
Upstream
There are no ordinary things. We can meet God in the most surprising places…if we only know how to look. Go Upstream, discover a world charged with the grandeur of God—and learn to live in that bigger world.
Latest episodes

Oct 3, 2023 • 1h 3min
What Critical Theory Gets Wrong—and Right | Neil Shenvi & Pat Sawyer
Dr. Neil Shenvi and Dr. Pat Sawyer discuss critical social theories and their connection to Christianity, highlighting the truths and lies within them. They explore topics such as the significance of race as a social construct, the culturally conditioned nature of gender expression, and the challenges of comprehending critical social theory. Their goal is to foster unity and healing in society without solely relying on critical social theory.

Sep 26, 2023 • 1h
Why Are Churches Dying? | Michael Graham
Michael Graham, co-author of The Great Dechurching, offers data-driven answers and surprising hope about the decline of churches in America. The podcast explores the reasons behind the decline, including church hurt and shifting religious landscapes. It also discusses the complexity of where de-churched individuals are going, and the importance of belief, behavior, and belonging in the sociology of religion. The podcast provides actionable insights for pastors to navigate these challenges and retain members.

Sep 19, 2023 • 1h 4min
Why Does Believing in God Feel Like Work? | Joseph Minich
Dr. Joseph Minich explores the challenges of believing in God in the modern world. Topics discussed include shifts in beliefs and dissonance experienced by American evangelicals, the misconception of science disproving God, the ontological argument and simultaneous rootedness, the purpose of proofs for believing in God, the treatment of faith and the concept of felt divine absence, the crisis of faith and the role of religious experience, and strategies for responding to doubt.

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Sep 12, 2023 • 59min
The Five Lies Coming for Your Church and Your Children | Rosaria Butterfield
Dr. Rosaria Butterfield, a former radical professor, shares her journey of transformation to Christianity and discusses the influence of liberal Christianity and the normalization of homosexuality. The podcast explores the moral and ethical problem of affirming homosexual acts, the impact of feminism, and the challenge of cultural beliefs. It also highlights the flaws of inclusive orthodoxy and emphasizes the importance of upholding God's word.

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Sep 5, 2023 • 1h 6min
What Has the Internet Done to Our Brains ... and Souls? | Samuel James
Samuel James, author of Digital Liturgies: Recovering Christian Wisdom in an Online Age, joins the podcast to discuss the negative impact of the internet on our minds and souls. They explore the influence of personal narratives over objective truth claims, the dominance of algorithms, and the cognitive differences between online and offline reading. They also touch on the influence of pornography, the lack of checks and balances on the internet, and the opportunity for Christians to create a healthier technological environment.

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Aug 29, 2023 • 58min
God Is Speaking ... If We Will Listen | Os Guinness
Dr. Os Guinness discusses his book 'Signals of Transcendence' and explores personal experiences and encounters with God throughout history. They also delve into the concept of recognizing and exploring these signals, sharing stories of individuals who have experienced them. The chapter concludes with a discussion on actively listening for signals of transcendence and taking action.

Aug 22, 2023 • 1h 2min
When Girls Decide They’re Boys | Katie McCoy
We’re witnessing an unprecedented epidemic of teenage girls who want to change their gender and think transition will make them happy. What’s really going on, and how can Christians respond? Shane welcomes Dr. Katie McCoy to answer these hard questions using her new book, To Be a Woman.

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Aug 15, 2023 • 1h 1min
The Whole Bible Is a Creation Story | Edward Klink
Edward Klink, author of 'The Beginning and End of All Things,' discusses the purpose and function of creation beyond just its origins. He highlights the connection between creation theology and the gospel story, the significance of Adam and Eve as representatives of God's authority, and the role of the church in fulfilling its prophetic, priestly, and kingly duties. Dr. Klink also explores the tension between grief and God's promises, offering insights on faith and hope in difficult times.

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Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 1min
You Were Created to Create! | Brian Brown
In this episode, Shane speaks with Brian Brown, co-editor of Why We Create. They discuss the deep connection between art and creativity, the significance of Leaf by Niggle in understanding distractions and finding value in everything, and the tension between ordinary and special aspects of life. They also explore the importance of character development in movies and the significance of Christian creativity in completing unfinished projects. Lastly, they touch on the concept of public theology and its relationship to creativity.

Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 6min
Mistakes We Make When We 'Engage the Culture' | Justin Bailey
Christians easily fall into the habit of treating culture as something “out there,” distinct from us and potentially corrupting or dangerous. But what if we are a part of that culture, and what if conflict isn’t the only or best way to understand our role in shaping culture? Shane welcomes Dr. Justin Bailey to discuss his latest book, Interpreting Your World: Five Lenses for Engaging Theology and Culture.