

Don't Panic Geocast
John Leeman and Shannon Dulin
John Leeman and Shannon Dulin discuss geoscience and technology weekly for your enjoyment! Features include guests, fun paper Friday selections, product reviews, and banter about recent developments. Shannon is a field geologist who tolerates technology and John is a self-proclaimed nerd that tolerates geologists.
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Nov 15, 2024 • 45min
Episode 402 - "Shoes in a dryer on turbo"
Ever wondered how silver journeys from ancient rock formations to the tech in your pocket? In this episode of Don't Panic Geocast, we dig deep into the fascinating world of silver—the metal that's shaped economies, inspired legends, and powers modern technology. From its formation in Earth’s crust to the precise science of extraction and refining, we’ll explore how silver’s unique properties make it indispensable in everything from solar panels to medical tools. Tune in to learn why this shiny element is more valuable—and more complicated—than you might think!
Hydrothermal Ore Deposits - Earth Science Reviews
Geology of Silver - US Geological Survey
Sedimentary Ore Deposits - Journal of Geology
Mining Methods - Open Pit and Underground - Minerals Education Coalition
Underground Mining Techniques and Risks - World Coal Association
Froth Flotation Process - Journal of Chemical Engineering
The Leaching Process in Silver Extraction - Environmental Chemistry
Merrill-Crowe Process for Silver Recovery - Mining Engineering
Electrowinning Process in Silver Extraction - Metallurgy and Mining Review
Smelting and Refining of Silver - International Smelting Association
Electrolytic Refining of Silver - American Journal of Chemistry
Conductivity of Silver in Electronics - IEEE Transactions on Electrical Engineering
Silver in Solar Panels - Solar Energy Journal
Medical Applications of Silver - The Lancet
History of Silver in Currency - Economic History Journal
The Role of Silver in Photography - Journal of Photographic Science
Economic Significance of Silver - World Silver Survey
Environmental Impacts of Silver Mining - Environmental Science & Technology
Supply and Demand of Silver - International Silver Council
Antimicrobial Properties of Silver - Journal of Applied Microbiology
Fun Paper Friday
Can seeing a bad (dad) joke actually make you funnier? This week’s Fun Paper Friday dives into the surprising effects of both funny and unfunny examples on our ability to create humor. It turns out that even groan-worthy jokes can fuel creativity—though they might make you work harder for the punchline!
Shin, Hyelim, et al. "Creative fixation is no laughing matter: The effects of funny and unfunny examples on humor production." The Journal of Creative Behavior 54.2 (2020): 487-494.
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Nov 8, 2024 • 58min
Episode 401 - "I fell into a lot of bogs"
This week, we dive into the fascinating world of coal—its origins, types, and the role it has played in shaping economies, past and present. We discuss coal’s formation in ancient swampy environments, the journey from mining to electricity generation, and the transition we’re witnessing as the world moves toward renewable energy sources. We wrap up with a Fun Paper Friday that challenges the classic "Infinite Monkeys Theorem"—could monkeys really type out Shakespeare if given enough time?
How Coal Forms and Coal Types - World Coal Association
Energy Density of Coal Types - Hypertextbook
Mining Methods and Processing - National Academies
Coal Transportation - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Coal’s Role in the Industrial Revolution - History.com
Global Coal Power Statistics - Statista
Future of Coal in Energy Transitions - International Energy Agency (IEA)
Fun Paper Friday
Can monkeys really type out Shakespeare? This study explores the probability of typing coherent text with a finite number of monkeys and limited time. Spoiler: even with thousands of monkeys, the odds are astronomically low, revealing the true limits of randomness.
Woodcock, Stephen, and Jay Falletta. "A numerical evaluation of the Finite Monkeys Theorem." Franklin Open (2024): 100171.
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Nov 1, 2024 • 37min
Episode 400 - "Mushroom Cloud of Salt"
Throughout human history, certain minerals have held immense power, shaping economies, societies, and entire civilizations. In this economic rocks series, John and Shannon discuss how essential minerals like salt, gold, and coal influenced historical events and continue to impact modern geopolitics. This week we start with salt and how it is essential to many aspects of our day to day.
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History of Salt in Ancient Civilizations - Learn how salt became an essential part of trade, diet, and religion in ancient China, Egypt, and Rome:contentReference[oaicite:0]{index=0}.
The Role of Salt in the Roman Empire - Discover how the Roman Empire used salt as currency and a political tool to control its territories:contentReference[oaicite:1]{index=1}.
The Impact of the Salt Trade in West Africa - Learn how salt was traded for gold and helped build the Ghana and Mali empires, creating a network of trade routes that shaped the region’s history:contentReference[oaicite:2]{index=2}.
Fun Paper Friday
This week's Fun Paper Friday features a study on the leaf-mimicking abilities of Boquila trifoliolata. The vine is capable of changing the shape and size of its leaves to resemble those of neighboring plants, potentially as a form of camouflage against herbivores. But the most surprising part? It can even mimic artificial plastic leaves. This finding challenges existing theories that leaf mimicry is driven solely by chemical signaling or genetic exchange between plants, suggesting instead that Boquila may possess a form of plant vision through specialized light-sensitive cells called “plant ocelli.” This discovery opens new possibilities for understanding plant sensory and adaptive behaviors.
White, J., & Yamashita, F. (2022). Boquila trifoliolata mimics leaves of an artificial plastic host plant. Plant Signaling & Behavior, 17(1), e1977530.
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Oct 18, 2024 • 59min
Episode 399 - "We would have already sacrificed some people"
In our 400th episode, we take a moment to reflect on some of our favorite past episodes and Fun Paper Fridays that have brought joy, knowledge, and a good laugh to the show. From memorable guests to quirky science papers, this episode is a tribute to everything that makes the Don't Panic Geocast special. Join us for this nostalgia-packed episode where we look back at the highlights of 399 episodes!
Highlighted Episodes
Episode 350 - "Borehole to Hell"
Episode 49 - "Would it blow your mind if I told you Africa is 14x larger than Greenland?"
Episode 50 - "Some serious geometric voodoo" Projections Part 2
Episode 364 - Geology of War "I'm glad I listen to this podcast"
Episode 6 - "What if you calibrated your candles differently?"
Episode 358 - "Put a pin in it" Surveillance Balloons
Episode 16 - "We are scared" Nature Calls
Top Titles
Episode 52 - "You pay for significant digits"
Episode 4 - "Is that cumulonimbus cloud storage?" Data Backups
Favorite Fun Papers
Kuna, Václav M., and John L. Nábělek. "Seismic crustal imaging using fin whale songs." Science 371.6530 (2021): 731-735.
Does removing something take more brain power than adding something? Adams, Gabrielle S., et al. "People systematically overlook subtractive changes." Nature 592.7853 (2021): 258-261.
Science makes you feel stupid and that's okay!Schwartz, Martin A. "The importance of stupidity in scientific research." Journal of Cell Science 121.11 (2008): 1771-1771.
Beaty, Chester B. "Great big boulders I have known." Geology 17.4 (1989): 349-352.
Winter is coming, but why? Orbital mechanics to the rescue! Paradise, Adiv, et al. "The Long Night: Modeling the Climate of Westeros." arXiv preprint arXiv:1903.12195 (2019).
Where do you go to find mythical creatures? There's a paper for that! Beconytė, Giedrė, Agnė Eismontaitė, and Jovita Žemaitienė. "Mythical creatures of Europe." Journal of Maps 10.1 (2014): 53-60.
Yanai, Itai, and Martin Lercher. "The two languages of science." Genome Biology 21.1 (2020): 1-9.
Meyer-Rochow, V. B., & Gal, J. (2003). Pressures produced when penguins pooh?calculations on avian defaecation. Polar Biology, 27(1), 56–58. http://doi.org/10.1007/s00300–003–0563–3
Dirksen, Neele, et al. "Learned control of urinary reflexes in cattle to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions." Current Biology 31.17 (2021): R1033-R1034.
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Oct 11, 2024 • 1h 1min
Episode 398 - "Are you going to take our jobs?"
Artificial Intelligence (AI) is making its way into academic research and writing, offering a range of tools that can help streamline workflows, enhance creativity, and improve productivity. In this episode, John and Shannon dive into some of the AI tools they’ve been experimenting with and discuss broader questions about fairness, disclosure, and the evolving role of AI in academia.
Elsevier’s Policy on Generative AI in Writing
Research Rabbit - AI-powered tool for literature discovery.
GitHub Co-pilot - AI coding assistant.
Elicit - AI for automating literature reviews and generating research insights.
Magic To-Do - AI-based task management tool.
Autodraw - AI-powered drawing tool.
Fun Paper Friday Summary:
So if AI takes over the world, what would it take to destory it? A solar flare should do it, and maybe us, in.
The superstorms from space that could end modern life

Oct 4, 2024 • 50min
Episode 397 - "Terps"
This week, we delve into the fascinating world of the ancient dwelling mounds—terps—of the northern Netherlands. These man-made mounds served as elevated homes for communities living in low-lying, flood-prone areas. Join us as we explore the geology of these mounds, why they were essential for survival, and how modern technology is used to monitor soil subsidence and preserve these unique archaeological sites.
Learn More:
Wierdenland Museum: Information about the museum and its exhibits on dwelling mounds.
Late-Holocene sea-level reconstruction and sedimentological data: An in-depth academic article on the evolution of the coastal landscape and sea-level changes influencing terp construction.
Fun Paper Friday Summary:
In this episode’s Fun Paper Friday, we discuss B.F. Skinner’s “Pigeons in a Pelican.” The paper recounts the story of "Project Pigeon," a World War II experiment that explored using pigeons to guide missiles by pecking at visual targets. Though the project faced skepticism and was never implemented in combat, it highlighted the potential of animal training and laid a foundation for behaviorist research. The study is a testament to how creative ideas can push the boundaries of science, even if they seem outlandish at first.
Skinner, B. F. (1960). Pigeons in a Pelican.

Sep 6, 2024 • 54min
Episode 396 - "Please Don't Call the FBI" GEARS 2024
This week John and Shannon summarize the GEARS 2024 workshop, lessons learned, and talk about a record air pressure that was just a fluke.
Fun Paper Friday
Bureau of Meteorology says quality checks reveal air pressure record not broken, miscalculations published online
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Aug 23, 2024 • 40min
Episode 395 - "Pressure Finds a Way"
Learn about the explosion at Yellowstone's Biscuit Basin site and what it means for the park. We also talk about drunk fruit flies and what they are teaching us about alcoholism.
Fun Paper Friday
Heberlein, Ulrike. "Genetics of alcohol-induced behaviors in Drosophila." Alcohol Research & Health 24.3 (2000): 185.
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Aug 17, 2024 • 44min
Episode 394 - "Gates of Hell" Darvaza Gas Crater
This week we look at a geological oddity in Turkmenistan and see how getting a puppy can give you the blues.
Video of the Burning Crater
Fun Paper Friday
Ståhl, Aada, et al. "Development and validation of the puppy blues scale measuring temporary affective disturbance resembling baby blues." npj Mental Health Research 3.1 (2024): 27.
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Jul 26, 2024 • 1h 11min
Episode 393 - "Fujiwhara Effect!" Twisters Movie Review
We went to watch Twisters and review it from the standpoint of two people who have chased storms professionally. Also what do philosophers have to say about the original movie and its mythological reconsiliations?
Fun Paper Friday
King, Geoff. "The scientist as pioneer hero: Hollywood's mythological reconciliations in twister and contact." Science as Culture 8.3 (1999): 371-379.
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