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Between Worlds

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Nov 3, 2024 • 53min

Tom Chatfield on philosophy, analytical thinking and how humans have co-evolved with technology

For Tom Chatfield, a British technology philosopher and author, there is nothing inevitable about technological progress. In his latest book, ‘Wise Animals: How Technology Has Made Us What We Are’ he explores how humans have co-evolved with technology throughout history. In our discussion, Tom deconstructed the common narrative of technological inevitability, using examples like the Incas' use of wheels only as toys and the complex history of Gutenberg's printing press to illustrate how technological adoption is deeply intertwined with cultural values and societal choices rather than following a predetermined path.
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Oct 14, 2024 • 27min

Yao Morin on trust, AI world models and the future of commercial property

On a recent trip to Toronto, I caught up with Yao Morin, the global CTO of JLL, a commercial real estate company. We discussed JLL's early adoption of generative AI technology, despite the real estate industry's traditionally conservative approach to new technologies. Yao explained how JLL has implemented AI tools like JLLGPT to process vast amounts of unstructured data in multiple languages, making it easier for employees to access and utilize information from contracts, research reports, and other documents.
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Oct 8, 2024 • 41min

Von Wolfe On Redefining Art in the Age of Machine Intelligence

Ahead of the London Frieze Art Fair, I spoke with one of the world’s most fascinating artists, Von Wolfe, who for a number of years now has explored the intersection of art, technology, and artificial intelligence. As we sat in his studio in front of an oversized oil canvas and a sophisticated technology stack, Von Wolfe shared with me his unique approach to using machine learning and generative AI to create art. Our conversation delved into the history of art, from Renaissance masters to contemporary AI-powered creations, drawing parallels between traditional artistic methods and modern technological approaches.
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Jul 29, 2024 • 34min

Tim Fu on how AI is reshaping architecture

Tim Fu, founder of Studio Tim Fu and a former Zaha Hadid Architects collaborator, dives into how AI is reshaping architecture. He discusses the exciting potential of tools like mid-journey in architectural aesthetics and the balance of form and function through parametricism. Fu highlights the challenges of validating intricate AI-generated designs and emphasizes the vital role architects play beyond aesthetics. He also explores the rapid evolution of client interactions, underscoring the importance of innovative thinking amidst the AI revolution.
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Jun 22, 2024 • 39min

Matt Barrie on the AI-powered future of global talent

How will AI change jobs? There are a lot of theories, and as of yet, scant conclusive evidence. However, if you did have to pick a 'canary in a coal mine' to understand the impact of generative AI on the future of work, one place to start would be the global freelance workforce. To understand how  machine intelligence might be influencing how freelancers get things done, I spoke with Matt Barrie, CEO of Freelancer.com, one of the world's leading online job marketplaces.
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Jun 15, 2024 • 23min

Virginia Damtsa on the influence of AI and technology on contemporary art

We are familiar with the rise of AI generated art, but what impact will these emerging technologies having on more traditional forms of artistic expression? To explore that question, I spoke with Virginia Damtsa, a renowned curator of contemporary art, who has worked with everyone from Peter Gabriel to Ai Weiwei, Cornelia Parker, Olafur Eliasson, Annette Messager and others.
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May 8, 2024 • 35min

Marco Bertini On AI and the future of dynamic pricing

On a recent visit to Barcelona, I sat down with Marco Bertini, one of the world’s foremost experts on dynamic pricing. Bertini is a professor of marketing at Esade University and the author of the book, ‘The Ends Game: How Smart Companies Stop Selling Products and Start Delivering Value,’ which examines how technology and society stimulate accountability, prompting companies to profit from the outcomes they deliver rather than the offerings they bring to market.
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Apr 28, 2024 • 40min

Ben Waber on why LLMs are not a silver bullet for boosting organizational innovation

Ben Waber is one of the world’s leading experts on people analytics and organizational culture. He is the founder of Humanyze and a professor at MIT. We caught up in Tokyo to discuss the future of work and the impact of large language models (LLMs) on productivity.
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Apr 20, 2024 • 39min

Pierre-Yves Calloc'h on AI-driven transformation and the future of consumer engagement

I sat down with Pierre-Yves Calloc'h, Chief Digital Officer at Pernod Ricard, to discuss the company's journey in embracing AI, algorithms and automation to drive marketing effectiveness, sales performance, and consumer engagement. Pernod Ricard, known for its extensive portfolio of brands such as Absolut Vodka, Jameson, and Ballantine's, has been at the forefront of leveraging AI to make data-driven decisions and personalize consumer experiences.
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Apr 14, 2024 • 37min

Byron Reese on emergence, superorganisms and our co-evolution with AI.

Byron Reese, an acclaimed author, futurist, and entrepreneur, dives into the fascinating concept of 'Agora,' likening it to a superorganism formed by human interactions. He explores how our interconnectedness mirrors the complex systems seen in nature, such as beehives. The conversation touches on humanity's co-evolution with AI, emphasizing its role in amplifying our capabilities. Reese also reflects on the balance between individual agency and societal conformity, advocating for kindness as crucial for a healthy society. He underscores the importance of physical spaces in shaping collective knowledge.

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