
The Liturgists Podcast
An artful, mind-expanding, heart-opening, genre-bending exploration of how to live a life full of more love and less suffering.
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Feb 6, 2020 • 44min
Does Being Good Mean My Beliefs Shouldn't Change?
Feeling shame and guilt when our beliefs change can be overwhelming. Our relationships with family, friends, and partners can seem to pivot solely on a shared understanding of what we believe. When our beliefs change we may fear that if people find out, they will not approve, or worse, they might abandon us. We may also feel anxious about not knowing what we believe and uncertain about where we are headed.
Is changing what we think bad, or is it just a natural part of growth? In this episode, Michael Gungor and Dr. Hillary McBride talk about belief, change, and why we should embrace healthy growth.
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Feb 6, 2020 • 11min
The Tuskegee Airmen
A group of African-American military fighters and bomber pilots who fought in World War II. They formed the 332nd fighter group and 447th bombardment group of the United States Army Air Forces. Their sacrifice was often met with very little support when they came home as they were still subject to disrespect and Jim Crow laws across the United States. Let's talk about The Tuskegee Airmen.
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Feb 5, 2020 • 13min
Reconstruction
The Reconstruction era lasted from 1865 to 1877 following The American Civil War. It represents the failed transformation of the eleven former states of The Confederate States of America. Three new constitutional amendments ostensibly guaranteed newly freed slaves citizenship with civil rights while aiming to end the remnants of Confederate secession. However, three visions of the war appeared: the reconciliationist vision, the white supremacist vision, and the emancipationist vision. Let's talk about Reconstruction.
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Feb 4, 2020 • 10min
The American Civil War
Took place from 1861 to 1865 and was the deadliest war in American history. The ware was fought between the northern United States which was loyal to the Union and the southern United States which seceded from the Union to form The Confederate States of America. The war began primarily because of a long-standing controversy over the enslavement of black people. Let's talk about The American Civil War.
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Feb 3, 2020 • 9min
Sojourner Truth
An American abolitionist and women's rights activist. Truth was born into slavery in Swartekill, Ulster County, New York, but escaped with her infant daughter to freedom in 1826. Let's talk about Sojourner Truth.
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Feb 2, 2020 • 6min
Frederick Douglass
An American social reformer, abolitionist, orator, writer, and statesman. After escaping from slavery in Maryland, he became a national leader of the abolitionist movement in Massachusetts and New York, gaining note for his oratory and incisive antislavery writings. Let's talk about Frederick Douglass.
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Feb 1, 2020 • 5min
Harriet Tubman
As an American activist, abolitionist, and the most famous "conductor" on the Underground Railroad, she rescued around 70 people from slavery. Let's talk about Harriet Tubman.
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Jan 30, 2020 • 34min
Is All History White History?
History is literally a story we tell ourselves about what happened in the past. The way we tell that story is usually influenced by the people who have cultural and political power. We heard from so many of you from around the world about how whiteness affects our perception of history. In this episode Andre Henry, Propaganda, and Nikki Blak join William Matthews to talk about those influential dynamics.
They discuss how we can help others and ourselves by viewing history from several vantage points. We can look into our past to understand ourselves better and use empathy to see the richness other people's stories bring to the tapestry of history.
During the month of February we will be releasing a very special project called "Black History Is American History" via daily episodes covering heroes, icons, and titans in American history. We will release them every day on a separate feed you can sign up for and to our members via the member feed. Find out more by going to theliturgists.com/blackhistory
You can also join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.

Jan 23, 2020 • 47min
Am I Impure?
Purity culture represents the main narrative around sex education and relationships for many people. It taught us ideas about ourselves and about other people that we often feel like we can't leave behind. In today's episode, Hillary and Michael are joined by Linda Kay Klein as they discuss purity culture and pull apart a story we may tell ourselves: "I am impure."
Linda is the author of the book Pure, which covers the sexual purity movement in the evangelical church and the "purity industry" that formed along with it. Her interviews and stories outline the resulting anxiety, fear, and experiences that trap people in a cycle of shame. Sexual shame is not confined to evangelical culture and Linda's book serves as a powerful wake-up call about our society’s subjugation of women.
This episode does cover traumatic experiences. We want to offer a content warning as well as suggest some mental health resources for you to use. Speaking with a professional, licensed therapist is a way to work through trauma in a way that is safe and "become stronger at the broken places." You are not alone.
You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
Resources:
https://www.breakfreetogether.org
https://aedpinstitute.org/find-an-aedp-institute-therapist/search/
https://directory.traumahealing.org
https://www.emdria.org/search/
https://lifespanintegration.com/directory/
https://www.sensorimotorpsychotherapy.org/directory.html
https://sstarnet.org/find-a-therapist/

Dec 19, 2019 • 55min
Swapping Fundamentalisms
Sometimes we leave one set of problems only to find ourselves in a new situation with the same problems. In this episode, Michael and Hillary speak with Emily Capshaw about her experience of leaving Christianity only to find some of the same problems in other belief systems. They talk candidly about how to avoid swapping one fundamentalism for another.
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