
The Liturgists Podcast
An artful, mind-expanding, heart-opening, genre-bending exploration of how to live a life full of more love and less suffering.
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Jul 25, 2019 • 50min
Dealing with Loneliness - Live from Wild Goose
Science Mike, Michael Gungor, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride discuss the modern epidemic of loneliness, and how to respond to it in an episode recorded in front of a live audience at the Wild Goose Festival 2019.
We've got HUGE NEWS about our Tabs & Wafers tour: We're offering FREE TICKETS in all remaining cities in order to make our events more economically accessible. Plus, we're finally telling you the event actually is. You can learn more here. See you soon, Minneapolis, Chicago, Los Angeles, Tempe, San Francisco, Dallas, Houston, and Austin.

Jul 11, 2019 • 1h 7min
Prayer
This episode is about prayer. What is prayer? What value, if any, does prayer have for people who don't believe in a theistic God anymore?
Science Mike and Michael Gungor are on tour and headed to a city near you.

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Jun 20, 2019 • 50min
Pro-life, Pro-choice (Re-Release) with Rachel Held Evans
Alabama recently approved a measure that would outlaw almost all abortions in the state, setting up a challenge to Roe v. Wade, the case that recognized a woman's constitutional right to end a pregnancy. Few issues are more divisive than abortion. Few topics push on our most fundamental ideas about life, personhood, and morality. Back in 2015, Rachel Held Evans, Science Mike, and Michael Gungor take a look a simple, controversial question: Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
For more information on Rachel Held Evans’ work, and to learn how to support her family following her tragic passing, visit rachelheldevans.com
You can get a free copy of one of Rachel’s audiobooks on Audible by signing up for a free trial Here.

May 21, 2019 • 1h 9min
Episode 100
In celebration of our 100th episode, we take a look at where the podcast has been while looking forward to what's next. Thank you to all of you who've listened and contributed over the years.
Michael Gungor and Science Mike are going on tour in an event called Tabs & Wafers. Learn more.

May 2, 2019 • 41min
The God Question
In this episode, Michael Gungor asks leading theologians, scholars, teachers two questions: “Does God exist,” and “Who or what is God?”Guests on this episode include, Richard Rohr, Diana Butler Bass, Amy-Jill Levine, Sharon Salzberg, Reza Aslan, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride.
Fr. Richard Rohr is a globally recognized ecumenical teacher bearing witness to the universal awakening within Christian mysticism and the Perennial Tradition. He is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Diana Butler Bass is an author, speaker, and independent scholar specializing in American religion and culture. She holds a Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University and is the award-winning author of ten books, including Grounded: Finding God in the World —A Spiritual Revolution.
Amy-Jill Levine is University Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies, Mary Jane Werthan Professor of Jewish Studies, and Professor of New Testament Studies at Vanderbilt Divinity School and College of Arts and Science; she is also Affiliated Professor, Centre for the Study of Jewish-Christian Relations, Cambridge UK. Her books include The Misunderstood Jew: The Church and the Scandal of the Jewish Jesus; The Meaning of the Bible: What the Jewish Scriptures and the Christian Old Testament Can Teach Us (co-authored with Douglas Knight); The New Testament, Methods and Meanings (co-authored with Warren Carter), and the thirteen-volume edited Feminist Companions to the New Testament and Early Christian Writing.
Sharon Salzberg is a central figure in the field of meditation, a world-renowned teacher and NY Times bestselling author. She has played a crucial role in bringing meditation and mindfulness practices to the West and into mainstream culture since 1974, when she first began teaching. She is the co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA and the author of ten books including NY Times bestseller.
Reza Aslan is an internationally renowned writer, commentator, professor, producer, and scholar of religions. His books, including his #1 New York Times Bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, have been translated into dozens of languages around the world. He is also a recipient of the prestigious James Joyce Award.

Apr 16, 2019 • 1h 9min
THIS
Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride talk with Michael Gungor about his newest book, THIS. As Michael shares, letting go of the stories that defined his identity and value in the world led him and his family on a wild and painful journey through atheism, mysticism, betrayal, loss, medical issues, moving trucks, and thousands of online trolls. The deconstruction of his faith is one story. The transformation of it is another. As Michael lets us know, our stories are the seams of illusion that we sew into reality―in order to label this and that. But what you think of as you (or anything else for that matter) is simply movement within the ocean of Being―of THIS. Once you see that is it just a story, you can let go and be free. You can get your copy of THIS on Amazon.com or, if you prefer audio books, you can get THIS for free by signing up for an Audible trial using our affiliate link.

Apr 4, 2019 • 1h 7min
What I'm Learning
Hillary McBride and Science Mike talk about learning to cope with change, growth, and intimacy.Want to see Michael Gungor and Science Mike this May? Tickets for their summer tour are on sale now.

Mar 24, 2019 • 1h 26min
Richard Rohr and The Universal Christ (Part 2)
Hillary McBride, William Matthews, Science Mike, and Michael Gungor talk with Richard Rohr about The Universal Christ--Fr. Rohr’s latest book. You can learn more about the book here. You can get the audiobook for The Universal Christ for free using our Audible affiliate link. Learn more here.

Mar 24, 2019 • 46min
Richard Rohr and The Universal Christ (Part 1)
Hillary McBride, William Matthews, Science Mike, and Michael Gungor talk with Richard Rohr about The Universal Christ--Fr. Rohr’s latest book. You can learn more about the book here. You can get the audiobook for The Universal Christ for free using our Audible affiliate link. Learn more here.

Mar 7, 2019 • 1h 11min
Fear | Live in Nashville
We’re discussing fear in an episode that was recorded live at The Liturgists Gathering in Nashville, TN. Special thanks to Jamie Lee Finch for joining us.
We’re going on tour! Join Science Mike and Michael Gungor for Tabs & Wafers. Tickets are on sale now--visit our events page for more information.