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Welcome to the Punk Rock HR Podcast, hosted by the influential and unconventional Laurie Ruettimann. This podcast breaks away from the traditional constraints of the HR world to bring you candid and compelling conversations with some of the most disruptive and innovative minds in the business. Each episode, Laurie dives deep into critical topics surrounding the real world of work, exploring the modern workplace's nuances, and challenging the status quo of HR.Guests range from renowned thought leaders, authors, and entrepreneurs to HR professionals and individuals who have reshaped the way we approach work and organizational culture. Punk Rock HR is not your usual HR talk. It’s a blend of insight, wit, and irreverence, aiming to bring a fresh, unfiltered perspective to the challenges and opportunities facing today’s workforce.Whether you’re an HR professional looking to revamp your approach, a leader trying to understand the people side of the business better, or just someone interested in the dynamics of the modern workplace, this podcast is your ticket to engaging discussions and actionable insights. Expect energizing conversations, guests with big ideas, and a punk rock twist, with episodes released every Monday.Follow the Punk Rock HR Podcast to keep your finger on the pulse of work, leadership, and human resources. Your journey towards a more progressive and enlightened workspace starts here!
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Oct 26, 2020 • 36min
132: Food and Social Activism with Chef Pierre Thiam
Punk Rock HR Episode 132:My guest today is Pierre Thiam. He was raised in Senegal, but he is a New York-based chef, author, restauranteur, social entrepreneur, and culinary ambassador. Pierre is best known for bringing West African cuisine to the global fine-dining world. He is also the Executive Chef and co-owner of Teranga, a fast-casual food chain from New York City.Pierre’s company, Yolele Foods, advocates for small farmers by opening up new markets for crops grown in Africa. Its signature product, fonio, is found at Whole Foods, Amazon, and other retailers across America. Chef Pierre is on my show because I think he has an interesting perspective on COVID and what’s happening to small businesses, but also the climate crisis and, more importantly, leadership. We have an awesome conversation that highlights how an immigrant who got stuck in New York City can truly get things done. To learn more, sit back and enjoy this conversation with Pierre Thiam.In this episode you’ll hear:
Pierre’s origin story.
The intense food culture in which he grew up.
How important his life in Senegal was for his career.
What West African flavors and fonio are.
The multifaceted work that he does.
The connection between politics and food in the US.
His message for those who are feeling lost or worried about the current state of the world.
Resources from this episode:Laurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie Teranga's website Learn more about Pierre Yolele Food's website Yolele Foods on Instagram Pierre on Instagram ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Oct 19, 2020 • 28min
131: Chronically Capable with Hannah Olson
Punk Rock HR Episode 131:My guest this week is Hannah Olson. She is the co-founder and CEO of an organization called Chronically Capable. Hannah had her dream job right out of college but later contracted Lyme Disease. Her treatments for her chronic illness got in the way of her job. Frustrated, she thought there had to be a better way.So, she created that better way: Chronically Capable. It’s a technology platform, an ATS, and really a community that tries to match individuals with disabilities and chronic illnesses with employers who are thoughtful, progressive, and aim to support that community. It’s National Disability Employment Awareness month in America, a time when we recognize disabled and chronically ill workers and acknowledge their contributions to the economy. So, this is the perfect time to bring Hannah onto the show.Today, Hannah and I talk about her journey, her chronic condition, and what she’s doing to solve a problem that affects millions of people around the world. If you’re interested in what a 24-year-old entrepreneur is doing to change the nature of global corporations, sit tight and enjoy this conversation with Hannah. In this episode you’ll hear:
Some of the companies Hannah is working with.
Common language around the community she serves.
What employers have to say about hiring the disabled and chronically ill population.
Why hiring that population is good for businesses.
What companies can do to reach out to that population and let them know they’re hiring.
The origin story of Chronically Capable, what it does, and who it serves.
What her entrepreneurial community looks like.
How she makes sure someone’s condition and the job they’re placed in will be a good fit.
How to keep members of the disabled and chronically ill community once you’ve hired them.
Resources from this episode:Laurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with LaurieAbout Chronically Capable Library of Congress article on Disability Employment Awareness MonthHannah on LinkedIn ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Oct 12, 2020 • 13min
130: Compensation Truth & Lies with Laurie Ruettimann
Laurie Ruettimann, an expert in HR and workplace culture, dives deep into the truth about compensation in the workplace. She candidly discusses her experience with vague HR responses during interviews, exposing the disconnect in salary conversations. Laurie reveals how many popular beliefs about equal pay and transparency are misleading. She emphasizes the failures in performance evaluation and recognition, and challenges the efficacy of technology in managing compensation. Tune in for a refreshing outlook on the harsh realities of money at work!

Oct 5, 2020 • 29min
129: Unleash the Extraordinary with Brant Menswar
Punk Rock HR Episode 129:My guest this week is Brant Menswar. Brant is a top 10 motivational speaker, critically acclaimed author, award-winning musician, podcast host, and the CEO and founder of Rock Star Impact, a boutique agency that teaches people and organizations how to cultivate value-based leadership. Brant is also the author of a new book called Black Sheep: Unleash the Extraordinary Awe-Inspiring, Undiscovered You. And I'm so excited that he came by to talk about self-leadership, individual accountability values, and really finding your core values and purpose in your life. So if you like your motivational speakers to be former rock stars, which I do, sit tight and enjoy this conversation with Brant Menswar.In this episode you’ll hear:
How a sports injury led Brant to his career as a musician.
Why farmers don’t value black sheep as the rest of the flock.
How living through his son’s life-threatening cancer diagnosis helped him realize his own black sheep values.
How you know when you’ve made a good decision.
Why it’s vital we stop looking solely at results when it comes to promoting people in the workplace.
How to get in touch with your core values in the quiet moments before the storm.
What you should do to figure out what matters most to you so you can stop trying to be someone you're not.
Resources from this episode:Brant’s WebsiteBrant on LinkedInBrant on InstagramBrant on FacebookBrant on TwitterBrant’s Podcast Brant’s BookLaurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Sep 28, 2020 • 31min
128: Headspace for Work and Mental Health with Lindsay Crittendon
Punk Rock HR Episode 128:Lindsay Crittendon is the head of Headspace for Work. If you thought that was a meditation app on your phone, so did I. However, it is actually so much more than that. They work with businesses across the spectrum to help them identify the best ways to improve the workplace.Mental Health Awareness Day is coming up on October 5th. Honestly, it should be every day. We need to be having consistent conversations on this topic and on the effect work can have on our mental health. Today, Lindsay helps bring this to the forefront. She’s dedicated to making the world and the world of work a little bit better.In this episode, we’re talking about the benefits of mindfulness and more thoughtful behavior on the work environment and on our individual lives when we’re not working. We also talk about COVID-19. We use this opportunity to talk about how to emerge from this pandemic in a healthier way. If you’re interested in a conversation about well-being at work and fixing work, sit back and enjoy this discussion with Lindsay from Headspace for Work.In this episode you’ll hear:
Lindsay’s driving purpose behind what she does.
The vision of Headspace for Work and what they do to make it a reality.
How Headspace for Work defines mindfulness.
The challenges that are affecting workplace mental health and what to do with that information.
What a holistic mental health benefits program would look like in the workplace.
How mindfulness at work and Headspace for Work specifically can benefit people.
How to incorporate mindfulness into your workday, even if it’s not recognized as a priority by your employers.
How businesses and leaders can remove some of the barriers and lessen the stigma attached to mental health.
Resources from this episode:Laurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with LaurieLindsay on LinkedInHeadspace for Work main page2020 Mental Health Trends ReportHeadspace has special programming planned for World Mental Health Awareness Day and will launch an exciting new initiative around Employee Mental Health. Follow them on LinkedIn and stay tuned to be the first to find out about upcoming announcements! ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Sep 21, 2020 • 35min
127: COVID-19 Testing and PPE Q&A with 4 Oaks Ventures
Punk Rock HR Episode 127:Today’s guests are Robert Williams and Brian Baucom. They are the co-founders of a company called 4 Oaks Ventures. The team at 4 Oaks provides quality PPE and COVID-19 testing to employees and industries all over America.Robert and Brian are my neighbors in this community. They’re my friends. However, I also brought them onto the show to advise them on how to talk and work with HR departments to make clear the importance of quality PPE and COVID-19 testing and cut through the noise.We’re talking about the real issues behind the challenges of finding a PPE that’s not counterfeit or just disgusting and finding COVID-19 testing and strategies that really work. If you work in human resources, logistics, or marketing and you need to go back to work in an office at some point, this episode will be very helpful for you. Tune in for an informative and incredible conversation with Robert and Brian.In this episode you’ll hear:
The impetus behind Robert and Brian co-founding 4 Oaks.
Why they thought they could help when so many other organizations didn’t.
What the early days of the pandemic were like for them.
What Robert saw in the PPE testing market in April and where it is now.
Their particular area of response to COVID-19 and what they are providing.
COVID-19 testing and what it means for returning to work.
How their door to door service differentiates them in the marketplace.
What their interactions with multiple constituencies within organizations have been like.
What pool testing is.
Resources from this episode:Brian on LinkedInRobert on LinkedIn4 Oaks Ventures WebsiteLaurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Sep 14, 2020 • 30min
126: Revolutionizing The Workplace For Women of Color with Minda Harts
Punk Rock HR Episode 126:Today’s guest is author and speaker Minda Harts. If you have ever wondered who’s fighting for women of color to get a seat at the table, it’s Minda. Her book, Memo, has opened the doors for women and other authors to talk about what’s really happening in the world of work. On top of her nationally recognized book, Minda has a terrific LinkedIn account, a prolific blog, and great Instagram and Twitter accounts. Most importantly, she is an amazing podcaster and the host of the show, Secure the Seat. Minda is a self-proclaimed career revolutionary. Her goal is to leave the workplace better than she found it.In this episode, Minda and I are talking about her work, including her new book. We discuss where she gets her inspiration and passion for the content she creates. I’m so excited to talk to someone who’s kicking butt and taking names. Tune in to be a part of the conversation.In this episode you’ll hear:
The different mediums Minda uses to get her message out.
What her book, Memo, is all about and what lessons people can get out of it.
Where she learned the lessons she shares in Memo.
Her writing process for Memo and how she established her tone.
The origin story that made her who she is today.
How she knows she’s making a difference in her community.
How she responds to those who complain about what she says and does.
How to overcome imposter syndrome.
What success means to her.
Why she is excited about the future of work.
Resources from this episode:The Memo bookMinda on LinkedInMinda on TwitterMinda on InstagramMinda's website The Memo Virtual Experience Minda on Real Leader's 40 Top Women Keynote Speakers for 2020 List. Washington Post articleLaurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Sep 7, 2020 • 1h 3min
125: The Lies that Canceled Zach Ward
Punk Rock HR Episode 125:Today’s guest is my friend Zach Ward. He is the former owner of a comedy theater whose career was ended in 2017. Zach was canceled before it was trendy.Zach is someone who fulfilled a dream which many of us have. He came back home after college, created a community, and monetized his passion. But in creating that community, other things happened. Eventually, allegations were made against him and he was canceled. I want Zach to not only survive this tidal wave but rebuild his life. That is why I brought him onto the show. In today’s episode, we are talking about serious issues like cancel culture and sexual assault allegations. Zach helps us understand where his career began and the lies that eventually made it come to an end. My hope is that, by hearing Zach’s story and his commitment to transparency, we can all begin to pause and ask our own questions when we hear accusations. In this episode you’ll hear:
Zach’s college experience and how he came to open DSI Comedy Theater.
The smear campaign against DSI and Zach.
How he managed the rumors in the marketplace.
The Facebook thread in which he was accused of sexual assault and the details that made it untrue.
The collateral damage from those accusations.
How these lies followed him to his new job.
Social isolation and his perspective on it.
Takeaways for business leaders and professionals.
Resources from this episode:The Story articleZach on Twitter Indy Week DSI Comedy Owner news article Indy Week Misogny news article News Observer DSI Comedy Owner Steps Down news article DSI Comedy Insanity Reddit article News Observer Indy Editor news article NY Times Cancel Culture: Part 1 podcast NY Times Cancel Culture: Part 2 podcastLaurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie ***

Aug 31, 2020 • 26min
124: The Power of Empathy with Mimi Nicklin
Punk Rock HR Episode 124:Today’s guest is author and podcaster Mimi Nicklin. She is the author of Softening the Edge, a book all about empathy and how humanity’s oldest leadership trait is changing our world. Mimi believes that the ability to connect authentically with others has the power to shape not only our business environments but every part of our lives.Michelle Obama recently gave a speech and said that there is an empathy deficit among many people in power in our country. I feel that truth in my bones. Empathy is something so primal, yet so hard to achieve. Mimi’s big ideas drive the conversation around empathy into the world, which is why I brought her onto the show today.In this episode, Mimi and I talk about empathy. We discuss what it is, what it isn’t, and how you actually put empathy into practice at work. If you wonder how seeing someone’s perspective can help you be a better leader, listen in to this conversation with Mimi.In this episode you’ll hear:
A simple definition of empathy.
How to overcome the empathy deficit in our world.
Where to go to add more empathy into the world.
What it would look like to implement empathy training in an organization.
Why listening is so important.
How to balance the need for speed with the need to be seen and heard.
How to control your microcosms to create a ripple effect in your company’s culture.
Why Mimi is passionate about empathy.
Resources from this episode:Mimi’s websiteEmpathy for Breakfast Youtube Channel Softening the Edge bookMimi on InstagramLaurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

Aug 24, 2020 • 29min
123: The Future of Independent Workers with Carl Camden
Punk Rock HR Episode 123:Carl Camden is the former CEO of Kelly Services and the current president of iPSE-U.S. He has dedicated more than 25 years of his life to advocating for the independent workforce. This has looked like creating career opportunities and seeking justice for independent workers by challenging leaders to adapt to the future of work.In 2017 Carl assembled industry leaders, House members from both parties, and association leaders for an exclusive D.C. event. This eventually became the genesis for iPSE-U.S. Today, this organization partners with a variety of other companies to provide the protection that corporations offer to their employees for independent workers.In this episode, we talk about the differentiation between full-time workers and the gig economy and how often that differentiation turns people into second-class citizens. We also talk about the third rail of work, health-insurance benefits, and how iPSE-U.S. helps make it accessible to contractors. The gig economy covers everybody from Ph.D. scientists to delivery drivers and it could include you. So, if you have any interest in the topic, listen to my conversation with Carl. In this episode you’ll hear:
How Carl got to where he is today.
Where we are today in the world of work.
What Carl is doing to advocate for independent workers today.
How independent workers are treated differently in the workplace.
Independent work within marginalized communities.
Carl’s prediction regarding breakthroughs in this area in the next generation.
Resources from this episode:iPSE-U.S.Laurie on InstagramLaurie on LinkedInRead more from LaurieWork with Laurie ***EPISODE CREDITS:If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world.Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com