
Vertical Playpen
Want to learn more about Adventure and Experiential Education? Then this podcast is for you!
Listeners of this podcast will get;
- Adventure Programming Theory
- Facilitation Tips
- Activity Ideas
- Industry Career Advice
- Interviews from Industry Professionals
High 5 Adventure Learning Center is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to helping individuals, teams, schools, communities and businesses improve the way they live, learn and work together. Connect with us at high5adventure.org
Latest episodes

May 17, 2022 • 33min
Try It, Change It, Try It Again | Bryn Lottig
This phrase describes both our work as Experiential educators but it is also a large part of Bryn's pathway in this industry. In this episode, Bryn Lottig (co-founder of Kikori) talks to Phil about; - The transformational power of working in the outdoors and its effects on her - The need for this educational pedagogy to be taken seriously - The best advice she has recieved in her career so far Connect with Bryn - bryn@kikoriapp.com Learn more about Kikori - https://www.kikoriapp.com/

May 10, 2022 • 34min
Connection Activities | BOOST Live
Do connection activities actually help our participants connect? This was the topic of discussion in this live recorded episode of the podcast. It was recorded while attending the BOOST (Best Out-Of-School Time) 2022 Conference The contributors in this conversation; Phil Brown - @verticalplaypen Sam Copland - scopland@high5adventure.org Ian Hockley - ian@dylanswingsofchange.org ElizaBeth Phillips - cerphillips@gmail.com Peter Silvius - psilvius@seguin.k12.tx.us Activities used were introduced to me by Jan Keck - you can find more about Jan here - https://www.jankeck.com/

May 3, 2022 • 3min
The Busy Training Season - VPP On The Road
This is a short update episode to let you know that VPP will be on the road! Phil will be bringing his microphones with him this busy training season to learn more about the life of a trainer and to interact with the diversity of people he meets along the way. If you would like to submit questions he should ask folks on his journey, you can submit them via instagram - @verticalplaypen. Have a great spring and summer everyone!

Apr 26, 2022 • 29min
Facilitating Dialogue Sessions | Josh Nadzam
Josh Nadzam (Co-founder of On The Move Art Studio) joins Phil to discuss; - Discovering the power of facilitation - Growing as a facilitator - Facilitating dialogue sessions and why it is so novel Learn more about Josh - https://www.joshnadzam.com/ Learn more about On the Move - https://www.onthemoveartstudio.org/home.html Email Josh - joshnadzam@gmail.com

Apr 19, 2022 • 32min
Using Feedback to Empower | Joe Hirsch
Joe Hirsch (Ted X Speaker and Author of "The Feedback Fix) joins Phil to discuss; - The qualities of positive and negative feedback - Moving from a feedback to a feedforward mindset - The feedback wrap - How we can empower our participants and colleagues using feedback Connect with Joe - joe@joehirsch.me Learn more about Joe's work - https://joehirsch.me/

Apr 12, 2022 • 37min
Why Workshops Work | Myriam Hadnes
Myriam Hadnes (workshops.work) joins Phil to discuss; - The importance of leaders role modeling vulnerability - The work before the work, assessing the needs of your clients - Why doing things you have never done before can enhance your facilitation skills Connect with Myriam - myriam@workshops.work Learn more about Myriam's work - http://workshops.work/

Apr 5, 2022 • 36min
How do you Facilitate on a Challenge Course?
The training team gather to discuss; - Facilitating a 1-day challenge course experience - Facilitating a multi-day challenge course experience - Advice on challenge course programming How to contact us: Phil Brown - pbrown@high5adventure.org OR @verticalplaypen on Instagram Chris Damboise - cdamboise@high5adventure.org Lisa Hunt - lhunt@high5adventure.org Hanne Bailey - hbailey@high5adventure.org Rich Keegan - rkeegan@high5adventure.org

Mar 29, 2022 • 23min
What is a Challenge Course?
The Training team discuss; - What is a challenge course? - What's in a name? Challenge, high, ropes? - The history of challenge courses - Our memories of our 1st ever challenge course experiences.

Mar 22, 2022 • 28min
Uncovering Inner Resilience For Those Impacted by Cancer | Madeline Brooks
Madeline Brooks (Executive Director - OnBelay) joins Phil to discuss; - Her introduction to the world of adventure education - How to create safe and trusting environments for those impacted by cancer - The work of OnBelay and how you are able to support that work Find out more about OnBelay - https://www.on-belay.org/ Donate - https://www.on-belay.org/donate/ Connect with Madeline - madeline@on-belay.org

Mar 15, 2022 • 37min
Trauma Informed Facilitation | Andrew Florence
Andrew Florence, the Director of Experiential Learning at Crossnore Communities for Children, dives into the nuances of trauma-informed facilitation. He shares insights on how adventure-based programs can foster healing and personal growth. The conversation includes lighthearted moments about quirky family traditions and the joy they bring. Andrew highlights the importance of finding one's authentic voice in education and the role of community in supporting facilitators. A rich mix of humor, nostalgia, and meaningful discussions makes this chat truly engaging.