New Economics Podcast
New Economics Foundation
Award-winning podcast about the economic and political forces shaping our world, with Ayeisha Thomas-Smith and guests. Brought to you by the New Economics Foundation – the independent think tank and charity campaigning for a fairer, sustainable economy.
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Feb 15, 2021 • 39min
Vaccine Nationalism
By the middle of January, 49 wealthy countries had administered 39 million doses of the Covid vaccine. But the world’s poorest countries had only done 25 jabs, all of them in just one country: Guinea. Not 25 million, not 25,000 - just 25.
Why can’t some countries get hold of the vaccine? Why are rich countries buying more doses than they need? And are we seeing the rise of ‘vaccine nationalism’?
In this episode, Ayeisha is joined by Miriam Brett, director of research and advocacy at Common Wealth and Tahir Amin, co-executive director of Initiative for Medicines, Access & Knowledge.
-For more, read Common Wealth's report on what's wrong with our IP system: https://www.common-wealth.co.uk/interactive-digital-projects/ip-infogram
-And Tahir's piece for Foreign Affairs is available here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2021-01-29/folly-hoarding-knowledge-covid-19-age
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Music by Poddington Bear under Creative Commons license.
Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
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Feb 5, 2021 • 40min
Is outsourcing out of control?
Meagre food packages for kids on free school meals. A £22bn track and trace system that isn’t fit for purpose. And people asked to travel hundreds of miles for a Covid test. What do all of these things have in common? They’ve all been outsourced to the private sector.
But why are these vital services being run by the private sector? Are the allegations of cronyism true? And who’s making money out of all this?
Ayeisha is joined by New Statesman’s Britain editor, Anoosh Chakelian and David Hall, founder of the Public Services International Research Unit at the University of Greenwich.
For more on this area, you can listen to a previous episode we did with Cat Hobbs, director of We Own It campaign, Hilary Wainwright, co-editor of Red Pepper magazine and Sahil Dutta from Goldsmiths University on Public Ownership: https://soundcloud.com/weeklyeconomicspodcast/public-ownership-20
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
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Jan 29, 2021 • 40min
Exposing the truth about modern slavery
From Sports Direct warehouses to nail bars, awareness-raising campaigns warn that modern slavery is happening all around us. Over Christmas, fashion brand Boohoo cut ties with 64 garment suppliers in Leicester after it came out that factories were paying their workers as little as £3.50 an hour. And this month the foreign secretary said he would clamp down on companies who used forced labour in their supply chains.
But how useful is the concept of ‘modern slavery’? What kinds of exploitation does it disguise? And what does it say about how we’ve designed our economy?
For the first episode of a new series of the Weekly Economics Podcast, Ayeisha is joined by Emily Kenway, author of new book The Truth About Modern Slavery.
Grab a copy of Emily's book, out now with Pluto Books: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341224/the-truth-about-modern-slavery/
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
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The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Dec 1, 2020 • 53min
Finding hope during and after the pandemic
Joe Biden has defeated Donald Trump to win the US election. Test results from around the world suggest that a coronavirus vaccine is on the horizon. Over the past month there have been more bright spots than usual in a difficult, painful year. At the same time, with the number of coronavirus deaths at their highest since May, many parts of the country still subject to severe restrictions and unemployment skyrocketing, many of us are hesitant to declare that the worst days are behind us.
So, how has this year affected our mental health? How can progressives stay well enough to fight for change? And have we forgotten how to feel hopeful?
Ayeisha is joined by researcher and author, Christine Berry and Farzana Khan, executive director and co-founder of Healing Justice London.
If you have been affected by anything discussed in this episode, you can contact the Samaritans for free at 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org/
Further reading/watching from this episode:
-The Impact of COVID 19 on Disabled Women from Sisters of Frida: http://www.sisofrida.org/the-impact-of-covid-19-on-disabled-women-from-sisters-of-frida/
-Healing Justice London: https://healingjusticeldn.org/
-NEON Movement Building Webinar on the History of Mutual Aid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDZzURoU9Z8&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=NEON
-Rebecca Solnit, Hope in the Dark: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/hope-in-the-dark-untold-histories-wild-possibilities/9781782119074
-Joanna Macy, Active Hope https://uk.bookshop.org/books/active-hope-how-to-face-the-mess-we-re-in-without-going-crazy/9781577319726
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear and Chris Zabriskie under Creative Commons license.
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The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Nov 16, 2020 • 38min
Should we work less after the pandemic?
Setting up a desk area in the kitchen, Zoom call-induced headaches, or getting furloughed and paid to not do any work - this year has shaken up the world of work like never before. The pandemic has made us reimagine how work fits into our economy and our lives.
So, with 79% of business leaders and nearly two-thirds of the public open to bringing in a shorter working week in light of the pandemic, should we be thinking more about working less? Could a shorter working week help us recover from coronavirus?
Ayeisha Thomas-Smith is joined by Alfie Stirling, NEF Director of Research and Chief Economist, and Anna Coote, Principal Fellow at NEF to discuss their new book with Aidan Harper, The Case for a Four-Day Week.
The book will be out on the 27th November, go to the Polity website to grab a copy https://politybooks.com/bookdetail/?isbn=9781509539642
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear and Blue Dot Sessions under Creative Commons license.
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The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Nov 6, 2020 • 43min
Should we shake up taxes to recover from the pandemic?
Chancellor Rishi Sunak has said that Britain faces new tax rises in the wake of the pandemic. But over the summer Labour’s shadow chancellor Anneliese Dodds warned against increasing taxes during an economic crisis. Meanwhile, new research has found that increasing numbers of Tory voters are in favour of higher taxes.
So, what do Labour and the Conservatives think about tax rises? Should we be changing the tax system during a recession? And if taxes do rise, who should be paying the most?
Ayeisha is joined by Robert Palmer, executive director of Tax Justice UK and Anoosh Chakelian, Britain editor at the New Statesman.
-Find out more on Tax Justice UK's work on tax and public opinion here:
https://www.taxjustice.uk/tax-and-public-opinion.html
-Read the report Living on Different Incomes in London: Can public consensus identify a 'riches line'? https://www.trustforlondon.org.uk/publications/can-public-consensus-identify-a-riches-line/
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear and Ketsa under Creative Commons license.
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The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Oct 23, 2020 • 46min
The US election narrative war
The US presidential election is less than a fortnight away - and Donald Trump and Joe Biden are pulling out all the stops to get the votes. But after a chaotic debate forced moderators to cut the candidates’ mics to stop them interrupting each other, it’s hard to get a grip on what messages they’re trying to get across.
How have the different campaigns been selling themselves? Will Biden’s attacks on Trump be a winning strategy? And how should progressives be pushing for change?
Ayeisha is joined by communications expert and principle at ASO Communications, Anat Shenker-Osario.
Resources available at https://asocommunications.com/
and https://raceclassnarrativeaction.com/
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear and Chris Zabriskie under Creative Commons license.
Enjoying the show? Tweet us your comments and questions @NEF!
The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Oct 16, 2020 • 35min
What's going on with Brexit?
Brexit - remember it? Way back in the distant past of 2019 it felt like it was all the newspapers could talk about. It might feel like it’s done and dusted, but the process is still rumbling on.
We’ve got an Internal Market Bill that the government itself admits will break international law. MPs just voted through a Bill refusing to guarantee food and farming standards after we leave the EU. And apparently we’re moving the UK border to Kent.
So, what exactly is going on? What will happen when the transition period ends on New Years Eve? And what does it all mean for the UK economy?
Ayeisha is joined Marley Morris, Associate Director for Immigration, Trade and EU relations at the Institute for Public Policy Research.
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear and Christian Bjoerklund under Creative Commons license.
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The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Oct 9, 2020 • 35min
Building a caring economy
“We want to build back greener as we recover from Covid-19” - that was the message this week at the Prime Minister’s Conservative Party Conference speech. But in all the talk of wind turbines and technology, the place of care in our economic recovery didn’t really get a look in.
Why is care often so overlooked when we think about the economy? And how would our lives change if we put care at the centre of our economic decisions?
Ayeisha is joined by Jo Littler, Professor of Social Analysis and Cultural Politics at City University of London, Marion Sharples, Project Manager and Researcher at the Women’s Budget Group and NEF Senior Economist, Sarah Arnold.
The Care Manifesto: The Politics of Interdependence is available on the Verso website https://www.versobooks.com/books/3706-care-manifesto
Read the final report of the Commission on a Gender-Equal Economy https://wbg.org.uk/commission/
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear and Blue Dot Sessions under Creative Commons license.
Enjoying the show? Tweet us your comments and questions @NEF!
The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org

Oct 6, 2020 • 34min
Is competition killing us?
Our track-and-trace system will be “world-beating”. The development of the Oxford Covid-19 vaccine is “months ahead” of its competitors around the world.
This is how politicians and the media have been talking about our lines of defence against the coronavirus pandemic. But when facing up to a global problem that connects us all, why is competition the only language we have to talk about it?
How has competition come to define our economy and society? What do we miss out on when we focus on competition? And is there a way out?
Ayeisha is joined by Michelle Meagher, author of new book, Competition is Killing Us and Grace Blakeley, staff writer at Tribune and author of upcoming book, The Corona Crash: How the Pandemic will Change Capitalism.
Grab a copy of Michelle's book https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/315/315772/competition-is-killing-us/9780241423011.html
Grace's book is out on the 27th October https://www.versobooks.com/books/3723-the-corona-crash
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Researched by Margaret Welsh. Produced by Becky Malone.
Music by Poddington Bear under Creative Commons license.
Enjoying the show? Tweet us your comments and questions @NEF!
The Weekly Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org


