

Conversational Selling
Nancy Calabrese
In today’s world of business, when it comes to picking up the phone, most people hate it and won’t do it.
There’s a belief that cold calling doesn’t work. It won’t work if it’s not done consistently. Today’s audience tends to hide behind social media and uses excuses like “there’s no point, customers will be annoyed. They don’t like receiving cold calls”. That is completely false.
The truth is emotions are difficult to convey through words in a written email or in digital marketing. Bottom line? Robots will NEVER replace human conversation and emotion.
We imagine a time when more sales professionals feel empowered to connect with their clients through personable strategies like picking up the phone, chatting on a video call, or having meaningful in-person meetings. Which will create long-term relationships and stronger customer lifetime value- even if we must persevere through the “no’s” to find the “yes’s”.
The Conversational Selling Audience loves learning about the art of communication between human beings which leads to more meaningful connections. These connections drive new business at the right time and keep you top of mind when the prospect is ready to buy. Selling is not just a business skill, it's a life skill. At the end of the day, sales is just about the human connection.
There’s a belief that cold calling doesn’t work. It won’t work if it’s not done consistently. Today’s audience tends to hide behind social media and uses excuses like “there’s no point, customers will be annoyed. They don’t like receiving cold calls”. That is completely false.
The truth is emotions are difficult to convey through words in a written email or in digital marketing. Bottom line? Robots will NEVER replace human conversation and emotion.
We imagine a time when more sales professionals feel empowered to connect with their clients through personable strategies like picking up the phone, chatting on a video call, or having meaningful in-person meetings. Which will create long-term relationships and stronger customer lifetime value- even if we must persevere through the “no’s” to find the “yes’s”.
The Conversational Selling Audience loves learning about the art of communication between human beings which leads to more meaningful connections. These connections drive new business at the right time and keep you top of mind when the prospect is ready to buy. Selling is not just a business skill, it's a life skill. At the end of the day, sales is just about the human connection.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Nov 10, 2020 • 23min
Colleen Stanley | The Importance of Emotional Intelligence in Sales Leadership
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we’re joined by Colleen Stanley, President of Sales Leadership, Inc., a sales development firm specializing in the integration of emotional intelligence, sales, and sales leadership skills. Salesforce.com named Colleen as one of the top sales influencers of the 21st century, in addition to her being mentioned among the top 50 sales and marketing influencers and the top 30 sales gurus. She is also the author of three fabulous books: Emotional Intelligence for Sales Success, Emotional Intelligence for Sales Leadership, and Growing Great Sales Teams.“If you've had the luxury and the good fortune of engaging in formal sales training programs, you would teach your team the skills, they could roleplay it in the classroom, and then you might see that the same salespeople that were modeling the right behaviors in a workshop would buckle when they got on a real sales call with a tough prospect. So, what I found is that EQ, the soft skills, actually helped with the consistent execution of the hard skills,” says Colleen.We chat about the importance of emotional intelligence in selling and sales leadership, as well as:
The hard and soft skills of selling
The importance of ongoing training in sales— why “one-and-done” training is holding you back
Integrating empathy into your sales process
Remote selling and emotional expression
And more

Nov 4, 2020 • 19min
Judy Hoberman | Giving Women in Business the Tools They Need to Be Successful
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we’re joined by special guest, Judy Hoberman, President of Walking on the Glass Floor and Selling in a Skirt. She is an international trainer, coach, author, and mentor, and her 30 years of business experience has given her both the knowledge and a great sense of humor about how men and women sell, work, and live differently. She is also one of the female pioneers in the insurance world and is the host of the weekly podcast, Selling in a Skirt. “Sales today is a little bit more difficult than it was, but it isn’t outrageously difficult. I always say that now is the time to share opportunities and collaborate. It’s the time to find people that you can do things with and make yourself even stronger. In that, you can also be a champion, whether you're male or male or female, you can be a champion for another woman in business that you can open a door up to, or you can collaborate with, or you can show an opportunity to,” says Judy.We chat about her goal to empower women and give them the tools they need to be successful, as well as:
Her shift towards virtual coaching
Prejudgement
The differences between how men and women work and sell
Why humor in sales is so important
The women’s roundtable
And more

Oct 21, 2020 • 20min
Laurel Bernstein | How Active Listening Can Help You Sell More Effectively
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we sit down with Laurel Bernstein, Founder and President of Laurel Bernstein and Associates, a consulting and training firm providing performance and leadership skill training for business professionals. Laurel has an extensive background as a facilitator and trainer and aims to be able to help and advise business owners on their business models and team development.“I spent the first 25 years of my life as a painfully shy person; in groups I rarely had anything to say. But, I started to study listening skills and learned that you don't have to be born a good listener, it's actually a skill you can learn. So, I became a student of listening, and as a result, I would hear and observe things that people didn't even realize. I realized that I knew a lot more about what was going on in a room than the people who were participating,” says Laurel.We chat about what sets Laurel apart from others in her field, as well as:
How active listening can help you sell more effectively
Her tips for keeping sales skills sharp
Why every conversation is a negotiation
What makes someone successful in sales
And more

Oct 7, 2020 • 21min
David Trapani | Achieving Better Results Using Sandler Training
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we’re joined by Dave Trapani, the CEO of AGT and Associates, an authorized Sandler Training center. Dave has over 25 years of sales, marketing, and management experience, and helps business owners and leaders gain an edge to move their business development efforts to the next level. He firmly believes that many sales challenges can be fixed by attitude, behavior, and technique, and as a longtime client of Dave’s, I can say firsthand that it works. “I think the real game-changer is that we do things 180 degrees differently than all other salespeople out there. So most salespeople think we should be headed in a certain direction, or taking certain actions to move a deal forward, but at Sandler, most of the techniques and approaches that we use are actually counterintuitive to what that person thinks they should be doing,” says Dave.We chat about the Sandler methodology and what makes it unique, as well as:
Why the best sales results come from using “the trifecta”
The importance of ongoing training
Why salespeople are often frightened by new techniques
His biggest successes and challenges
And more

Sep 23, 2020 • 18min
Joe Pici | Taking a Consultative Approach to Selling
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we’re joined by special guest, Joe Pici. Joe is the CEO and Co-Founder of Pici & Pici Inc., providing sales teams with skill training, professional speaking training, executive coaching, keynote presentations, and live phone call workshops. He is also currently ranked as the number one sales trainer worldwide by Global Gurus.“My wife and I were $350,000 in medical debt and we signed up in a part-time direct sales business with no background in sales, but, we could not find good sales training. And so, just by trial and error, we paid off our medical debt on cold calling and we started to develop some skills. Then they started throwing us up on stages around the world, trying to get us to motivate people, and we did that. And then around 2003, I remember walking off stage and I told my wife that there's a big gap in the marketplace and that I wanted to really focus on skill-based training to help people really develop the skills to get in front of their target market. That's how we got started,” says Joe.We chat about how Joe got his start in sales, as well as:
Rapport mastery
Using sales scripts effectively
Priority management
His podcast series, Sales Edge
And more

Sep 9, 2020 • 19min
Meridith Powell | Why Uncertainty May Be The Catalyst You Need To Catapult Your Business
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we speak with special guest Meridith Elliott Powell. Meridith is an award-winning author, keynote speaker, and business strategist with a background in corporate sales and leadership. She is also an avid podcaster who is passionate about selling. She's currently busy writing her newest book and is obsessed with the word uncertainty.“If uncertainty always has to be negative, it becomes this thing that we are all waiting for to drop out of the sky, to stop us dead in our tracks from ever succeeding, and it just kept me wondering, why does uncertainty have to be a bad thing? Why does it have to be negative, and what would happen if we flipped the script on that? What if uncertainty was actually the very thing that you needed to be the catalyst that would actually catapult your business to the next level?”, asks Meridith.We chat more about uncertainty, as well as:
The inspiration for her new book
How her business has pivoted in response to COVID
Her podcast, Sales Logic
Why now is the absolute worst time to stand on the sidelines
And more

Aug 19, 2020 • 18min
Darryl Praill | Why Your Personal Brand Is More Important Now Than It’s Ever Been
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we sit down with special guest Darryl Praill. Darryl is the Chief Revenue Officer at VanillaSoft, the industry’s most established sales engagement platform, as well as an award-winning marketer, a Sales World Top 50 Keynote Speaker, a Top 10 SaaS Branding Expert, radio broadcaster, podcaster, and social media influencer. He has also raised over $100 million in venture capital.“I’ve had the success I've had in my career by being incredibly, uncomfortably, awkwardly vulnerable and transparent, which is saying, well, Darryl, you've won these awards, you've raised a lot of money, and that's a lot of power brokers and a lot of rooms— How can you do that by being so vulnerable and transparent? And the reason is that people look at you and say, wow, you’re that vulnerable and transparent and don't mind sharing it, you must be really confident, or you're really relatable,” says Darryl. We chat about the key differences between a sales engagement platform and a CRM, as well as:
Pivoting to increase your sales pipeline
Never being above cold-calling
How a pipeline solves everything
Developing a personal brand
And more

Jul 22, 2020 • 19min
Matt Heinz | How Conversational Marketing Helps Drive Audience Engagement
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we sit down with special guest Matt Heinz. Matt is the President of Heinz Marketing, which focuses on B2B sales and marketing based on buyer insights and market-driven best practices. He is also the host of a weekly podcast, Sales Pipeline Radio. He is also a prolific author, nationally recognized, award-winning blogger, and dynamic speaker, known for his keen insights and actionable takeaways.“I think, first of all, it's just being willing to write and talk the way that you would if you were in front of someone in a casual format. There's an awful lot of our marketing that, if we look at it and think about it, and if we're honest about it, is us trying to get a message across to a prospect. It’s us trying to say something that we want to say. That is a one-sided conversation, it is technically not a conversation, but it is. I think if you can have a two-way conversation that, if you're the seller, is really focused on what the prospect wants, what the buyer wants, what they're looking for, you're much more likely to get the engagement you want,” says Matt about the nuances of conversational marketing.We chat about Matt’s podcast and how it has helped his business, as well as:
The nuances of conversational marketing
How sales and marketing have changed post-pandemic
What’s keeping him optimistic about the future of marketing
How a clear, concise, and informal message can boost your marketing results
And more

Jul 22, 2020 • 21min
Morris Sims | Changing With The Times— The Sales Process Post-Pandemic
On this week’s episode of Conversational Selling, we speak with special guest Morris Sims. Morris had a fantastic career at New York Life Insurance, eventually becoming the Chief Learning Officer for sales, and heading a training department responsible for training over 80,000 agents and managers. He has since gone on to become an instructor at The American College and President of Sims Training and Consulting.“In my opinion, the real impact is on how we communicate with one another. Sitting across the table from each other probably isn't gonna happen as much as it did once, in the olden days, prior to COVID-19, but the sales process itself has not changed, in my opinion. We still have to approach people, we still have to help them figure out what it is they want and need, and then show them solutions for that and help them make a decision. That's the sales process— it always has been and always will be,” says Morris about the pandemic’s impact on the sales process.We chat about the pandemic’s impact on the sales process, as well as:
His insights on sales training
What elements make a salesperson effective
The future of selling and what makes him optimistic
The importance of asking questions, and what kinds of questions a salesperson should ask

Jul 22, 2020 • 9min
More Leads and Sales With Conversational Selling
Lead generation and sales have changed dramatically in recent years.But cold calling – which many people in sales avoid with a passion – is an “old school” tactic that still works – albeit with a new approach. This isn’t the cold calling you remember. And if you’re not using it, you could be missing out.I created the Conversational Selling podcast to spread the word that outbound prospecting and cold calling should be an integral part of your sales process – and how to do it effectively, following a proven strategy I’ve developed that I call “conversational selling.” In an era of technology seemingly taking over everything, including marketing and sales, automation, while a valuable tool in many ways, can’t replace genuine human conversation. Essentially, how you talk to people, one-on-one, is critical. Scripts have their place in this process. But not in the way you might expect. And that’s just the beginning…I’ve created an outbound prospecting system that fills pipelines with qualified prospects for my clients’ inside sales teams. After all, marketing can’t ever succeed without the right prospecting. And even the best sales and marketing tactics in the world won’t work if they’re presented to the wrong audience. In each episode, I’ll be bringing you respected sales experts and thought leaders to highlight proven strategies for identifying the right prospects for your business, creating a compelling offer, and closing the deal. In upcoming episodes, you’ll meet…
A veteran sales leader and trainer who explains how the core of the sales process remains the same, even as technology advances… what traits to look for when hiring salespeople
An author, speaker, and expert marketer reveals his unconventional method for conversational marketing
And that’s just the start


