discovery Institute's mission of exploring the issues central to evolution and intelligent design. IDTF is a short podcast providing you with the most current news and views on evolution and ID. IDTF delivers brief interviews with key scientists and scholars developing the theory of ID, as well as insightful commentary from Discovery Institute senior fellows and staff on the scientific, educational and legal aspects of the debate. Episode notes and archives available at idthefuture.com.
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May 7, 2025 • 43min
More Than a Thumb: Integrated Design in the Giant Panda
Wolf-Eckehard Lönnig, a retired geneticist and a pioneer in intelligent design, delves into the fascinating anatomy of the giant panda. He discusses the extraordinary adaptation of the panda’s thumb, which aids in grasping bamboo and challenges traditional evolutionary frameworks. Lönnig critiques neo-Darwinism, emphasizing the genetic adaptations unique to pandas, and presents arguments advocating for intelligent design as a more plausible explanation for their distinct features.

May 5, 2025 • 34min
Evolved or Engineered? A Geneticist Evaluates the Panda’s Thumb
Retired geneticist Dr. Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig, known for his critiques of Darwinian theory, delves into the fascinating debate surrounding the giant panda's thumb. He challenges the notion of evolutionary imperfections, arguing instead for intelligent design. The discussion highlights the unique anatomical features of the panda’s paw and questions natural selection’s role in its development. Lönnig also explores the contradictions within evolutionary theory, using the panda's dexterity as a compelling case for engineered elegance in biology.

May 2, 2025 • 18min
How Darwinism Has Corroded Western Culture
In this episode, John West, a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute and author of "Darwin Day in America," explores the corrosive effects of Darwinism on Western culture. He discusses how Darwinian concepts have led to moral relativism, impacting marriage and sexuality. West critiques its implications on spirituality and religious belief, emphasizing the questioning of Darwinism within the scientific community. However, he ends on a hopeful note, highlighting emerging evidence of intelligent design and the potential for a renewed appreciation of purpose in science.

Apr 30, 2025 • 21min
David Klinghoffer Reads From His New Book Plato’s Revenge
On this ID The Future, science writer David Klinghoffer reads from his new book Plato’s Revenge: The New Science of the Immaterial Genome, now available from Discovery Institute Press. This is a compact book, but it’s the story of a very big idea, and one that has the potential to usher in the next great revolution in biology.
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Apr 28, 2025 • 25min
Plato’s Revenge: An Interview with David Klinghoffer
You're likely familiar with the genetic revolution — the discovery that physical structures in the cell, including DNA and RNA, shape every organism. But we are now overdue for another and more profound revolution in science, one you've likely heard very little about. Recent findings reveal that genetic and even epigenetic sources alone cannot account for the rich dynamism of life — not even close. Some other informational source is required. On this ID The Future, science writer and Discovery Institute Senior Fellow David Klinghoffer speaks with host Andrew McDiarmid about his new book Plato's Revenge: The New Science of the Immaterial Genome. It's a little book about a very big idea. It also tells the story of the scientist, Dr. Richard Sternberg, who has spent the last two decades bringing together cutting-edge molecular biology, higher mathematics, and commonsense reasoning to flesh out this potentially revolutionary new idea.
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Apr 25, 2025 • 20min
John West on Darwin’s Culturally Corrosive Idea
On this ID the Future from the vault, catch the first half of a public talk by political scientist John West on how Darwinism has poisoned Western culture. In the lecture, delivered at the Dallas Conference on Science & Faith, West explores how Darwin’s purely materialistic theory of evolution has drained meaning from nature, undercut the idea of inherent human dignity, and fueled the rise of scientific racism in the twentieth century. West is author of Darwin Day in America: How Our Politics and Culture Have Been Dehumanized in the Name of Science.
This is Part 1 of a two-part series. Look for Part 2 in a separate episode.
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Apr 23, 2025 • 36min
Larry Sanger on Wikipedia, AI, and Preserving Human Knowledge
Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia and president of the Knowledge Standards Foundation, shares his insights on the decentralization of knowledge and the essential role of humans in the age of AI. He critiques large language models and underscores the enduring need for human judgment in understanding complex subjects. Sanger also discusses the challenges Wikipedia faces in representing controversial topics fairly and highlights the importance of safeguarding human knowledge against crises, advocating for resilient digital networks.

Apr 21, 2025 • 41min
Skeptic to Believer: Wikipedia Co-Founder Larry Sanger’s Intellectual Journey
On this ID The Future, Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger joins hosts Andrew McDiarmid and Nathan Jacobson to delve into his personal evolution from longtime skeptical philosopher to belief in God. After falling out of faith in his teens, Sanger became a committed skeptic and agnostic, adhering to the principle of methodological skepticism for decades as he evaluated traditional arguments for the existence of God and found them wanting. And while Sanger was unconvinced by the claims of "new atheists" like Richard Dawkins and Daniel Dennett, he found himself drawn to the arguments of intelligent design scientists like Stephen Meyer, Michael Behe, and William Dembski. In this first half of a conversation, Sanger recounts his fascinating intellectual journey while unpacking the intelligent design arguments he found most convincing along his journey. This is Part 1 of a two-part interview. Look for Part 2 in a separate episode.
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Apr 18, 2025 • 34min
Louis Pasteur: A Man of Science and Faith
On this episode of ID the Future out of the archive, biologist Ann Gauger walks listeners through the triumphs, flaws, and tragedies of Louis Pasteur, the French scientist whose scientific breakthroughs have saved millions of lives, and whose work on microbes sounded the death knell of the idea of spontaneous generation. Dr. Gauger also discusses his pioneering and life-saving work on vaccines, the Christian faith that saw him through the death of his three of his children, and more.
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Apr 16, 2025 • 21min
Why the “Universe From Nothing” Model Points to Intelligent Design
Did our universe come from nothing, as some physicists have proposed? On this ID The Future, host Andrew McDiarmid critiques the audacious claim that our universe popped into existence out of nothing. What is nothing? What isn’t nothing? And how does the universe from nothing claim actually imply intelligent design? McDiarmid shares audio from the Science Uprising video series, as well a portion of an interview with Dr. Stephen Meyer, to help answer these questions.
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