
Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy
How can you change the world? Join Krishnan Guru-Murthy and his guest of the week as they explore the big ideas influencing how we think, act and live.
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Sep 2, 2022 • 43min
Dave Stewart on meeting Annie Lennox, Eurythmics and his new album
Dave Stewart is a musician, who rose to fame after forming the iconic British pop duo, Eurythmics, alongside Annie Lennox. Krishnan talks to him about his latest solo album, Ebony McQueen, which has drawn heavily on the blues he heard growing up in Sunderland, as he tells the story of his life through the songs. Ebony McQueen is a 26 track epic, which will also become a film, featuring a fictional “voodoo queen” who visits a boy very much in need of the blues. Producer: Joe Lord-Jones

Aug 26, 2022 • 33min
Deborah Meaden on the cost of living crisis, why she hated school and how Dragons’ Den has transformed the business world
Deborah Meaden is a successful businesswoman, entrepreneur and star of the TV show Dragons’ Den. She talks to Krishnan about her worries about the British economy, how Dragons’ den has transformed the world of business and why she has been talking about protecting the environment for decades. Producer: Rachel Evans

Aug 12, 2022 • 37min
Tom Daley on LGBTQ+ inclusion in sport, trans rights and being a gay parent
Tom Daley is an Olympic Gold Medallist, sports personality, campaigner and knitter. We recently saw him at the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games as a flag bearer, bearing the Progress Pride flag with LGBTQ+ athletes across the commonwealth. Krishnan talks to Tom about why he is fighting for LGBTQ+ inclusion in sports, his views on trans athlete participation and what it’s been like for him being a gay parent in the UK. Warning: contains distressing themes. Sources: BBC Produced by: Rachel Evans

Jul 29, 2022 • 32min
Michael Pollan on his belief that using psychedelics can cure mental health issues
Michael Pollan is one of TIME magazine’s top 50 most influential people in the US, he is a reporter, writer and psychonaut. His books The Omnivore’s Dilemma and The Botany of Desire questions the way the world thinks about food and he is now doing the same for psychedelics and psychoactive plants. His book How To Change Your Mind and a new Netflix series by the same name explore his belief that Psychedelics are the tool to understanding the mind. Produced by: Nina Hodgson

Jul 22, 2022 • 42min
Steve Thompson on his early-onset dementia, his new book and how rugby changed his life
Steve Thompson is a former England rugby player and he played in every England match during the 2003 Rugby World Cup. But today, age 43, Steve remembers nothing about that final. And in 2020 he was diagnosed with early-onset dementia - and probable chronic traumatic encephalopathy. In today’s episode Krishnan talks to him about his diagnosis, the impact it’s had on his mental health and his memoir, ‘Unforgettable’. if you have been affected by any of the issues covered in that report, you can find a range of places to seek help by visiting channel4.com/support Produced by: Joe Lord-Jones and Freya Pickford

Jul 15, 2022 • 37min
US Air Force Chief General CQ Brown Jr. on the Ukraine war, BLM and Top Gun
General Charles Q Brown Jr. is the chief of staff of the US Air Force. Krishnan talks to him about how the war in Ukraine has changed the way he thinks about defending the US, why he joined the US Air Force and whether he thinks anything has changed in America since the death of George Floyd. Producer: Freya Pickford Sources: Pacific Air Forces/ Mentorship Moment

Jul 8, 2022 • 40min
Asma Khan on her female run restaurant Darjeeling Express and discrimination in hospitality
Asma Khan is a world-renowned restaurateur and cookbook author who runs London restaurant Darjeeling Express with its kitchen entirely staffed by women. After two years at her current location in Covent Garden, she has moved on, but she’s struggling to find another place for her restaurant. She blames discrimination in what she called the ‘all white, Mayfair, men only club’ of the hospitality industry. She joined Krishnan to talk about where her love of cooking real Indian food came from, finding a new home for her restaurant, and writing her recent cookbook for her mother. Produced by : Nina Hodgson

Jul 1, 2022 • 41min
Ukrainian MP Lesia Vasylenko on her work, how the war might end and Russian war tactics
Lesia Vasylenko is a Ukrainian politician and human rights lawyer. Since the war in Ukraine began, we’ve spoken to her many times on Channel 4 News, but she joins Krishnan to talk about what it was like to have to send her children to another country when the war in Ukraine began. She also discusses her first impression of President Zelenskyy and how she believes this war might end. Produced by : Freya Pickford

Jun 24, 2022 • 34min
Leila Mottley on writing her bestselling novel at 17, police brutality in America and the way the world treats Black girls
Leila Mottley has only just turned 20 and she is already a New York Times Bestseller and the youngest person to make Oprah Winfrey’s book club. Her first book, which she started writing one month before her 17th birthday, has received rave reviews from critics. She joins Krishnan to talk about all the themes her novel, Nightcrawling, takes in; racism, sexism, poverty, injustice, police abuse of power. Produced by : Nina Hodgson

Jun 17, 2022 • 40min
‘Don’t treat those who disagree with you as your enemy’ - Archbishop Justin Welby
Justin Welby has been the Archbishop of Canterbury since 2013. Before he began training for ministry in 1989, Archbishop Justin worked in the oil industry for 11 years. His new book, The Power of Reconciliation encourages peacebuilding at all levels, turning the abstract idea of reconciliation into something that can be done throughout life. Krishnan joined the Archbishop at Lambeth Palace to talk about what reconciliation is, and how we can use it to approach wars, culture wars and personal conflicts as well as what the role of church is in a time of war. Produced by: Freya Pickford and Rachel Evans
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