
Meikles & Dimes
Meikles & Dimes is a podcast dedicated to the simple, practical, and underappreciated. Monologue episodes cover science-based topics in decision-making, health, communication, negotiation, and performance psychology. Interview episodes, called Layer 2 episodes, include guests from business, academia, health care, journalism, engineering, and athletics.
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Apr 8, 2024 • 10min
131: Modupe Akinola | Stop Passing Your Stress on to Everyone Else
Modupe Akinola is a business professor at Columbia Business School, and coach to Chris Hemsworth in the documentary Limitless. Prior to pursuing a career in academia, Modupe worked at Bain & Company and Merrill Lynch.
Modupe examines how organizational environments- characterized by deadlines, multi-tasking, and other attributes such as having low status- can engender stress, and how this stress can have spill-over effects on performance.
Her work has been covered in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, National Public Radio, WIRED, Scientific American, Forbes, The Economist, and The Huffington Post.
Modupe earned her undergraduate degree, MBA, and PhD from Harvard.
In this episode we discuss the following:
We have so much control over how we experience life, and it's within our control to find ways to manage stress so that it doesn’t negatively affect others.
If you’re feeling stressed, do a stress check on yourself to see how you can change and dial down that stress in a way that isn't contagious so that other people don't have a terrible day because you are having a bad one.
If Modupe snaps at herself or someone else, she pauses and asks herself, “What’s going on?” That often helps her realize why she’s stressed so that she can deal with it.
If you are stressed, pause, figure out why, and then ask yourself, “What do I need right now?”
Modupe learned a simple phrase that has improved her relationship with her Mom when she’s stressed: “I’m busy right now, Mom, but I’ll call you this weekend.”
Working as Chris Hemsworth’s stress coach reinforced for Modupe that everyone has stress, regardless of their fame or success.
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Apr 1, 2024 • 13min
130: Home Depot CEO Frank Blake on the Power of Recognition and Storytelling
Frank Blake is the former CEO and Chairman of Home Depot, where he led a massive company turn around during his tenure. Frank’s other leadership positions include serving as board member at Delta, general counsel at GE, general counsel for the EPA, deputy secretary for the U.S. Department of Energy, deputy counsel to Vice President George H. W. Bush, and law clerk for Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.
Frank earned an undergraduate degree from Harvard and a law degree from Columbia.
In this episode we discuss the following:
The single most underappreciated tool that leaders have is the recognition and gratitude they can express to people working for them, and doing it in a way that is memorable for the people who are recognized and celebrated.
Frank recognized people by bringing them up on stage and telling stories about them that demonstrated great customer service.
Frank recognized people by writing 200 handwritten personal notes every Sunday, thanking them for specific things they had done.
Just as kids will root for athletes who take the time to sign autographs, Frank generated support from his team by writing them personal letters of recognition.
Every business leader knows the phrase, “You get what you measure.” Frank’s corollary is, "You get what you recognize and celebrate."
If I say to someone, “I want you to provide great customer service” that sort of vaporizes instantaneously. But if I share a story of great customer service, everyone understands it and can apply it.
When you tell a story that illustrates great customer service, people start talking about the behaviors they're doing that are similar, and the behavior gets reinforced and you get real momentum in the organization.
More often than not, leaders are unintentional and undisciplined about how they recognize and celebrate their employees.
Frank learned the power of recognition when he worked for George H. W. Bush. As VP, George started every day by spending an hour typing out personal notes. As a staff member, when Frank got a note from the VP, he felt like he walked on air.
You can surprise people by thanking them and doing it in a specific way.
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Website: https://crazygoodturns.org/blog
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Mar 25, 2024 • 13min
129: Laurie Santos | How To Improve Our Happiness
Laurie Santos is the teacher of the most popular class in Yale’s history, Psychology and The Good Life. She is the host of “The Happiness Lab” podcast, which has been downloaded more than 85 million times, and she is the creator of The Science of Well-Being on Coursera, which has more than four million enrollees.
Her work has been featured in the New York Times, NBC Nightly News, The Today Show, GQ Magazine, Slate and O! Magazine, among others, and Time Magazine named her a “Leading Campus Celebrity.”
In this episode we discuss the following:
We are not our thoughts, and we can change our thoughts. The way we think can affect our behavior in ways that we don't really expect.
Rather than yell at ourselves like a drill Sergeant to motivate ourselves, it can be more effective to practice self-compassion by talking to ourselves like we would talk to our friend.
To improve our happiness, we need to invest in social connection. Not only does investing in social connection make us happier, it makes us happier than we expect it will.
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Website: https://www.drlauriesantos.com/
Podcast: https://www.drlauriesantos.com/happiness-lab-podcast
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Mar 18, 2024 • 2h 58min
128: Brent Dunn | Writer, Volcano Hunter, & LSAT Instructor (Part 2)
Brent Dunn is an exceptional teacher, who has taught more than 6,000 students how to “Ace” the LSAT. During his 27 years of teaching, his students’ average score is above the 90th percentile.
In addition to teaching people how to be smarter, Brent teaches spin classes and pottery. He also made his own (and his daughter's) wedding cakes, has biked around Iceland, collected all of the original set of Pokemon in Pokemon Go, drove a Zamboni, and poked sticks into flowing lava. He is fluent in English, Finnish, and German, with basic proficiency in French, Spanish, Italian, and Icelandic.
Brent is also a writer, and in this second episode with Brent, we discuss the book he is writing, wherein he describes his philosophy on the purpose of life and how to achieve that purpose. I loved his manuscript so much that I gifted it to my wife for Christmas. And I am so grateful that Brent graciously agreed to discuss his book here today, and I’m motivated to be a better person because of his book and this conversation.
In this episode we discuss the following:
For Brent the purpose of life is to experience joy. And he experiences joy when he sees growth in himself or others he loves.
To increase our joy, we can increase our love for others.
Combining these ideas led Brent to an equation: Joy = Growth X Love^2.
Brent’s parting phrase: “I love you! Have fun! Do your best!”
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Website: https://acetestprep.com/
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Mar 11, 2024 • 3h 16min
127: Brent Dunn | Volcano Hunter & LSAT Instructor (Part 1)
Meet Brent Dunn, a volcano hunter and LSAT instructor who has taught thousands of students. Learn about his unique experiences from driving a Zamboni to poking sticks into flowing lava. Discover his journey into reasoning and logic teaching, helping students achieve their dreams.

Mar 10, 2024 • 53min
126: Sundays with Tozer Episode 10 | Tozer Works for GE Astro Space and Then Moves to Idaho Falls
Justin Tozer is a math and science prodigy who grew up on a farm where formal education was all but prohibited. Yet, somehow Tozer would make his way to the world’s most prestigious firms, first in Silicon Valley and later in Los Alamos at the world’s preeminent scientific lab.
Yet no professional accomplishment compares to the countless lives Tozer has saved, changed, and enhanced.
In this episode we discuss the following:
LK99 Superconductor
Tozer going to work for GE Astro Space
Tozer getting recruited to work for the National Lab in Idaho
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Mar 10, 2024 • 1h 6min
125: Sundays with Tozer Episode 9 | Tozer and His Team at IBM Invent MR Technology
Justin Tozer is a math and science prodigy who grew up on a farm where formal education was all but prohibited. Yet, somehow Tozer would make his way to the world’s most prestigious firms, first in Silicon Valley and later in Los Alamos at the world’s preeminent scientific lab.
Yet no professional accomplishment compares to the countless lives Tozer has saved, changed, and enhanced.
In this episode we discuss the following:
How Tozer and his team at IBM invented MR technology
How Tozer is better at talking to a horse than a human
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Mar 10, 2024 • 1h 5min
124: Sundays with Tozer Episode 8 | Tozer Describes Youth He Mentored and Internships He Had
Justin Tozer is a math and science prodigy who grew up on a farm where formal education was all but prohibited. Yet, somehow Tozer would make his way to the world’s most prestigious firms, first in Silicon Valley and later in Los Alamos at the world’s preeminent scientific lab.
Yet no professional accomplishment compares to the countless lives Tozer has saved, changed, and enhanced.
In this episode we discuss the following:
Two specific examples of youth he mentored
The mental rules he uses to manage the stress of mentoring youth
Internships he had while in college
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Mar 4, 2024 • 17min
123: The World’s Longest Study of Happiness | Marc Schulz
Marc Schulz is the associate director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, an 85-year study of individuals and families. He is also the author of The Good Life: Lessons from the World's Longest Scientific Study of Happiness.
Marc earned an undergraduate degree from Amherst College and a Ph.D. from California Berkeley.
In this episode we discuss the following:
The Harvard Study of Adult Development has followed more than 2,000 people spanning more than 85 years. The one finding that stands out above all others: Relationships keep us happier and healthier through our lives.
Relationships help us navigate stress, overcome challenges, deal with emotions, figure out our path, and connect us with our past. Relationships are also where we experience our most joy, and they also predict our health and happiness.
The risk of mortality associated with loneliness is about the same as smoking 15 cigarettes a day.
One of the biggest problems with loneliness is that it’s quite prevalent. In the United States, in a given week, 20-50% of adults report being lonely. Given that loneliness is as damaging to health as smoking 15 cigarettes/day, the surgeon general talks about this is a public health crisis.
In the past, people had to get out of their house to see whether the Jones’s where better off than them. But now we can socially compare ourselves from our phones. And most of us come out of those comparisons feeling worse about ourselves.
By going more virtual and focusing on efficiency we miss out on informal connections, like talking to people in the hallway.
Just as physical fitness is important predictor of health and happiness, so too is social fitness. By thinking about our social lives in terms of what’s working, and then prioritizing our positive social relationships, we can improve our happiness.
When people in their 80s discuss their regrets, most regrets are centered on relationships. For example, losing contact with friends, or not being as kind as they could have been to the people they loved.
Social fitness is all about making time for our friends and loved ones. Eating lunch with them, going on walks with them, or calling them. As the key finding from the 85-year Harvard Study of Adult Development shows, relationships keep us happier and healthier through our lives.
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Website: https://www.brynmawr.edu/inside/people/marc-schulz
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Feb 26, 2024 • 18min
122: Andy Reid on Leadership
Andy Reid's leadership qualities are praised by his star players, who credit him for their success. From lessons learned from role models to staying calm under pressure, Andy's leadership style is discussed. The importance of honesty, trust, consistency, and genuine care for players is highlighted as key factors in effective leadership.