She Said Privacy/He Said Security

Anne Bradley is the Chief Customer Officer at Luminos. Anne helps in-house legal, tech, and data science teams use the Luminos platform to manage the automated AI risk, compliance, and approval processes, statistical testing, and legal documentation. Anne also serves on the Board of Directors of the Future of Privacy Forum, a nonprofit that serves as a catalyst for privacy leadership and scholarship, advancing principled data practices in support of emerging technologies. In this episode… AI is being integrated into everyday business functions, from diagnosing cancer to translating conversations and powering customer service chatbots and autonomous vehicles. While these tools deliver value, they also bring privacy, security, and ethical risks. As organizations dive into adopting AI tools, they often do so before performing risk assessments, establishing governance, and implementing privacy and security guardrails. Without safeguards and internal processes in place, companies may not fully understand how the tools function, what data they collect, or the risk they carry. So, how can companies efficiently assess and manage AI risk as they rush to deploy new tools?  Managing AI risk requires governance and the ability to test AI tools before deploying them. That’s why companies like Luminos provide a platform to help companies manage and automate the AI risk compliance approval processes, model testing, and legal documentation. This platform allows teams to check for toxicity, hallucinations, and AI bias even when an organization uses high-risk tools like customer-facing chatbots. Embedding practical controls, like pre-deployment testing and assessing vendor risk early, can also help organizations implement AI tools safely and ethically. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Anne Bradley, Chief Customer Officer at Luminos, about how companies can assess and mitigate AI risk. Anne explains the impact of deepfakes on public trust and the need for a regulatory framework to reduce harm. She shares why AI governance, AI use-case risk assessments, and statistical tools are essential for helping companies monitor outputs, reduce unintended consequences, and make informed decisions about high-risk AI deployments. Anne also highlights why it’s important for legal and compliance teams to understand business objectives driving an AI tool request before evaluating its risk.

Nick Oldham is the Chief Operations Officer, USIS, and Global Chief Risk, Privacy and Compliance Officer at Equifax Inc. A forward-thinking legal and operations executive, Nick has a proven track record of driving large-scale transformations by integrating legal expertise with strategic operational leadership. He oversees all enterprise-wide second-line functions, leading initiatives to embed AI, enable data-driven decision-making, and deliver innovative, compliant solutions across a $1.9B business unit. His focus is on building efficient, scalable systems that align with both compliance standards and long-term strategic goals. In this episode… Many companies are rushing to adopt AI tools without adequately training their workforce on how to use them responsibly. As AI becomes embedded in daily business operations, the biggest risk isn’t the technology itself, but the lack of human understanding around how AI works and what it can do. When teams struggle to understand the differences between machine learning and generative AI, it creates risks and makes it harder to establish appropriate privacy and security guardrails. Human training is AI's greatest weakness and strength, and closing that gap involves rethinking how companies educate and train employees at every level.  The responsible use of AI depends on human judgment. Companies need to embed privacy education, critical thinking, and AI risk awareness into training programs from the start. Employees should be taught how to ask questions, evaluate model behavior, and recognize when personal information is being misused. AI literacy should also extend beyond the workplace. Introducing it in high school or even earlier helps prepare future professionals to navigate complex AI tools and make thoughtful, responsible decisions. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Nick Oldham, Chief Operations Officer, USIS, and Global Chief Risk, Privacy and Compliance Officer at Equifax, about the role of human training in AI literacy. Nick breaks down the components of AI literacy, explains why everyone needs a foundational understanding, and emphasizes the importance of prioritizing privacy awareness when using AI tools. He also highlights ways to embed privacy and security into AI governance programs and provides actionable steps organizations can take to strengthen AI literacy across teams.

Andrew Clearwater is a Partner at Dentons’ Privacy and Cybersecurity Team and a recognized authority in privacy and AI governance. Formerly a founding leader at OneTrust, he oversaw privacy and AI initiatives, contributed to key data protection standards, and holds over 20 patents. Andrew advises businesses on responsible tech implementation, helping navigate global regulations in AI, data privacy, and cybersecurity. A frequent speaker, he offers insight into emerging compliance challenges and ethical technology use. In this episode… Many companies are diving into AI without first putting governance in place. They often move forward without defined goals, leadership, or alignment across privacy, security, and legal teams. This leads to confusion about how AI is being used, what risks it creates, and how to manage those risks. Without coordination and structure, programs lose momentum, transactions are delayed, and expectations become harder to meet. So how can companies build a responsible AI governance program? Building effective AI governance programs starts with knowing what’s in use, why it’s in use, what data AI tools and systems collect, the risk it creates, and how to manage it. Standards like ISO 42001 and the NIST AI Risk Management Framework help companies guide this process. ISO 42001 offers the benefit of certification and supports cross-functional consistency, while NIST may be better suited for organizations already using it in related areas. Both frameworks help companies define the scope of AI use cases, understand the risks, and inform policies before jumping into controls. Conducting data inventories and utilizing existing risk management processes are also essential in identifying shadow AI introduced by employees or third-party vendors. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Andrew Clearwater, Partner at Dentons, about how companies can build responsible AI governance programs. Andrew explains how standards and legal frameworks support consistent AI governance implementation and how to encourage alignment between privacy, security, legal, and ethics teams. He also outlines the importance of monitoring shadow AI across third-party vendors and practical steps companies can take to effectively structure their AI governance programs.

Merry Marwig is the VP Global Communications & Advocacy at Privacy4Cars. Merry is a pro-consumer, pro-business privacy advocate who is optimistic about what data privacy rights mean for everyday people — and for the companies they do business with. At Privacy4Cars, she helps protect drivers’ and passengers’ personal data while creating business opportunities for automotive companies. In this episode… Modern cars are like computers on wheels, collecting and storing data just like smartphones or laptops. Unlike those devices, however, vehicle data is often left unencrypted and persists long after a car is sold, rented, or reassigned. This is especially problematic for businesses that use corporate cars, rental vehicles, fleet vehicles, or personal vehicles for work purposes. Sensitive information such as contact lists, text messages, navigation history, and even security credentials can remain stored in vehicles long after they change hands, posing significant privacy, security, and even physical safety risks. To take control of sensitive data, companies need to establish data deletion policies for all vehicles used in a business context. This includes requiring rental agencies and fleet management providers to delete stored data and offer certificates of deletion when cars are returned or decommissioned. Companies should also require automotive providers to provide VIN-specific data disclosures so drivers understand what data the vehicle collects and how it's used and shared. Additionally, companies need to consider how privacy regulations like GDPR and CCPA apply to vehicle data collection and use it to inform their internal policies and third-party contracts. In today’s episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Merry Marwig, VP Global Communications & Advocacy at Privacy4Cars, about the privacy and security risks of data collected and stored in vehicles. Merry explains how cars used for work, whether rental, fleet, or personal, retain unencrypted personal and company data that can be exploited when vehicles change ownership or are decommissioned. She shares real-world case studies involving sensitive information left behind in cars, including banking credentials, contact lists, and patient health records. Merry also outlines how data deletion policies and VIN-specific disclosures, required through contracts with automotive providers, help companies reduce privacy and security risks.

Ian Riopel is the CEO and Co-founder of Root, applying agentic AI to fix vulnerabilities instantly. A US Army veteran and former Counterintelligence Agent, he’s held roles at Cisco, CloudLock, and Rapid7. Ian brings military-grade security expertise to software supply chains. John Amaral is the CTO and Co-founder of Root. Previously, he scaled Cisco Cloud Security to $500M in revenue and led CloudLock to a $300M acquisition. With five exits behind him, John specializes in building cybersecurity startups with strong technical vision. In this episode… Patching software vulnerabilities remains one of the biggest security challenges for many organizations. Security teams are often stretched thin as they try to keep up with vulnerabilities that can quickly be exploited. Open-source components and containerized deployments add even more complexity, especially when updates risk breaking production systems. As compliance requirements tighten and the volume of vulnerabilities grows, how can businesses eliminate software security risks without sacrificing productivity? Companies like Root are transforming how organizations approach software vulnerability remediation by applying agentic AI to streamline their approach. Rather than relying on engineers to triage and prioritize thousands of issues, Root’s AI-driven platform scans container images, applies safe patches where available, and generates custom patches for outdated components that lack official fixes. Root's AI automation resolves approximately 95% or more vulnerabilities without breaking production systems, allowing organizations to meet compliance requirements while developers stay focused on building and delivering software. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Ian Riopel and John Amaral, Co-founders of Root, about how AI streamlines software vulnerability detection. Together, they explain how Root’s agentic AI platform uses specialized agents to automate patching while maintaining software stability. John and Ian also discuss how regulations and compliance pressures are driving the need for faster remediation, and how Root differs from threat detection solutions. They also explain how AI can reduce security workloads without replacing human expertise.

Sarah Stalnecker is the Global Privacy Director at New Balance Athletics, Inc., where she leads the integration of privacy principles across the organization, driving awareness and compliance through education, streamlined processes, and technology solutions. In this episode… Operationalizing privacy programs starts with translating legal requirements into actions that work across teams. This means aligning privacy with existing tools and workflows while meeting evolving privacy regulations and adapting to new technologies. Today’s consumers also demand both personalization and privacy, and building trust means fulfilling these expectations without crossing the line. So, how can companies build a privacy program that meets regulatory requirements, integrates into daily operations, and earns consumer trust?  Embedding privacy into business operations involves more than just meeting regulatory requirements. It requires cultural change, leadership buy-in, and teamwork. Rather than forcing company teams to adapt to new privacy processes, organizations need to embed privacy requirements into existing workflows and systems that departments already use. Leading with consumer expectations instead of legal mandates helps shift mindsets and encourages collaborative dialogue about responsible data use. Documenting AI use cases and establishing an AI governance program also helps assess risks without reactive scrambling. Teams should also leverage privacy technology to scale processes and streamline compliance to ensure privacy becomes an embedded, organization-wide function rather than a siloed concern. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Sarah Stalnecker, Global Privacy Director at New Balance Athletics, about operationalizing privacy programs. Sarah shares how her team approaches data collection, embeds privacy into existing workflows, and uses consumer expectations to drive internal engagement. She also highlights the importance of documenting AI use cases and establishing AI governance to assess risk. Sarah provides tips on selecting and evaluating privacy technology and how to measure privacy program success beyond traditional metrics.

Brett Ewing is the Founder and CEO of AXE.AI, a cutting-edge cybersecurity SaaS start-up, and the Chief Information Security Officer at 3DCloud. He has built a career in offensive cybersecurity, focusing on driving exponential improvement. Brett progressed from a Junior Penetration Tester to Chief Operating Officer at Strong Crypto, a provider of cybersecurity solutions. He brings over 15 years of experience in information technology, with the past six years focused on penetration testing, incident response, advanced persistent threat simulation, and business development. He holds degrees in secure systems administration and cybersecurity, and is currently completing a Masters in cybersecurity with a focus area in AI/ML security at the SANS Technology Institute. Brett also holds more than a dozen certifications in IT, coding, and security from the SANS Institute, CompTIA, AWS, and other industry vendors. In this episode… Penetration testing plays a vital role in cybersecurity, but the traditional manual process is often slow and resource-heavy. Traditional testing cycles can take weeks, creating gaps that leave organizations vulnerable to fast-moving threats. With growing interest in more efficient approaches, organizations are exploring new AI tools to automate tasks like tool configuration, project management, and data analysis. How can cybersecurity teams use AI to test environments faster without increasing risk? AXE.AI offers an AI-powered platform that supports ethical hackers and red teamers by automating key components of the penetration testing process. The platform reduces overhead by configuring tools, analyzing output, and building task lists during live engagements. This allows teams to complete high-quality tests in days instead of weeks. AXE.AI’s approach supports complex environments, improves data visibility for testers, and scales efficiently across enterprise networks. The company emphasizes a human-centered approach and advocates for workforce education and training as a foundation for secure AI adoption. In today’s episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Brett Ewing, Founder and CEO of AXE.AI, about leveraging AI for offensive cybersecurity. Brett explains how AXE.AI’s platform enhances penetration testing and improves speed and coverage for large-scale networks. He also shares how AI is changing both attack and defense strategies, highlighting the risks posed by large language models (LLMs) and deepfakes, and explains why investing in continuous workforce training remains the most important cyber defense for companies today.

James Patto is the Partner of Helios Salinger. He is a leading voice in Australia’s tech law landscape, trusted by business and government on privacy, cybersecurity, and AI issues. With over a decade of experience as a digital lawyer, he helps organizations turn regulation into opportunity — bridging law, innovation, and strategy to build trust and thrive in a digital world. In this episode… Australian privacy law stands at a critical juncture as organizations potentially face the country's most significant regulatory transformation yet. While the current principles-based Australian Privacy Act has been the foundation for over a decade, it contains notable gaps, like limited individual rights and broad exemptions for small businesses, employee data, and political parties. 84% of Australians want more control over how their personal information is collected and used, and with recent enforcement changes introducing civil penalties and on-the-spot fines, regulators now have stronger tools to hold organizations accountable. As lawmakers consider the next phase of reforms, how can businesses prepare for new compliance requirements while navigating an uncertain implementation timeline?  Businesses can adapt to evolving privacy regulations and position themselves for success by strengthening their current privacy practices, including focusing on privacy notice quality, direct marketing opt-out procedures, and data breach response notice accuracy. Conducting a privacy maturity assessment and implementing streamlined, risk-based privacy impact assessments can help identify gaps and prepare for new compliance obligations. It’s also critical for organizations to understand the data they collect, where it resides, how it’s used, shared, or sold by building a comprehensive data inventory. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with James Patto, Partner at Helios Salinger, about the current state and future of Australia’s privacy law. James discusses the major shifts in Australia’s privacy landscape and the broader implications for businesses. He shares how Australia’s strong small business sector influences privacy policymaking and how the Privacy Review Report's 89 proposals might reshape Australia's regulatory framework. James also explores the differences between Australia’s privacy law and the GDPR, the timeline for proposed reforms, and what companies should do now to prepare.

Anita Gorney is the Head of Privacy and AI Legal at Harvey. Harvey is an AI tool for legal professionals and professional service providers. Before Harvey, she was Privacy Counsel at Stripe. Anita studied law in Sydney and began her career there before moving to London and then New York. In this episode… Legal professionals often spend time on manual tasks that are repetitive and difficult to scale. Emerging AI platforms, like Harvey AI, are addressing this challenge by offering tools that help lawyers handle tasks such as legal research and contract review more efficiently. As legal professionals adopt AI to streamline their work, they are placing greater focus on data confidentiality and the secure handling of client information. Harvey AI addresses these concerns through its strict privacy and security controls, customer-controlled retention and deletion settings, and a commitment to not train on customer data. Harvey AI provides a purpose-built platform tailored for legal professionals. The company’s suite of tools — Assistant, Vault, and Workflow — automates repetitive legal work like summarizing documents, performing contract reviews, and managing due diligence processes. Harvey AI emphasizes privacy and security through features like zero data retention, encrypted processing, and workspace isolation, ensuring customer data remains confidential and is never used for model training. With a transparent, customer-first approach, Harvey AI empowers legal teams to work more efficiently without compromising trust or user data. In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Anita Gorney, Head of Privacy and AI Legal at Harvey AI, about how legal professionals use specialized artificial intelligence to streamline their work. Anita explains how Harvey AI's platform helps with tasks like contract analysis and due diligence, while addressing privacy and security concerns through measures like customizable data retention periods and workspace isolation. She also discusses the importance of privacy by design in AI tools, conducting privacy impact assessments, and implementing user-controlled privacy settings.

Ben Halpert is a cybersecurity leader, educator, and advocate dedicated to empowering digital citizens. As a Fractional CISO, author, and the founder of Savvy Cyber Kids, he advances cyber safety and ethics. A sought-after speaker, Ben shares insights globally, shaping secure digital futures at work, school, and home. In this episode… Many parents mistakenly believe that technology companies have built-in safety controls that keep children safe online. In reality, these protections are often inadequate and misleading. From AI chatbots posing as friends to online predators targeting children through gaming platforms and social media, young users, whose brains are still developing, struggle to distinguish the differences between real human interactions and programmed responses. How can parents and caregivers proactively safeguard their children’s digital experiences while fostering healthy tech habits? Addressing these risks starts with parental oversight and consistent, age-appropriate education and guidance. Devices should be removed from kids’ bedrooms at night to prevent unsupervised use and reduce exposure to online threats. Parents should actively monitor every app, game, and online interaction, ensuring children only engage with people they know in real life. Families should also establish device-free times, like during meals, to encourage face-to-face communication and teach healthy social habits. Savvy Cyber Kids supports these efforts by providing age-appropriate educational resources, including children’s picture books, classroom activities, and digital parenting guides that help families navigate online safety. By focusing on direct education for young children and providing tools for parents and schools, the organization instills foundational privacy and cybersecurity awareness from an early age. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Ben Halpert, Founder of Savvy Cyber Kids, back to the podcast to discuss the growing digital threats facing kids’ today. Ben explains how AI chatbots are being treated as real friends, how social media messaging misleads parents, and why depending on tech companies for protection is risky. He also shares how predators use games and platforms to target kids, and how parental involvement and early education can help build safer digital habits. He shares steps parents can take to monitor and guide their children’s tech use at home, and explains how Savvy Cyber Kids helps by educating young children in schools and providing families with tools to teach online safety.