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Feb 8, 2023 • 44min

Interview: Alain Meier, Plaid's Head of Identity

In this episode, I talk to Alain Meier, the Head of Identity at Plaid. While I imagine most readers/listeners are pretty familiar with Plaid’s core capabilities, the company moved into the identity verification space through its acquisition of Meier’s startup Cognito about a year ago.We had a chance to talk about:* Alain’s experiencing starting and selling Cognito* Use cases for identity verification outside of financial services* Emerging identity tech, like mobile driver’s licenses* The potential and challenge of “self-sovereign” and decentralized identity* and more!If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line. Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 25, 2023 • 32min

Interview: Michael Sindicich, EVP & Head of TripActions Liquid

In this episode, I talk to Michael Sindisitch, EVP & Head of TripActions Liquid, an end-to-end travel, expense, and corporate card solution.We had a chance to talk about:* TripActions recent $300 million equity raise & $400 million credit facility* TripActions unique capabilities vs. others in the travel or expense management spaces* How TripActions thinks about the competitive landscape* TripActions’ experience during COVID and the travel rebound as the pandemic wanes* and more!If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line.Existing subscriber? Please consider supporting this newsletter by upgrading to a paid subscription. New here? Subscribe to get Fintech Business Weekly each Sunday: Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Jan 4, 2023 • 47min

Interview: Scott Sanborn, CEO of LendingClub

In this episode, I talk to Scott Sanborn, CEO of “OG” fintech LendingClub, which made the transition from being a fintech “peer-to-peer” lender to acquiring and becoming a bank.We had a chance to talk about:The factors that drove LendingClub to become a bank; what lessons today’s fintech (and crypto) companies can learn from the challenges LendingClub has navigated; how LendingClub is responding to the changing economic climate; the opportunity and impact of “alternative data,” like cashflow-based underwriting, and novel products, like earned wage access; and more!Special thanks to episode sponsor TripActions, the end-to-end travel, expense management, and corporate card solution.If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line. Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Nov 16, 2022 • 27min

Interview: Hristo Borisov, Cofounder & CEO at Payhawk

In this episode, I talk to Hristo Borisov, cofounder and CEO at Payhawk, a spend management solution enabling mid-sized businesses to spend and scale globally.We had a chance to talk about: Payhawk’s strategy to compete in the increasingly crowded expense management space; how Payhawk’s business and revenue models compare to competitors; lessons learned from scaling Payhawk into 32 countries; differences of building for the US market vs. the European market; and more!If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line. Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Nov 10, 2022 • 30min

Predictions for 2023: Live from Money20/20

One last very special podcast from Money20/20. In this live episode, I was joined by David Sinsky, VP of Lending at Unit, Jarad Gilmore, Head of Partnerships at Middesk, Emanuel Pleitez, Head of Business Development at Finix, and Nikhil Sachdev, Managing Director at Insight Partners.In the spirit of Las Vegas and the game night event this was recorded at, we took a gamble on making our best predictions for 2023 on the following topics:How the macroeconomic climate will impact banking and fintechWhat fintech fundraising and valuations will look likeHow Big Techs’ efforts in fintech and banking will unfoldI want to extend a huge thank you to the guests, the event hosts Unit, Middesk, Finix, and Insight Partners, and the teams behind the scene that made this possible — thank you!If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line. Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Nov 3, 2022 • 42min

Interview: Rex Salisbury, Founder & GP, Cambrian Ventures

In this episode, I talk to Rex Salisbury, Founder and General Partner at Cambrian Ventures.We had a chance to talk about:-becoming an accidental community builder-the backstory of Cambrian Ventures-Rex’s experience at renowned VC firm Andreessen Horowitz-working with founders at the earliest stages-the rise of emerging managers & the “Solo GP”…and more! Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Oct 19, 2022 • 32min

Interview: Trisha Kothari, Cofounder & CEO of Unit21

Trisha Kothari, co-founder & CEO of Unit21, discusses breaking data silos in fraud risk management, enabling fraud professionals to manage models without engineering support, and the impact of the regulatory environment on Unit21's customers.
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Sep 21, 2022 • 44min

Interview: Neal Desai of Kafene

Welcome back to Fintech Business Podcast. In this episode, I talk to Neal Desai, co-founder and CEO of lease-to-own startup Kafene — which just announced it has raised an $18 million Series B. Congrats to Neal and the entire Kafene team!We had a chance to talk about:* How lease-to-own works & how it’s different than BNPL* What’s “fintech” about Kafene vs. legacy players like Aaron’s and Rent-a-Center* How Kafene’s lease-to-own can actually be cheaper than credit cards* How Kafene underwrites risk and handles customers who can’t pay* and more!If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line.Existing subscriber? Please consider supporting this newsletter by upgrading to a paid subscription. New here? Subscribe to get Fintech Business Weekly each Sunday: Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Aug 31, 2022 • 37min

Interview: Soups Ranjan, Cofounder of Sardine

Hey all, Jason here.Welcome back to Fintech Business Podcast. In this episode, I talk to Soups Ranjan, co-founder and CEO at Sardine, a fraud prevention and compliance infrastructure startup. We had a chance to talk about:* How technology can enable faster, safer money movement* Sardine’s unique approach of taking on the fraud risk of its customers* The trade-offs in reducing friction in financial apps* and more…If you’re interested in sponsoring an episode or appearing as a guest, drop us a line.Existing subscriber? Please consider supporting this newsletter by upgrading to a paid subscription. New here? Subscribe to get Fintech Business Weekly each Sunday: Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe
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Aug 14, 2022 • 42min

Banking-as-a-Service & Regulation: A Conversation with Sankaet Pathak of Synapse & Shaul David of Railsr

Hey all, Jason here.This Sunday, I have a “hybrid” post for you — both regular newsletter content and a special podcast conversation about banking-as-a-service and regulation, with guests Sankaet Pathak, co-founder and CEO of Synapse, and Shaul David, Head of Banking at Railsr.We had a wide-ranging conversation about the space, including:* How banking-as-a-service can help bank/fintech partnerships to scale* Why some banking-as-a-service platforms want to be regulated* How to ensure customers funds are protected when a fintech (or bank, or e-money institution) fails* Predictions for the future of banking-as-a-service* and moreClick “Listen Now” above or find the show on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen to pods.Existing subscriber? Please consider supporting this newsletter by upgrading to a paid subscription. New here? Subscribe to get Fintech Business Weekly each Sunday:How Do Goldman Sachs’ CFPB Complaints Stack Up?Last week, we learned that the CFPB is investigating Goldman Sachs, which issues co-branded cards with Apple and General Motors, over its “credit card account management practices, including with respect to the application of refunds, crediting of nonconforming payments, billing error resolution, advertisements, and reporting to credit bureaus.” Now, CNBC is reporting one possible source of the scrutiny is how Goldman handles chargebacks on its cards. Per CNBC (emphasis added):“When an Apple Card user disputes a transaction, Goldman has to seek a resolution within regulatory timelines, and it sometimes failed at that, said the people, who requested anonymity to speak candidly about the situation. Customers were sometimes given conflicting information or had long wait times, the people said.Goldman got more disputes than it counted on, said one source. ‘You have these queues that you need to clear out within a certain amount of time. The business was getting so big, suddenly we had to create more automation to deal with it.’…Regulators are focused on customer complaints from the past few years, and the biggest source of those came from attempted chargebacks…”The Fair Credit Billing Act (FCBA) requires card issuers to acknowledge receipt of a dispute within 30 days and to investigate and resolve them within two billing cycles (not to exceed 90 days).Goldman Sachs’ Most Common ComplaintsSince launching its first credit card, the Apple Card, in August 2019, consumers have lodged just over 1,300 complaints related to Goldman’s credit cards with the CFPB.While it is difficult to compare Goldman to other issuers on the absolute number of complaints, it’s possible to compare the relative frequency of types of complaints.Since the launch of the Apple Card, the five most common categories of complaint about Goldman to the CFPB were:* Credit card company isn't resolving a dispute about a purchase on your statement* Application denied* Can't use card to make purchases* Problem during payment process* Card was charged for something you did not purchase with the cardSo how does Goldman stack up to other major card issuers?About 27% of all complaints to the CFPB about Goldman’s credit cards were related to transaction disputes. While this may sound high, it’s slightly below major card issuer Citibank, though above American Express, Capital One, and Synchrony.A typical complaint to Goldman about a dispute sounded something like this one (emphasis added):“I had made a purchase at a XXXX dealership for a service ( fixing my a/c ). I paid for the service up front, like the dealer requested. I had to leave town for work, when I came back the dealer sent back the parts for my car, so I spoke to the XXXX and he agreed to refund me for the services, given that I never received them. XXXX never refunded me, so I took it with XXXX XXXX Credit Card and dispute it.They returned saying that the dealership had enough proof that I made the purchase. However they refused to see that through the whole time I talked to them about the dispute, I mentioned several times, I never received the service. I made the purchase and never got the services. When requested proof of the investigation. They had none, only that I made the purchase. No proof of the dealership saying I received the services, the only thing I got was we can do nothing.”The two categories of complaint where Goldman really stands out from others are “Application denied” and “Can’t use card to make purchases.” The high share of complaints about denied applications makes enough sense, given the high-profile launch of the Apple Card and unfounded complaints of gender discrimination.The complaints about not being able to use the card to make purchases — which accounted for just over 9% of all complaints about Goldman-issued credit cards, are a bit more unusual. For other major issuers, these kinds of complaints represented just 2-4% of complaints to the CFPB.Though the exact complaints vary, a common theme emerges, where a user’s card is restricted for unclear reasons, and, when they contact Goldman, they’re unable to get an answer as to why.Many complaints also referenced calling repeatedly, long hold times, and unfulfilled promises that consumers would be called back.For example, one customer wrote to the CFPB (emphasis added):“For exactly a month now, Apple restricted my Apple credit card and I have not been able to make purchases using this card because they said my account is ‘under review’.They said that someone would contact me to resolve the situation when the review is done, but they never did. When I tried calling back like every week (latest was on XX/XX/XXXX), Apple still told me the same thing ... to wait for a return call.”…and another wrote (emphasis added):“I used my credit card within my limit as I normally would. The account has been restricted and I wasnt told why other than something triggered a response in their department. Ive called numerous times and my account is still restricted over a week later. Im not given a time frame of when I can usee my account. After reading about this companys practices online in similar cases, it looks like many people are restricted from using their cards for over a month.”CFPB Interpretative Rule Puts Google, Meta on Notice For UDAAP, Consumer Protection Violations LiabilityThe CFPB has put “Big Tech” on notice that they may be considered service providers to financial services companies that use their advertising platforms and thus “can be held liable by the CFPB or other law enforcers for committing unfair, deceptive, or abusive acts or practices as well as other consumer financial protection violations.”The CFPB’s statement released in conjunction with the interpretative rule draws a distinction between “traditional advertising,” like a TV commercial or bill board, and “digital marketing.” According to the statement (emphasis added):“Traditional advertising relies on getting a product or service out to as wide an audience as possible. A traditional marketer, for example, may try to purchase time and space for a TV commercial on the most watched station or show.Digital marketers, on the other hand, seek to maximize individuals’ interactions with ads. They may harvest personal data to feed their behavioral analytics models that can target individuals or groups that they predict are more likely to interact with an ad or sign up for a product or service.”Because digital marketing platforms “go beyond” traditional advertising, they do not qualify for the “time and space” exception that a TV station or newspaper would enjoy, the CFPB says.The agency argues that targeting and optimization algorithms common in digital marketing constitute a material service to financial advertisers (emphasis added):“Digital marketing providers are typically materially involved in the development of content strategy when they identify or select prospective customers or select or place content in order to encourage consumer engagement with advertising.Digital marketers engaged in this type of ad targeting and delivery are not merely providing ad space and time, and they do not qualify under the ‘time or space’ exception.”What does this mean in practice? While the CFPB doesn’t name specific ad platforms in the interpretative rule nor in its statement, it’s pretty clearly targeted at Google and Meta (Facebook).While the statement about the interpretive rule is broad, referencing potential liability for unfair, deceptive, and abusive practices, the most obvious area that could receive scrutiny is how ad platforms ensure compliance with ECOA or other kinds of unfair discrimination.The Equal Credit Opportunity Act prohibits discrimination in access to credit on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, age, public assistance, or the exercise of any rights under the Consumer Credit Protection Act.This isn’t purely theoretical — the Department of Justice recently reached a settlement with Meta on similar allegations that when its targeting algorithms were used for housing advertisements, the result was illegal discrimination in violation of the Fair Housing Act.In fact, CFPB Director Chopra referenced this case in remarks he gave last week coinciding with release of the rule. He closed those remarks by saying (emphasis added):“Today, relationship banking is under threat. In part, this is because our sensitive data is viewed as more valuable to firms than our actual selves. Advances in technology should help our economy and society advance, rather than incentivizing a rush to seize our sensitive financial data and to allow tech giants to evade existing laws that other firms must comply with. It is critical that we all work together to address this.”Digit to Pay $2.7 Million Penalty for Deceiving Users on OverdraftsSavings app Digit, which was recently acquired by small-dollar lender Oportun, has reached a settlement with the CFPB over its marketing and business practices that resulted in consumers overdrafting their accounts.The language in the press release announcing the order is notable for describing the company as “lying” to consumers:The Digit app links to a customer’s existing checking account and then automatically determines an amount to transfer to a separate savings account.Digit promised that such transfers would not cause a user to overdraft their account and that, if they did, Digit would reimburse them.But, according to the consent order, that was not the case:“Falsely guaranteed no overdrafts: Hello Digit represented that its tool “never transfers more than you can afford,” and it provided a “no overdraft guarantee.” But instead, Hello Digit routinely caused consumers’ checking accounts to incur overdraft fees charged by their banks. Hello Digit received complaints about overdrafts daily.Broke promises to make whole on its mistakes: The company also represented that if there was an overdraft, it would reimburse consumers. But the company often denied customers who tried to recoup their money. The company has received nearly 70,000 overdraft-reimbursement requests since 2017.Pocketed interest that should have gone to consumers: As of mid-2017, Hello Digit deceived consumers when it represented that it would not keep any interest earned on consumer funds that it was holding, when in fact the company kept a significant amount of the interest earned. Had Hello Digit kept its promise to not keep the interest on consumers’ funds, consumers could have pocketed the extra savings.”For its part, Oportun, which acquired Digit, released the following statement (emphasis added):“Digit received a CID from the CFPB in June 2020. The CID was discussed with Oportun during the acquisition process. The stated purpose of the CID was to determine whether Digit, in connection with offering its products or services, misrepresented the terms, conditions, or costs of the products or services in a manner that is unfair, deceptive, or abusive.Through the investigation, it was found that with a success rate of better than 99.99%, Digit isn’t ‘perfect,’ meaning a Digit Save transaction caused an overdraft fee for one of our members less than 0.008% of the time.As a result, Digit owes 1,947 members approximately $35 each, for a total of $68,145. In addition, Digit will pay a civil money penalty of $2.7 million. While we disagree with the CFPB on this matter, we are happy to have it settled.”It’s unclear how Digit’s purported 99.99% success rate reconciles with the CFPB’s claim that the company has received nearly 70,000 overdraft-related complaints since 2017.Other Good ReadsWhat’s Going Wrong at Goldman Sachs’ Marcus Consumer Bank (Business Insider)A PFM App By Any Other Name (Fintech Takes)Family Fortunes: The Origins and Growth of the Family Office (Net Interest)Contact Fintech Business WeeklyLooking to work with me in any of the following areas? Email me.* Fintech advising & consulting* Sponsoring this newsletter* News tip or story suggestion* Early stage startup looking to raise equity or debt capital Get full access to Fintech Business Weekly at fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/subscribe

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