

Voices of CLO
Chief Learning Officer
The learning and development space is thriving, expanding and always changing. The leaders in this community are being tasked with more now than ever before — and, in many cases, are taking a more secure seat at the C-suite table, especially as organizations prioritize skills development and tout continuous learning as a competitive advantage. Hear from the movers and shakers in L&D as they share their stories, their successes and setbacks, and what's top of mind as we move forward into the FUTURE of learning and work.
We are by CLOs, for CLOs.
We are by CLOs, for CLOs.
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Jun 30, 2025 • 48min
Episode 28: Voices of CLO: Joyce Lee & Emma Howard
This episode of Voices of CLO features a conversation with Ashley St. John, CLO's editor-in-chief, Joyce Lee, director of client success at cross-cultural learning company Aperian, and Emma Howard, group head of talent and development at LGC, a global life sciences organization. Today, Joyce and Emma dive into the topic of prioritizing L&D for global relevance and real impact.

Jun 18, 2025 • 1h 2min
Episode 27: Voices of CLO: Peter Ronayne
Welcome back to Voices of CLO! Ashley is joined by Peter Ronayne, Ph.D., senior faculty at the Center for Creative Leadership. Together, they dive into the critical importance of talent development, especially in today's unpredictable landscape, and how organizations that invest in talent now will be better positioned for future success. Pete also shares insights from CCL's new report, "Supporting Talent Development: Creating Collective Capability in an Unpredictable Context."

Mar 5, 2025 • 39min
Episode 26: Voices of CLO: Rich Douglas - Part 2
In this episode of Voices of CLO, Ashley St. John, CLO's editor-in-chief, is joined by Rich Douglas, executive director of Bellevue University's Human Capital Lab, for Part 2 of this two-part discussion on the role of the chief learning officer!To hear more from Rich, check out the Human Capital Lab Podcast, which explores the intersection between learning and the lives of the people who make businesses go!

Feb 25, 2025 • 32min
Episode 24: Voices of CLO: Danielle Hart and Kelly Lake
In this episode of Voices of CLO, Ashley St. John, CLO's editor-in-chief, is joined by Danielle Hart, CEO of SweetRush, and Kelly Lake, SweetRush's chief strategy officer. Danielle and Kelly share insights and takeaways on the evolution of learning and development, how to ensure skills development programs remain relevant and future-proof, how SweetRush is working with clients to tackle knowledge loss and ensure effective knowledge sharing across organizations, AI implications for L&D and more.

Feb 24, 2025 • 38min
Episode 25: Voices of CLO: Rich Douglas - Part 1
In this episode of Voices of CLO, Ashley St. John, CLO's editor-in-chief, is joined by Rich Douglas, executive director of Bellevue University's Human Capital Lab. In Part 1 of this two-part episode, Ashley and Rich dive into the role of the chief learning officer and what the journey to that role looks like, including what areas CLOs need to develop and resources they can use to do so. To hear more from Rich, check out the Human Capital Lab Podcast, which explores the intersection between learning and the lives of the people who make businesses go!

Dec 17, 2024 • 39min
Episode 23: Voices of CLO: Dr. John Comerford
In this episode of Voices of CLO, Ashley St. John, CLO's editor-in-chief, catches up with Dr. John Comerford, president of Otterbein University and Coalition for the Common Good.

Sep 30, 2024 • 28min
Episode 22: Voices of CLO: David Vance
This episode of Voices of CLO features a conversation with author and educator David Vance about the ISO standard for learning and development metrics, and what standardization could do for the L&D industry.

Sep 9, 2024 • 1h 4min
Episode 21: Voices of CLO: Tracy Duberman and Sandra Murray
In this episode of Voices of CLO, Ashley St. John, CLO's editor-in-chief, chats with Tracy Duberman, Ph.D., president & CEO of The Leadership Development Group, and Sandra Murray, Ph.D., system vice president of learning & organization development at CommonSpirit Health, about the lifelong learning journey.

Aug 26, 2024 • 27min
Episode 20: Voices of CLO: Simon Brown
This episode of Voices of CLO features a conversation with Simon Brown, global learning and development leader at EY.

Jun 24, 2024 • 26min
Episode 19: Voices of CLO: Kevin Lowell
This episode of Voices of CLO features a conversation with Kevin Lowell, executive vice president, chief people officer and head of communications at UScellular.