

Bad On Paper
Becca Freeman & Olivia Muenter
Join Becca Freeman and Olivia Muenter every Wednesday for a dose of books and banter, along with interviews with women who inspire us.
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Dec 18, 2019 • 1h 22min
Grace Interviews Becca! Decorating Her Apartment, The Term “Influencer”, and Freelance Life
For this month’s “Just Us” episodes, Becca had the idea to interview each other! This week Grace interviews Becca. We crowdsourced the questions from you and had so much fun interviewing each other. You already know Becca, but how well do you really know her? Today all of your questions are answered. Does Becca have a secret boyfriend? Becca tells us her goals for the podcast (and her instagram too!), what it’s like gaining an online following, thoughts on the word influencer and why she doesn’t consider herself one. Becca also talks about shifting to freelance, getting clients, managing people, and knowing when it is time to leave a job. We also get the scoop on using an interior decorator, the process, pros and cons, and of course a glimpse into her friendship with Grace! Girls Weekend Ideas: The Breakers in Palm Beach More Mentions: Digit App (for Budgeting) We are Knitters Christmas Movies Mentioned: The Christmas Contract (Lifetime movie, basically a One Tree Hill Reunion) A Christmas Inheritance (Netflix) Obsessions: iPhone 11 Nadaam cashmere tracksuit The Laundress Wool & Cashmere Shampoo Instagram Obsessions: @stuffmomposts @thedunmore @indiahicksstyle @jordansyatt (for practical diet inspiration) @emmabaryl (Becca’s Decorator) Books Mentioned: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert (Becca’s most inspiring book) Radical Candor by Kim Scott (Becca’s fav book for managing people) The Honey Don’t List by Christina Lauren A Good Girl’s Guide to Murder by Holly Jackson (Out in Feb) Anna K by Jenny Lee One of Us is Next by Karen McManus (author of One of Us is Lying) Six of Crows By Leigh Bardugo The Authenticity Project by Claire Pooley (out Feb 5) December Book Club Pick: One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors:
Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. LOLA Take 30% off your $5 trial set - mylola.com and enter code BOP30 at checkout. Care/of: 50% your first order at takecareof.com with offer code BOP50 at checkout. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Dec 11, 2019 • 1h 53min
Kate Kennedy of Be There in Five on podcasting, influencer culture, and why her husband is blocked on Instagram.
We’re so excited to have our friend Kate Kennedy join us today! You probably know her from her podcast, Be There in Five… OR her book Twinkle, Twinkle Social Media Star, her hilarious pop culture commentary on Instagram, or her viral doormat business. She talks about how she started her business, how she came up with the idea for the podcast, and her career journey. We talk about press trips, Instagram triggers, the influencers we admire most, and (of course) Taylor Swift, and why Kate is such a Stan. Kate makes her 2020 predictions for pop culture and influencer trends and gives great advice on following your dreams and how to inoffensively block your significant other and family on Instagram. More Kate! @bethereinfive Be There In Five Podcast Grace’s Episode of Under the Influencer on Be There in Five. Products Mentioned: Revlon Lipstick in Black Cherry Crest White Strips Obsessions: Jackson Vaughn, the JV Christmas candle Knitting Kits from We are Knitters Wander Beauty the Dualist concealer Instagram Obsessions: Tiktok #dogsoftiktok @ambitiouskitchen Books Mentioned: City of Girls by Elizabeth Gilbert The Woman Upstairs by Claire Messud In Five Years by Rebecca Serle Regretting You by Colleen Hoover Deadly Little Scandals by Jennifer Lynn Barnes (Sequel to Little White Lies) Throne of Glass Series (all 7 books) Twinkle, Twinkle, Social Media Star by Kate Kennedy December Book Club Pick: One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors:
Night: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% off with code BOP20 at checkout. Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. HelloFresh: Get 9 free meals at hellofresh.com and use code BOP9. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Dec 9, 2019 • 41min
Bad on Politics #3: WTF is Medicare for all? Margot Sanger-Katz gives us a healthcare primer
In this episode of Bad on Politics we dive into one of our most-requested topics… healthcare! We’re joined by New York Times journalist, Margot Sanger-Katz, to break down the various healthcare structures on the table in this election and which candidates support which plan. We also spend some time discussing the implications of these plans and whether they’re feasible (or likely given our current congressional map). We’re certainly feeling way more healthcare-literate after this episode, and hope you do too! For more Margot Sanger-Katz: @sangerkatz on twitter https://www.nytimes.com/by/margot-sanger-katz - for her articles About Bad on Politics: Bad on Politics is a monthly bonus episode where we invite a guest expert to help us break down a political topic. We get it, politics is confusing and there's a anxiety-inducing amount of news coverage to follow. So, we're here to ask the "dumb" questions so you don't have to. We want to break things down so you can understand what's going on and make an informed opinion.

Dec 4, 2019 • 1h 20min
Becca Interviews Grace! The blogging biz, dating stories, + more!
For this month’s “Just Us” episodes, Becca had the idea to interview each other! This week Becca interviews Grace and in two weeks, Grace will interview Becca. We crowdsourced the questions from you and had so much fun interviewing each other. You already know Grace but today she’s answering your questions. What really goes into working for yourself as an influencer, the nitty gritty behind choosing brands to work with, how sponsorships work, testing products, and even turning down brands she doesn’t like (awkward!). She shares some of her best dating advice and tells some juicy stories too! We chat about her love of Becca’s cooking, her work ethic, her love affair with Charleston, and of course her cat, Tyrion too! Products Mentioned: Farmacy Cleansing Balm Dr. Augustinus Bader The Rich Cream Weleda Skin Food & Skin Food Light (under $30) Olay Retinol Serum Olay Retinol Eye Cream Seaweed Bath Co. Face Scrub (under $30) Glossier Lash Slick (under $30) L’Oreal Lash Paradise (under $30) L’Oreal Liquid Lipstick (under $30) Ilia Cosmetics Kosas Cosmetics W3ll People Bronzer Store Mentioned: Ron Robinson Gnome Podcast Mentioned: Terrible, Thanks for Asking Obsessions: Bow and Drape Sweatshirts (for Dogs AND Cats, too!) Hourglass: Scattered Light Eyeshadow Instagram Obsessions: @januaryjones @noraborealis Books Mentioned: City of Girls by Elizabeth Gilbert One of us is Next by Karen M. McManus (sequel to: One of Us is Lying) American Dirt by Jeanine Cummins Deadly Little Scandals by Jennifer Lynn Barnes (sequel to: Little White Lies) Klutz Books! December Book Club Pick: One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors:
Night: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% off with code BOP20 at checkout. Away: Visit awaytravel.com/BOP enter code BOP at checkout for $20 off. Equilibria: Go to equilbriawomen.com and enter code BOP at check out for 15% off your first order (the beginner box is not included in this offer) Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Nov 28, 2019 • 52min
Andrea Dunlop (the author of We Came Here to Forget) talks to us about her book!
Yesterday we talked about We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop and today we’re so happy to have her with us for a special bonus episode where we talk about the book! We talk to her about her writing process and how she developed the plot line for the book (which is somehow both thrilling with a happy redemption story). We loved this book, and we learned more about Andrea’s personal experiences that led to writing this. She set out to debunk myths about the issue and what pop culture is getting right and wrong about Munchausen’s by proxy. Andrea is a pantser (not a plotter) when it comes to writing, and she reveals her process, the importance of resilience in the industry, and how she gives back to the community through social media. Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlap Andrea’s Books: Losing the Light She Regrets Nothing Broken Bay: A Novella We Came Here to Forget TV Shows that feature Munchausen’s by Proxy: Sharp Objects on HBO The Act on Hulu The Politician on Netflix Famous Munchausen Cases Mentioned: Gypsy Rose Blanchard Case Lacey Spears Case Books Mentioned: Luckiest Girl Alive by Jessica Knoll This is How it Always Is by Laurie Frankel My Sweet Angel by John Glatt The Thousandth Floor by Katharine McGee The Wives by Tarryn Fisher Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn amazon Girl on the Train by Paula Hawkins You by Caroline Kepnes Looker by Laura Sims The Woman Upstairs by Claire Messud (Instead of the Woman in the Window! ha!) Sponsors:
FitFabFun: $10 off your first box with code BOP at fabfitfun.com Book of the Month: Go to bookofthemonth.com and sign up using code BOP and get any book for $5! Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Nov 27, 2019 • 1h 19min
We Came Here to Forget Book Club
For this month’s book club, we’re talking about We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop. The book follows ex-professional skier, Katie Cleary as she starts a new life in Buenos Aires. Along the way, this book kept us guessing about the dark secret in her past that led her to move away and start a new life. We both devoured this book in one day: Grace needed to find out the shocking truth about Katie’s sister, while Becca was living for Katie’s story of redemption in Argentina—complete with tango lessons and a new, foreign lover. Obsessions: Barefoot Dreams Socks Barefoot Dreams Cardigan Lele Sadoughi x Stoney Clover Lane collab Tuleste Pom Pom Earrings The Body Stone Instagram Obsessions: @bookbaristas @fatpompoms Books Mentioned: We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop (November Book Club Pick!) Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors: Care/of: 50% your first order at takecareof.com with offer code BOP50 at checkout. Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Nov 20, 2019 • 1h 29min
Lauren Chan on modeling, her new plus-size luxury clothing brand, and leaning into what makes you unique.
Today we are joined by Lauren Chan, the founder and CEO of Henning, a newly launched luxury plus-size clothing brand. We’re completely in love with this brand and all its thoughtful details! We’re also obsessed with Lauren, TBH. She gives us a peek into her experiences as both a plus-size model and fashion editor for Glamour Magazine. We get her insight into how the plus-size modeling landscape has changed over the years and how modeling has affected her relationship with her body. Maybe most interesting, she pulls back the curtain on all the retouching (and padding!) that goes on behind the scenes. We’re shook! We also chat about her experience starting her own business (without any outside funding!), and the lessons she’s learned along the way. Products, places, and links mentioned: Check out Henning here. You can also take 15% off with code badonpaper15. Follow Lauren at @lcchan and Henning at @henning We had our celebratory pod dinner at Gramercy Tavern We stayed at The Statler hotel in Dallas (and loved it!) Lauren’s Skincare Routine: Dermalogica Cleanser Drunk Elephant Vitamin C Serum Supergoop Sunscreen Dr. Bronner Face Cream Korres Overnight Facial Fresh Black Tea Eye Cream Lauren’s Makeup Routine: Nars Creamy Concealer Benefit Goof-proof Eyebrow Pencil MAC Lipstick in Velvet Teddy Clinique Mascara Obsessions: Sarah Flint Perfect Bootie 70mm heel (BOP45 for $45 off) The Body Stone Instagram Obsessions: @sarahfcarter @_hellostella_ Books Mentioned: We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop (November Book Club Pick!) Modern Love edited by Daniel Jones Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid Throne of Glass Series by Sarah J Maas Sponsors: Night Pillow: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% off with code BOP20 at checkout. Equilibria Women: Go to equilbriawomen.com and enter code BOP at check out for 15% off your first order (the beginner box is not included in this offer) LOLA: you can 30% off your first month’s subscription with code BOP30 at www.mylola.com Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Nov 13, 2019 • 1h 14min
Personality Tests! A deep dive into the 5 love languages, The Enneagram, + Myers Briggs
We don’t know about you but we are both personality test obsessed. Today we’re taking a look at three of our favorites: the 5 love languages, the Enneagram, and Myers Briggs. Every personality has its good and its bad, and we are both very cool with both sides of our own (thankfully!) If you ever think that Becca is roasting Grace, don’t worry - that is how she shows love. We also break down introverts vs. extroverts. Grace gets on her soapbox: Just because you’re introverted doesn’t mean you’re shy! We have a ton in common personality - wise, but when we differ, we definitely DIFFER! Take the quizzes yourself and see what we all have in common, and then come about them with us in the facebook group! Quizzes Mentioned: The 5 Love Languages - Take the test! Enneagrams - Take the test! Myers & Briggs - 16 Personalities: Take the test! Podcast Mentioned: Selfie Obsessions: Garlic Short Rib Recipe by Alison Roman Modern Love - Amazon Prime Kosas - lip oils - sephora Instagram Obsessions: @tristan_watson @the_spines Books Mentioned: We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop (November Book Club Pick!) The Gifted School by Bruce Holsinger Perfect Tunes by Emily Gould Sponsors: Borghese: Go to borghese.com and enter code BOP25 for 25% off at checkout. FitFabFun: $10 off your first box with code BOP at fabfitfun.com. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Nov 6, 2019 • 1h 41min
Eva Chen on writing children’s books, meeting Oprah, and why “balance” is a myth (and that’s okay)!
Today we are joined by Eva Chen! Eva probably needs no introduction but she’s the Director of Fashion Partnerships at Instagram. What you may not know is that she’s also a children’s book author and the self proclaimed “Walter White of vintage Chanel jackets!” Eva talks about everything from changing careers, meeting your heroes IRL (Oprah!!), getting a book deal, and following your dreams. She also gets vulnerable, talking about what it’s like to worry that people won’t like her work. We round out the episode with all of Eva’s favorites: up & coming fashion designers, beauty obsessions (a very fancy face roller), a fancy hotel, and of course — YA novels. Designers Mentioned: Pyer Moss Rejina Pyo Ganni 16 Arlington Lesyanebo Racil Contro collection Net-a-Porter Premier Products Mentioned: Elemis Pro-Collagen Cleansing Balm Augustinus Bader Refa Face Roller Joanna Czech Facials Elaine Huntzinger Facial Obsessions: Glow Bar Horoscope necklaces at Candyshop Vintage Instagram Obsessions: @Benlenovitz @rachelista For more Eva on Instagram: @evachen212 @tbannister Books Mentioned: Get a life Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop (November Book Club Pick!) Throne of Glass Series by Sarah Maas 6 of Crows by Leigh Bardugo Save Me the Plums by Ruth Reichl The Queen of the Tearling Trilogy by Erika Johansen The Selection by Kiera Cass Eva’s Books: Juno Valentine and the Magical Shoes by Eva Chen A is for Awesome by Eva Chen Juno Valentine and the Fabulous Fashion Adventure by Eva Chen Hotels Mentioned: Coco Island - Maldives The Rosewood Hotel - London Sponsors: Night: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% of your order with code BOP20 Equilibria: Go to equilbriawomen.com and enter code BOP for 15% off your first order (the beginner box is not included in this offer) Away: Visit awaytravel.com enter code BOP at checkout for $20 off. Check out tickets to our Fall live show in Dallas Tonight! Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Oct 31, 2019 • 1h 32min
Carly the Prepster: Unfiltered. Carly answers ALL your questions.
“We have all sent a DM we regret” - Carly Heitlinger, carlytheprepster.com Our friend Carly drops in for a bonus episode to answer literally every single one of your questions! She puts it all out there, the good, bad, and the ugly. She lets us in on the biggest misconceptions about her (She is not as outgoing as you may think, and she doesn’t share everything!), how she navigates being introverted, dealing with anxiety, and her thoughts on online snark forums. We also talk about breakups, sex, hair bows, and more! Lastly, she shares her advice for cutting the cord when a relationship is over - and how to get your control back! Products Mentioned: Awesome Etiquette Podcast Coffee Break French Podcast Blue Bistro (hulu series) Books Mentioned: Babysitters Club Series by Ann M. Martin Boys in the Boat by Daniel James Brown Harry Potter Series by JK Rowling The Magicians by Lev Grossman Little Fires Everywhere by Celeste Ng Elin Hilderbrand’s Books How Could She by Lauren Mechling Bad Blood by John Carryrou Quiet by Susan Cain Audio Books Mentioned: Daisy Jones and The Six by Taylor Jenkins Reid The Dutch House by Ann Patchett (Tom Hanks narrates!) Save me The Plums by Ruth Reichl Sponsors: Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. For more Carly: carlytheprepster.com instagram: @carly Twitter: @carly bookstagram: @carlysbookclub Facebook Group: Carly the Prepster Group Goodreads: College Prepster Check out tickets to our Fall live shows in New York City and Dallas. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.