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RogueStartups
On Rogue Startups we share the journey of startup founders as they're growing their businesses. We feature experts in the fields of sales, marketing, and product development to hear how they're growth hacking their productized services and SaaS products. If you're on the journey of an entrepreneur then tune and hear how we're tackling some of the same obstacles you may be facing, and how we're winning in the game of business. Listeners of Startups for the Rest of Us, My First Million, Mixergy, and Bootstrapped Web will love checking out our show.
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Apr 17, 2024 • 38min
RS308: Programmatic SEO with Stuart Brameld
Creating content that will engage readers and appease the algorithm gods is a difficult task. That’s where Stuart Brameld comes in. He is here today to share his insights on growth, marketing, programmatic SEO, and content creation with Craig and the Rogue Startup listeners. He also talks about how Growth Method can help your company grow and gives tips on how to effectively use AI to help you create perfectly worded web content.
What is Growth Method? When should you use AI when creating content? What is programmable SEO?
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
When should you use AI when creating content? What is Growth Method? What is programmable SEO?
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
What Stuart and Growth Method does for their clients
Adopting a growth and experimentation approach to marketing
Stuart’s definition of experimentation in terms of company tasks
What you can do if you don’t have enough data for meaningful testing
Decisions made without supporting data
Don’t post content and forget about it
Moving through stages in the design and planning phases
Programmatic SEO powered with AI
Case study: review site
Going from a spreadsheet to WordPress
Zapier and Make.com
WordPress formatting
Making mistakes when posting content
Posting a lot of content at once
Improving the design and aesthetic of content after the baseline is in place
Tips for using AI for content creation
Using custom instructions
Finding an AI coach (if you’re interested, send Craig a message)
AI versus hiring writers
Top-of-funnel content
What to be aware of when you’re working with programmatic SEO
How Link Whisper can help with internal links
Resources:
Growth Method
Reach out to Stuart on Twitter/X
Stuart on LinkedIn
Follow Craig on Twitter/X
Castos
Founder Insights

Apr 10, 2024 • 19min
RS307: Doing Less and Doing It Better
Learning valuable lessons on your journey to success can take a while. Today, Craig shares his insights on this topic as it correlates to Castos and to his goal of creating 200 episodes in 2024. (Spoiler alert: things are going well for him.)
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to say no to something. As entrepreneurs and bootstrappers, we have ambitions and goals, but it’s not always feasible to say yes to everything you want to do. Those of us working in a micro-SaaS business can find more success by niching down and focusing all our efforts on making one great product or service. So…
Are you niched down as much as possible?
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
Updates on Craig’s goal of 200 episodes goal
Gear fatigue and indecision
Finding a recording setup and format that works for you
Interviews versus solo episodes
The difficulties of video over audio content
Founder Minimalism
Doing well with one thing
Diversifying your products or services
Fighting the urge to do everything
Utilizing and building a personal brand
Indirect impact on you and your business
Making what you want to do a little easier
The steps to build and bolster your personal brand
Resources:
Follow Craig on Twitter/X
Castos
Founder Insights

Apr 3, 2024 • 43min
RS306: YouTube Growth Secrets w/ Aaron Francis
Making it big on any social media platform can be an arduous journey. You have to worry about your equipment. What looks good? What content is interesting right now? How do I get people to find me? YouTube has its own brand of problems too. How long do you make videos? What should the thumbnail look like? To script or not to script; that is one of many questions.
On today’s show, Craig welcomes Aaron Francis, software developer, content creator, and YouTube genius. Craig picks Aaron’s brain about his best practices when it comes to making videos and other content. They talk about what makes YouTube so special in the social media world. Not to mention, Aaron voices his opinion on personal brands. Loyal listeners already know Craig’s opinion. #TeamPersonalBrand
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
Why choose to put your efforts into YouTube rather than other mediums
Different formats of video which will make you stand out
How podcasting works within a marketing plan
Overcomplicating your tech when you should focus on your content
Best practices and focuses that have worked well for Aaron
Understanding the pattern of content that works for YouTube
Adapting to the platform is important
Take a piece of content and wrap it in something more interesting and clickable
Have an angle, not necessarily a unique angle
With every video, make it feel like it’s your first video and no one knows you
The difference between content on YouTube versus other platforms
What Aaron has been up to lately
The power of a personal brand
A personal brand is valuable in general
Resources:
Try Hard Studios
Connect with Aaron on Twitter/X
Castos
Founder Insights

Mar 27, 2024 • 41min
RS305: Validating SaaS In An Enormous Market w/ Christopher Gimmer
Is there such a thing as the perfect SaaS business? How are you creating your opportunities? Are you focusing on your end goal for your business? Today, Craig is joined by Christopher Gimmer from Snappa and Good Metrics. Chris talks about his path, which led him to founding multiple businesses and a successful exit. He dives into his decision-making process and how he finds his next big opportunity. As entrepreneurs who have 100% bootstrapped their businesses, Craig and Chris talk about their processes, successes, and lessons they have learned on their journeys.
It can be hard to realize, narrow down, and make big-picture decisions for your company, especially if you’ve built it yourself. Yes, it is your baby, but it’s important to realize when to let go and when to grasp new opportunities.
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
Learning about best practice business models from previous endeavors
Expansion revenue vs low churn
The importance of keeping focused on business goals. Acquisition? Expansion?
How Chris finds, makes, and determines new opportunities
Pricing and business models
How to be business-critical
Naming: when to bite the bullet
The status of Good Metrics
Marketing and differentiating yourself from your competition
Horizontal vs Vertical SaaS businesses
Resources:
Find Chris on Twitter/X
Christopher Gimmer
Nathan Berry’s article, “Direct Sales for Bootstrapped SaaS Startups: from $1,300 to $725,000 MRR”
Castos
Founder Insights

Mar 20, 2024 • 46min
RS304: What Is Google Doing?! (w/ Spencer Haws)
The world of SEO is changing at a rapid pace because of AI. How can we keep up? Can you still find, generate, and publish unique content online? The answer is yes. Google says that around 20% of online searches every day are ones they’ve never seen before. Here to talk about all that is SEO and keyword guru, Spencer Haws.
In this episode of the Rogue Startups Podcast, Spencer and Craig both talk about how they use AI and how human writers can work with AI-generated content. Spencer also gives his crystal ball prediction of what SEO will look like in the next five years. They also chat about where the platform of podcasting fits in the content world, face-to-face conferences and masterminds, and the reasons to stay with a business after receiving buyout offers.
Spencer grew up in Mesa, Arizona, and moved to Richland, Washington. Because of the influence of his entrepreneur father and because he grew up during the dot com boom (and bust), he started dabbling in website creation in 2005. Since then, he has learned how search engine optimization works and how to best build and grow niche websites. The best way to contact Spencer with any questions or comments is here.
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
What is Link Whisperer and how will it help you
Is Rank Logic good for larger or smaller websites?
The best ways to use AI for content creation
Using AI for Listicles
SGE (Search Generative Experience) and SEO
Content development and marketing
Separating your business from your life
How Spencer keeps up with the evolution of the industry
Books versus podcasts
The importance of conferences, masterminds, and business groups
To exit or not to exit, that is the question
Resources:
Reach out to Spencer
Connect with Spencer on Twitter/X
Rank Logic
Link Whisper
Niche Pursuits
Castos
Founder Insights

Mar 14, 2024 • 14min
RS303: After The Desert
In this solo episode, Craig talks through a recent mindset shift in the business.
https://youtu.be/vG0YKhAdPl0
Going from Zero to One you need to put out so many fires, and do so many things, and then in the growth phase you’re constantly trying new approaches, channels, messages, and levers. Here in the post-growth, calm phase, Craig’s found it a bit different to balance the Certainty and Uncertainty of running the business.
Craig’s also offering one-on-one founder coaching to SaaS founders looking to get from 0 to $3M ARR – head over to craighewitt.me/coaching to find out more and schedule a free consultation.

Feb 19, 2024 • 54min
RS302: Beyond Content Marketing with Doug Cunnington
Doug Cunnington is an affiliate marketing, SEO, AI, and content marketing expert. Today, Craig and Doug chat about their experiences as founders and with web content, in hopes that they can learn from each other and pass along some tidbits of info to listeners.
AI-generated content is everywhere these days. The content marketing industry is split down the middle: they either embrace it or are pushing back. Is it worth it? Craig and Doug deep dive into their opinions on AI content, how they use it, and what the future of content marketing looks like. They talk about their cadence on YouTube and various other platforms. They also chat about exiting, retirement, and their paths now that they’re getting older.
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
Doug’s journey to content marketing
Position yourself so you don’t have to react immediately
The constantly changing industry of content
The value of a content marketing strategy
AI-generated content
Scripting for YouTube: shorter, tighter videos
Entrepreneurship and SaaS as you get older
Feeding the YouTube algorithm what it wants
Content strategy differences between YouTube and podcasts
Resources:
Doug’s YouTube Channel
Castos
Founder Insights

Jan 31, 2024 • 48min
RS301: Why Brands Grow with Marc Thomas
One of the biggest lessons Marc Thomas learned about creating engaging content was the importance of bringing in bits of his personality. Today, Craig talks with Marc Thomas about how he has made a name for himself in the world of content and brand growth. Marc emphasizes what some of us forgot: B2B content has a purpose and we have to know what that purpose is. They also talk about the effectiveness of marketing “best practices,” the importance of transparency, Podia’s biggest marketing push and how it worked, and competitor landing pages.
Marc Thomas is the Senior Growth Marketer at Podia. Since 2014, Podia has been committed to building the most creator-friendly tools to help their customers sell online courses, digital downloads, membership subscriptions, and more to their audience.
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
The justification for B2B content: it doesn’t have to be boring and it has a purpose
Connecting your customers to a business outcome
How Podia created engaging, viral B2B content
Lessons from How Brands Grow by Byron Sharp
Vertical versus horizontal SaaS
Do marketing best practices really work?
Generosity and transparency
Competitor landing pages are insurance policies for your buyers
Continuing to learn and refine your craft
Balancing personal growth and playbooks
Failure is relative; people are adaptable
Resources:
Marc Thomas, LinkedIn
“How Brands Grow: What Marketers Don’t Know” by Byron Sharp
Castos
Founder Insights

Jan 19, 2024 • 23min
RS300: What’s Killing Google, and Exiting The Startup Phase
It’s the 300th episode of Rogue Startups, and it’s all about personal updates and professional improvements. Craig talks about where Rogue Startups started and what the future holds for this podcast and podcasting in general. What mediums will everyone gravitate toward this year? Who will win in this cage match between Google, YouTube, AI, SEO, and social media?
Craig also talks about where he wants to spend his time and energy in 2024. He has an ambitious but achievable goal of creating and publishing 200 videos on YouTube this year. Not to mention, he dives into this theory on personal engagement and personal content and how those things will change soon as well. Will they be more or less important?
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
Evolving in the podcast industry
The difference between podcasting and YouTube
YouTube versus Google
What is the medium of the future?
AI trends and what that means for writers
Personal engagement and personal content
Diversifying beyond SEO content
The goal is optionality
Growth from the awkward teenage years to a mature adult
Building the right system and getting the right team
Resources:
Castos
Founder Insights

Jan 12, 2024 • 50min
RS299: YouTube Scripting Done Right with George Blackman
George Blackman joins Craig in this installment of the Rogue Startups YouTube series. They chat about scripting episodes and what you can do to prepare yourself for making successful videos. George has had years of experience working with successful YouTubers who have had millions of views on their videos, in part because of George’s scripts.
George and Craig also discuss why scripting is important, how to use a teleprompter, and the pros and cons of riffing versus being intentional and planning content. On the topic of AI, they focus on how he utilizes AI for title creation. One example of a prompt being:
“I am writing a video based on a topic and a “grand payoff” that I’ll provide below. Based on these two components, what emotional transformation will viewers have experienced by the end? (Related to the Grand Payoff)
Question/Topic: [insert here]
Grand Payoff: Viewers will understand XYZ.”
George is a consulting YouTube scriptwriter based just outside London. He has written scripts for creators like Ali Abdaal, Noah Kagan, Creator Booth, and Mike Shake. His new course (”YouTube Scriptwriter’s Playbook” Course) focuses on systemizing the process of scriptwriting to maximize retention. It starts on January 12th. Join in at a discount by using the code: launch10.
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Send Craig an email at podcast@roguestartups.com. If you feel like our podcast has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes. We’ll see you next week!
Highlights:
Improvising versus planned content
Find the key “punchy” moments from your notes
Sewing together mini-payoffs
Set-up, tension, and resolution
Start listicles with a punchy start, in the middle, and at the end
Thread in story elements and relevant personal anecdotes
How scripting saves time
Beginner teleprompter tips
George’s process for creating great videos:
Retention checklist: Information, progression, regression, and emotion
Creating and planning payoffs and tension
Repetition. Are you repeating information?
Clarity: conversational scripts that sound like yourself
AI and scriptwriting
YouTube versus Twitter/X
Tips for educational and informative videos
Analyzing your videos to create better content
Resources:
George’s website
”YouTube Scriptwriter’s Playbook” Course Discount Code: launch10
Connect with George on Twitter/X
Castos
Founder Insights