

Folding Towels - A Podcast for Massage Therapists with Jackie and David
Jackie Kerin and David Clayton
Jackie Kerin and David Clayton met over a massage table in Adelaide (Australia) back in 2015 - now they bring their quirks, and passion for the industry to this brand-new podcast. Discussing all the things they never told you about in massage school - complex cases, difficult customers, maintaining boundaries, administration, being in business and making decisions, and the never-ending pile of laundry. Most importantly, staying passionate to do what you actually trained to do and love. Folding towels is the massage class you wish you could take; with all the questions you wish you'd asked.
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Dec 16, 2025 • 20min
Folding Towels: Our 2025 Wrap-Up
We wrap up the year with a fast, fun look back at our favourite moments, big laughs, unexpected lessons, and the episodes that made 2025 unforgettable. Join Jackie and David for a light, joyful finale as we celebrate the wins, thank our listeners, and share what’s coming next year.👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "The Twelve Days of Christmas Jazzy Version", Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Dec 9, 2025 • 49min
Episode 120: Slow Down, Switch Off: A Gentle Guide to Holiday Breaks for Therapists
December hits. Schedules implode. Clients shuffle like mad. And every therapist asks the same thing: should I just take a break? David and Jackie cut through the chaos with a fast, honest look at Tetris Month, why January goes flaky, and how to protect your sanity. Learn how to plan time off, set boundaries, manage client expectations, and actually return rested rather than wrecked. We chat about what it really means to pause, breathe, and take a holiday. the seasonal rhythms, the emotional load of December, and how to communicate time off with kindness and clarity.From creating space to rest to easing gently back into work, this episode offers a gentle reminder that breaks aren’t indulgent. They’re essential.👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Dec 2, 2025 • 43min
Episode 119: Gifts at Christmas (and Why You Don’t Owe Anyone One)
It’s December, the Facebook groups are buzzing, and massage therapists everywhere are asking the same question: Do I have to give my clients gifts? In this episode, Jackie and David dive straight into the holiday chaos and cut through the pressure, guilt, and mixed messages that show up every year.They explore why you never owe anyone a present, how to express genuine gratitude without turning Christmas into extra labour, and what actually lands as a meaningful gesture. Expect stories from their clinics, clever low-cost gift ideas, a reminder that referrals are the ultimate compliment, and a few hilarious moments (including a client who 3D-prints surprises best kept off your desk).This is a lively, practical conversation that helps you finish the year with confidence, boundaries, humour, and a clear sense of what truly matters in your client relationships.👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Nov 24, 2025 • 23min
Episode 118: Raising Your Prices Without Upsetting Your Clients (Revisited)
It’s that time of year: calendars are turning, and price changes are on the horizon. In this replay (Season 1, Episode 32) of one of our most practical episodes, David and Jackie break down exactly how to raise your massage prices - without guilt, anxiety, or losing clients.If you’ve ever typed out an apology post or stressed about charging your worth, this episode is for you. Your business needs to grow, and your prices should reflect your experience and value. And YOU probably deserve a pay rise too! So, if you’ve been waiting for permission, this is it. In this re-released episode, we cover exactly how to raise your prices without upsetting your regulars.This conversation will help you do it with confidence and grace.👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Nov 18, 2025 • 50min
Episode 117: Staying in the Game: How to Thrive in Massage for the Long Haul
Most massage therapists don’t last long in the industry—five to seven years is common. But what if you want a career that spans decades? In this episode, David and Jackie unpack the secrets to a long and happy life in massage therapy. From avoiding burnout and injury to charging well, finding your niche, and holding boundaries, this is a must-listen for anyone who wants to keep loving the work for years to come.FREE DOWNLOAD: Strength and Conditioning Plan for Massage Therapists👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Nov 11, 2025 • 42min
Episoe 116: Will Massage and Myotherapy in Australia ever be recognised as allied health?
The question that keeps coming up in massage therapy circles: Will massage and myotherapy in Australia ever be recognised as allied health?David and Jackie unpack the context and complexities behind professional recognition. They explore what “allied health” really means, the function of AHPRA, and why massage therapists sit in a uniquely funny grey area.Here is that video of flaming massage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2_xsMReTGkFrom qualification inconsistencies and multiple associations to public misconceptions and rogue operators, take a look at the barriers that keep massage on the fringe. But it’s not all frustration — because advocacy is already underway. Collaboration across associations is gaining traction.And how therapists present themselves can raise standards and strengthen our profession.👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Nov 4, 2025 • 46min
Episode 115: Live from the MIMT Soft Tissue Congress 2025
Recorded live at the Melbourne Institute of Massage and Myotherapy Soft Tissue Congress 2025.David and Jackie share their insights from a day surrounded by passionate therapists and educators. Sarah Nehme from BFT redefines how we use exercise prescription to approach pain and progression. Elicia Crook from Health Leader Co brought her energy to marketing and business strategy, showing how simple, consistent actions create sustainable growth. And Kylie Hicks shared stories of impact on trauma-informed practice, exploring how empathy, boundaries, and psychological safety can impact on transforming the lives of people living with chronic pain.Watching webinars on Zoom in comfort of your Jim Jams might be easy, but nothing beats the energy and community of face to face learning.To watch the presentations of the 2025 Soft Tissue Congress head to https://mimt.edu.au👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Oct 28, 2025 • 41min
Episode 114: When It Doesn’t Go to Plan: Handling Client Feedback Graciously
Not every session goes to plan. Sometimes, even when you think you’ve done everything right, a client walks away disappointed—and lets you know it. In this episode, Jackie shares a recent experience that rattled her confidence, and David opens up about moments he’s missed the mark too. Together, they unpack how client expectations get misaligned, why intake forms matter more than you think, and what to do when feedback lands in your inbox like a gut punch. It’s a conversation about humility, growth, and holding your nerve when things don’t go your way.👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Oct 21, 2025 • 56min
Episode 113: Chantel Ryan - Getting Legally Healthy In Your Massage Practice
Policies and paperwork might not sound exciting, but they’re what keep your massage business safe, professional, and stress-free. In this episode, David and Jackie talk with Chantel Ryan, founder of Legally Healthy and former business lawyer turned naturopath, about the five essential policies every health practitioner needs, the legal blind spots therapists often miss, and why good documents protect both you and your clients.Listen to learn:How a lawyer became a naturopath and built Legally HealthyThe five must-have policies for massage and wellness practicesCommon legal traps in advertising and product salesHow clear policies strengthen client relationships👉 Find Chantel’s templates and resources at legallyhealthy.com.auFollow Chantel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/legallyhealthyau/FreebiesFor new businesses: Business Start Up ChecklistFor more established businesses: Legal Health Check for Health Practitioners Resources:Legally Healthy Knowledge Centre: Up to date guides andblogs for health practitioners: https://legallyhealthy.com.au/resources/ Newsletter sign up and 10% off: https://legallyhealthy.myflodesk.com/join-our-community👉 Got thoughts on this topic? Let us know on Facebook and on Instagram👉 Support the podcast: [buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast]👉 More episodes & resources: [foldingtowelspodcast.com.au]Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 8min
Episode 112: Jason Del Gandio - Vibes in Massage Therapy
In this engaging discussion, Jason Del Gandio, a philosopher and author focused on human energy, dives deep into the concept of 'vibes' and their significance in massage therapy. He explains vibes as the exchange of energy, highlighting how therapists can use touch for non-verbal communication. Listeners learn practical exercises for improving vibe awareness, strategies for shielding against negative energies, and how to create a welcoming therapeutic atmosphere. Jason also debates the importance of expanding our vocabulary around vibes beyond just 'good vibes'.


