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Jan 8, 2025 • 18min

Introducing Jane's LME addiction: The bookends of the Serta era

For this week’s Cloud 9fin episode, we’re launching a new monthly recurring series: Jane’s LME Addiction, in which distressed legal analyst Jane Komsky dives into the latest news in liability management. Joined by 9fin global head of distressed and restructuring Max Frumes and 9fin head of legal James Wallick, Jane walks through the landmark decision out of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Serta Simmons case and what it means for LMEs going forward.Find all our coverage on Serta at 9fin.com, including our latest stories on the contours of potential uptiering transactions in 2025 and the evolution from Serta blockers to “Fifth Circuit blockers.”If you have any feedback for us, send us a note at podcast@9fin.com. Thanks for listening.
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Dec 18, 2024 • 32min

More tailwinds than headwinds for CLOs in 2025

Pratik Gupta, Head of CLO and RMBS research at Bank of America, shares insights on the thriving CLO market. He highlights the record-breaking performance of CLO BBs and AAA markets, with returns soaring since 2022. Gupta discusses the rising appeal of AAA CLOs among investors, strategic shifts by U.S. banks, and the influence of Japanese buyers. He also delves into the complexities of Loan Market Exchange structures and how CLO managers can navigate the evolving landscape of 2025. Expect more growth and strategic depth ahead!
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Dec 11, 2024 • 36min

How to fix a broken balance sheet

Mike Harmon, a Stanford lecturer and managing partner at Gaviota Advisors, shares insights from his book on fixing broken balance sheets. He likens corporate debt dynamics to treating sick patients, explaining how even giants like Twitter can fall prey to high debt. The conversation explores the impact of meme stocks on vulnerable companies, while also discussing strategies for restructuring that highlight the balance between vision and practical tools. Harmon emphasizes the need for adaptability in today’s financial landscape, filled with challenges and opportunities.
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Dec 4, 2024 • 47min

On becoming the voice of Europe's buyside

After a great run co-founding and helping to build up the European Leveraged Finance Association, Sabrina Fox is putting ELFA on the shelf to focus on her work at Fox Legal Training and Good Girl to Goddess.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, ESG analyst Jennifer Munnings sits down with Sabrina to explore how ELFA has shaped buyside engagement and elevated standards in credit markets. From the rise of J.Crew blockers and their impact on covenant protections to ELFA’s efforts to foster transparency and innovation in ESG practices, Sabrina offers a front-row perspective on the evolving landscape of leveraged finance. They also discuss the challenges of balancing incumbent flexibility with investor safeguards and what lies ahead for the industry as Sabrina embarks on her next chapter.Have any feedback on this episode? Send us a note at podcast@9fin.com. Thanks for listening.
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Nov 27, 2024 • 14min

The case for lower middle market lending

Michelle Handy, Chief Investment Officer of Direct Lending at First Eagle Alternative Credit, shares her expertise in lower middle market lending. She discusses the challenges of intensifying competition and a complex macroeconomic landscape. Handy highlights asset-based lending as a promising strategy and emphasizes the critical role of strong sponsor relationships during turbulent times. Additionally, she dives into the nuances of covenant negotiations and the impact of retail capital on the lower middle market, shedding light on investment prospects and risks.
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Nov 25, 2024 • 13min

Lycra stretches out for private credit

Stakeholders face tough choices as Lycra navigates a complex balance sheet while considering a private credit option. The podcast delves into the strategic dynamics of financing in tight markets, where private credit is becoming increasingly appealing. Listeners learn about the intricate negotiations and conflicts among bondholders and financial players involved in restructuring. Additionally, it highlights the risks and challenges of refinancing, showcasing the changing landscape of private credit that adapts to current economic pressures.
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Nov 20, 2024 • 36min

What could go wrong in the 'golden age' of private credit?

Dan Zwirn, Co-founding CEO and CIO of Arena Investors, delves into the complexities of the private credit market. He challenges the notion that we are in a 'golden age,' addressing the oversaturation and risks tied to direct lending. Zwirn discusses how monetary policies may impact investments and the rising bankruptcies in the space. He highlights the challenges faced by both General Partners and Limited Partners, along with strategies to navigate this evolving landscape, emphasizing a cautious yet opportunistic approach.
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Nov 13, 2024 • 12min

Two continents divided by the same numbers

Private credit in both the US and Europe has faced a great deal of pressure from bank lenders in 2024. But despite a slow start, the asset class is holding its ground on a year-to-date basis.In this week’s episode of Cloud 9fin, private credit editor David Brooke digs into the data with analysts Devin McGinley and Elijah Jackson. They chat through the trends, diving into their respective Q3 2024 private credit reports. You can read both reports here and here.To learn more about 9fin’s private credit reports, send a note to the team at private-credit@9fin.com. For feedback on the podcast, or to learn how to get involved, send a note to podcast@9fin.com.Thanks for listening!
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Nov 8, 2024 • 10min

Red dawn

The recent election results are reshaping the financial landscape, influencing equities and bond yields. Tariffs and inflation effects loom large, especially for retailers reliant on imports. Political changes are creating divergent impacts across sectors like metals and renewable energy. ESG perspectives show stark contrasts between the US and Europe. Additionally, the private prison sector is witnessing a revival as the political climate shifts, highlighting the complex ties between business and politics.
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Nov 6, 2024 • 11min

How funds are NAVigating the M&A lull

Peter Benson, a private credit reporter at 9fin, dives into the intricacies of NAV loan structures during a challenging M&A environment. He discusses the shift toward NAV lending as a flexible liquidity solution amid low deal activity. Expect insights on how NAV loans compare to traditional financing methods and the evolving role of private credit firms in this landscape. Benson also highlights the implications of Federal Reserve policies on future M&A activity and the structural challenges private equity sponsors face in adapting to current financial realities.

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