
Life and Books and Everything
Life and Books and Everything is a podcast hosted by Kevin DeYoung where discussions center on, well, life and books and everything. As a church pastor and theology professor, Kevin loves to talk about faith, theology, history, current events, and the occasional hot topic. Listen in and we hope you will learn something, laugh a little, and get some good book recommendations along the way.
Latest episodes

Oct 28, 2020 • 1h 6min
The Trinity and Evangelicalism, with Dr. Scott Swain
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Dr. Scott Swain—Professor of Systematic Theology at Reformed Theological Seminary—joins Kevin, Justin, and Collin to discuss his book, The Trinity: An Introduction. Listen in to hear about recent controversies surrounding the doctrine of the trinity, if the Holy Spirit is indeed forgotten in our discussions about the trinity, why analogies for the trinity are unhelpful, and why Orlando is the most magical place on earth.
This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway. The Crossway book we want to highlight this week is Covenant Theology: Biblical, Theological, and Historical Perspectives by the faculty at Reformed Theological Seminary. Join a host of twenty-six scholars, including O. Palmer Robertson, Michael J. Kruger, and Scott R. Swain, as they explore how the concept of covenant is clearly taught in Scripture and how it lays the foundation for other doctrines of salvation.
LBE is also excited to announce that listeners of the show can receive 30% off Crossway books, bibles, tracts, audiobooks, and ebooks by signing up for a free Crossway+ membership. Crossway+ is a new membership program designed to provide you with gospel-centered resources aimed at strengthening your faith and serving the church. Registering for a free Crossway+ membership makes it more convenient and affordable than ever to purchase directly from Crossway.
Timestamps:
Who is Scott Swain and why is Orlando the greatest and most magical place on earth? [0:00 - 8:40]
Analogies and the trinity [8:40 - 12:10]
20th Century evangelicalism and the doctrine of the trinity [12:10 - 20:45]
What is biblicism? [20:45 - 23:53]
Relations of origin and the persons of the trinity [23:53 - 29:30]
Why we should reject social trinitarianism [29:30 - 31:31]Is it true that we often forget the Holy Spirit in our discussions of the trinity? [31:31 - 34:55]
The work of the Holy Spirit and revivalistic-charismatic movements [34:55 - 38:21]
A tool-kit of systematic theology categories and terms [38:21 - 49:12]
The drama behind the filioque [49:12 - 50:50]
How should pastors communicate these orthodox categories to their congregations? [50:50 - 57:35]
Resources on the Doctrine of the Trinity:
St. Patrick's Bad Analogies
The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything by Fred Sanders
The Wonderful Works of God by Herman Bavinck
The Essential Trinity: New Testament Foundations and Practical Relevance by Carl Trueman and Brandon Crowe
On God and Christ: The Five Theological Orations by Gregory of Nazianzus

Oct 21, 2020 • 1h 7min
Why Christians Should Be More Involved with Politics, with Jeff McAlvey
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Jeff McAlvey joins Kevin and Justin to discuss the Christian’s role in politics. Jeff worked closely with Michigan Governor John Engler in the 90s, oversaw the state appropriations process when Governor Engler was the Senate Majority Leader, and started a lobbying group after his time in Washington DC. Listen in as Kevin, Justin, and Jeff unravel some of the misconceptions around politics in America and offer advice on how church members can love their neighbors and be more politically involved in their local communities.
This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway. The Crossway book we want to highlight this week is, When the Stars Disappear: Help and Hope from Stories of Suffering in Scripture (Suffering and the Christian Life, Volume 1) by Mark Talbot. When the Starts Disappear engages the topic of suffering, not only through Reformed theological and philosophical insights but with profound biblical reflection and personal experience through the author himself.
Book recommendations
Kevin:
God's Design for the Church: A Guide for African Pastors and Ministry Leaders by Conrad Mbewe
Lost in Thought: The Hidden Pleasures of an Intellectual Life by Zena Hitz
Jesus and the Forces of Death: The Gospels' Portrayal of Ritual Impurity within First-Century Judaism by Matthew Thiessen
Ten Global Trends Every Smart Person Should Know: And Many Others You Will Find Interesting by Ronald Baily and Marian Tupy
Justin:
What It Means to Be Human: The Case for the Body in Public Bioethics by O. Carter Snead
Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race by Thomas Chatterton Williams
Jeff:
Absolute Surrender by Andrew Murray

Oct 7, 2020 • 1h 19min
Team Compassion vs. Team Courage
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Kevin, Justin, and Collin are back together to discuss some of the more pressing issues facing the church today: sexual misconduct and allegations, this time concerning the late Ravi Zacharias, friendless pastors, the curse of fame, dangers facing the church from “the Right” and “the Left,” and helpful books for forming one’s political philosophy.
This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway. The Crossway titles we want to highlight in this episode are the ESV Scripture Journals (Illuminated Scripture Journals and the Greek Scripture Journal ). Bible readers can take extended notes or record insights and prayers directly beside corresponding passages of Scripture
These thin, portable, long-lasting notebooks are great for personal Bible reading and reflection, small-group study, or taking notes through a sermon series.
Timestamps:
Our attempts at journaling [0:00 - 10:34]
The sexual misconduct and allegations of Ravi Zacharius [10:34 - 37:10]
Agreeing and disagreeing on the dangers facing Reformed(ish) Evangelicalism [37:10 - 1:01:14]Books to help inform a political philosophy [1:01:14 - 1:18:33]
Booklists:
Justin:
The Contested Public Square: The Crisis of Christianity and Politics by Greg Forster
Political Visions & Illusions: A Survey & Christian Critique of Contemporary Ideologies by David T. Koyzis
A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles by Thomas Sowell
Kevin:
The Great Debate: Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine, and the Birth of Right and Left by Yuval Levin
Christ and the Kingdoms of Men: Foundations of Political Life by David C. Innes
The Federalist Papers
Collin:
Them: Why We Hate Each Other--and How to Heal by Ben Sasse

Sep 30, 2020 • 1h 9min
'Bavinck: A Critical Biography,' with Dr. James Eglinton
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Dr. James Eglinton joins Kevin to discuss his latest work, Bavinck: A Critical Biography. Listen in for a fascinating look at the history of the modern Reformed tradition as told through the story of one of its greatest theologians, Herman Bavinck. Topics include Bavinck's Dutch Calvinistic context, his desire to apply Reformed orthodoxy to modern dilemmas, his association with the women's rights movement, if Bavinck was an evangelical, and his children and grandchildren's involvement in the Nazi resistance. This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway. The Crossway title we want to highlight in this episode is Concise Theology by J. I Packer. Theology is important for the Christian life. And though it is marked by many complex terms and doctrines, there is yet what J. I. Packer calls “the permanent essentials of Christianity.” This concise introduction to these essential doctrines distills theological truths so both scholar and layperson alike can grow to treasure the unchanging pillars of the Christian faith.
Resources mentioned:
Bavinck: A Critical Biography by James Eglinton - 40% off HERE
Reformed Dogmatics (4 Volume Set) by Herman Bavinck
The History of Scottish Theology, Volume I: Celtic Origins to Reformed Orthodoxy by David Fergusson and Mark Elliot

Sep 23, 2020 • 1h 11min
The Religious Fervor of American Politics
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Kevin, Collin, and Justin discuss the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her vacant seat on the Supreme Court, Classic liberalism and its critics, which books were most formative in their youth, and what career they each would have chosen if not for the ones they are in now.
This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway. The Crossway title we want to highlight in this episode is the ESV Every Day Bible: 365 Readings through the Whole Bible. This bible was designed from the ground up to be an inviting daily-reading Bible, to help readers achieve their goal of reading through the Bible in a year. Formative books in our youth:
Kevin:
Know What You Believe by Paul Little
Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin
The Puritans: Their Origins and Successors by Martin Lloyd-Jones
God in the Wasteland: The Reality of Truth in a World of Fading Dreams by David Wells
No Place for Truth: or Whatever Happened to Evangelical Theology? by David Wells
Losing Our Virtue: Why the Church Must Recover Its Moral Vision by David Wells
Collin:
Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Biblical Doctrine by Wayne Grudem
Jonathan Edwards: A Life by George Marsden
The Cost of Discipleship by Bonhoeffer
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism by Carl Henry
Justin:

Sep 16, 2020 • 1h 8min
We Are in the Time of Judges, Not Revival
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Kevin, Collin, and Justin discuss the writing process, how things have exponentially changed in the online Christian writing space, what books have most recently moved them, which pastor biographies are their favorite, and what message the church needs to hear most in 2020. And if nuanced discussions on culture, books, and theology don't quite do it for you, be sure to tune in to hear the guys give their best Chris Farley impressions.
This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway, a publisher whose goal is to publish gospel-centered, Bible-centered content that will honor our Savior and serve his Church. The Crossway title we want to highlight in this episode is Lead: 12 Gospel Principles for Leadership in the Church by Paul David Tripp. For every celebrity pastor exiting the ministry in the spotlight, there are many more lesser-known pastors leaving in the shadows. Tripp draws on his decades of ministry experience to give churches twelve gospel principles necessary to combat this leadership crisis. Each of these principles, built upon characteristics such as humility, dependency, and accountability, will enable new and experienced leaders alike to focus their attention on the ultimate leadership model: the gospel.
Timestamps:
What did you do on Labor Day? | Crossway sponsorship: Lead by Paul David Tripp [0:00 - 11:48] - https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/podcasts/gospelbound/leaders-who-wont-flame-out/
Changes in Online Christian Writing [11:48 - 38:46]
What is the last book that moved you? [38:46 - 54:05]Collin's books:
Lead: 12 Gospel Principles for Leadership in the Church by Paul David Tripp
How to Talk about Jesus (Without Being That Guy): Personal Evangelism in a Skeptical World by Sam Chan
Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow
Kevin's books:
The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race In America by Shelby Steele
Churchill: Walking with Destiny by Andrew Roberts
Justin's books:
Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund
The chapter on Adoption in

Sep 9, 2020 • 54min
4 Questions for Divisive Topics
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Kevin shares four questions to ask regarding the most divisive topics in the church today: voting, police shootings, and Coronavirus.
Kevin also shares 4 book recommendations of some of the most recent and enjoyable titles he has read through.
This episode is sponsored by Crossway, a publisher whose goal is to publish gospel-centered, Bible-centered content that will honor our Savior and serve his Church. The Crossway title we want to highlight in this episode is Unfolding Grace: 40 Guided Readings through the Bible; discover the overarching storyline of God's Word as it is revealed through forty Scripture readings drawn from key points in the biblical narrative. Each passage, coupled with brief and accessible commentary, will help you follow God's grace as it unfolds from Genesis through Revelation. Unfolding Grace includes 40 illustrations by Peter Voth, excerpts discussing the flow of God’s plan of redemption, a single-column format, a smyth-sewn binding, and a Study guide.Timestamps:Introduction + 4 book recommendations [0:00 - 22:31]
Books mentioned:The American Dream Is Not Dead: (But Populism Could Kill It) by Michael Strain
The Morality of Laughter by F. H. Buckley
The Myth of Disenchantment: Magic, Modernity, and the Birth of the Human Sciences by Jason A. Josephson Storm
J. Gresham Machen: A Biographical Memoir by Ned B. Stonehouse - cover done by Marina Amaral
4 questions to ask when discussing voting [22:31 - 34:52]4 questions to ask when discussing police shootings [34:52 - 42:05]
4 questions to ask when discussing the Coronavirus [42:05 - 54:25]

Sep 2, 2020 • 1h 5min
Discerning My Vocation, with Dr. Julius Kim
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Kevin DeYoung, Collin Hansen, and Justin Taylor are joined by Dr. Julius Kim—President of The Gospel Coalition—to discuss each other’s seminary experiences, issues in evangelicalism, how to discern one’s vocational calling, how to be a better preacher, and, last but not least, which books have been most influential in the life and ministry of Dr. Kim.
This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway, a publisher whose goal is to publish gospel-centered, Bible-centered content that will honor our Savior and serve his Church. The Crossway title we want to highlight in this episode is, Weep With Me: How Lament Opens a Door for Racial Reconciliation by Mark Vroegop, with contributions by Thabiti Anyabwile, Trillia Newbell, Jarvis Williams, John Onwuchekwa, Collin Hansen, Mika Edmondson, and more. In an effort to bridge the canyon of misunderstanding, insensitivity, and hurt, Mark Vroegop writes about the practice of lament. Vroegop invites readers to mourn with him over the brokenness that has caused division and to use lament to begin the journey toward a diverse and united church. Pick up your copy of Weep With Me by Mark Vroegop today.Timestamps:
Weep With Me: How Lament Opens a Door for Racial Reconciliation by Mark Vroegop [0:00 - 1:43]
Where we went to seminary and the different branches in evangelicalism [1:43 - 27:58]
Wrestling with my vocational calling [27:58 - 39:38]
How to become a better preacher [39:38 - 52:10]
What books most influenced Julius Kim over the years and what he is reading now [52:10 - 58:07]
Julius Kim’s prior wedding band career [58:07 - 1:06:38]Books and authors that have influenced Julius Kim:
Knowing God by J. I. PackerHow Should We Then Live?: The Rise and Decline of Western Thought and Culture by Francis ShaefferInstitutes of the Christian Religion by John CalvinInstitutes of Elenctic Theology (3 Volume Set) by Francis TurretinThe Heart of a Servant Leader: Letters from Jack Miller by John C. MillerInfluenced by Ed Clowney, Henri Nouwen, and Eugene Peterson.Books that Julius Kim is reading right now:
Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow

Aug 26, 2020 • 1h 10min
Tears Do Not Equal Repentance
In this episode of Life and Books and Everything, Kevin, Collin, and Justin discuss the recent scandal involving Jerry Falwell Jr. and the difference between a therapeutic confession and one that admits guilt and sin, what habits of rest and recreation they practice, what their favorite biblical commentaries are, and lastly, they discuss Samuel James's article, "Which Enemy? Which Doorstep?" This episode of Life and Books and Everything is brought to you by Crossway. A specific book from Crossway we would like to highlight for our listeners is Family Discipleship: Leading Your Home through Time, Moments, and Milestones by Matt Chandler and Adam Griffin. In this book, Matt Chandler and Adam Griffin help families develop a sustainable rhythm of gospel-centered discipleship through a guided framework focusing on moments of discipleship in 3 key areas: time, moments, and milestones. Each section provides parents with Scriptures to consider, questions to answer, structures to implement, and ideas to try out.Timestamps:Book giveaway winner announcement! [0:00 - 3:10]
The Jerry Falwell Jr. Scandal [3:10 - 15:55]
Habits of rest, recreation, and sabbath [15:55 - 36:50]
Favorite Commentaries [36:50 - 59:48]
Multi-Directional Leadership [59:48 - 1:10:08] Book recommendations Collin's favorite commentaries + other resources mentioned:
New Testament Commentary Survey by D. A. Carson
The Letter to the Romans (New International Commentary on the New Testament (NICNT)) by Douglas Moo
ESV Study Bible by Crossway
Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament by D. A. Carson and G. K. Beale
Blind Spots: Becoming a Courageous, Compassionate, and Commissioned Church by Collin HansenKevin's favorite commentaries:
Introducing the Old Testament: A Short Guide to Its History and Message by Tremper Longman
The Gospel according to John (The Pillar New Testament Commentary (PNTC)) by D. A. Carson
The Pillar New Testament Commentary (14 Volumes) from

Aug 19, 2020 • 1h 12min
Whom Am I Risking For?
Season 2 of Life and Books and Everything is here! Kevin DeYoung, Justin Taylor, and Collin Hansen sit down together to discuss their summer reading lists, how to balance the need for safety and the need to trust God's sovereignty in the pandemic, Grace Community Church and their choice to gather indoors for services in California, and should the Big 10 have canceled?This episode is brought to you by Crossway. As Kevin says on this episode, "There are lots of Christian publishers, but with Crossway, you know that you have men and women working there who care very much about the content about the truth of God's word, not just selling books—every book publisher has to sell some books but—more importantly, they want to edify and build up the church."
In particular, we want to highlight the book by Dane Ortlund, 'Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers.' Some say that, "this book is like J. I. Packer's Knowing God," others say, "this is the best book I've read in a decade." There is lots of high praise for Gentle and Lowly, by Dane Ortlund, so please check it out.
Timestamps:
Introduction + Book Giveaway Announcement with Crossway [0:00 - 4:50]
Summer Reading [4:50 - 29:47]
Collin's summer reading: The Future of Christian Marriage by Mark Regnerus
Spying on the South: An Odyssey Across the American Divide by Tony Horwitz
The Minutemen and Their World by Robert A. Gross
Lead: 12 Gospel Principles for Leadership in the Church by Paull David Tripp
Justin's summer reading:
Confederates in the Attic: Dispatches from the Unfinished Civil War by Tony Horwitz
Redeeming the Great Emancipator by Allen C. Guelzo
Reconstruction: A Very Short Introduction by Allen C. Guelzo Midnight Rising: John Brown and the Raid That Sparked the Civil War by Tony Horwitz
The Panic Virus: The True Story Behind the Vaccine-Autism Controversy by Seth Mnookin
Kevin's summer reading:
Pale Rider: The Spanish Flu of 1918 and How It Changed the World by Laura Spinney
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