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Welcome to the Punk Rock HR Podcast, hosted by the influential and unconventional Laurie Ruettimann. This podcast breaks away from the traditional constraints of the HR world to bring you candid and compelling conversations with some of the most disruptive and innovative minds in the business. Each episode, Laurie dives deep into critical topics surrounding the real world of work, exploring the modern workplace's nuances, and challenging the status quo of HR.Guests range from renowned thought leaders, authors, and entrepreneurs to HR professionals and individuals who have reshaped the way we approach work and organizational culture. Punk Rock HR is not your usual HR talk. It’s a blend of insight, wit, and irreverence, aiming to bring a fresh, unfiltered perspective to the challenges and opportunities facing today’s workforce.Whether you’re an HR professional looking to revamp your approach, a leader trying to understand the people side of the business better, or just someone interested in the dynamics of the modern workplace, this podcast is your ticket to engaging discussions and actionable insights. Expect energizing conversations, guests with big ideas, and a punk rock twist, with episodes released every Monday.Follow the Punk Rock HR Podcast to keep your finger on the pulse of work, leadership, and human resources. Your journey towards a more progressive and enlightened workspace starts here!
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Sep 29, 2025 • 41min
299: The Human Cost of AI in HR with Scott Stratten
Scott Stratten, speaker and author joins Punk Rock HR to talk about the hype, fear, and noise around AI in HR. Instead of focusing on tools, he asks why they exist in the first place and what they mean for the future of work. From AI bots in interviews to the risk of HR jobs disappearing in the next 24 months, Scott brings the truth. He calls for the act of slowing down, asking better questions, and remembering that HR’s role is to defend humanity at work.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
Why interviews with AI bots are dehumanizing for candidates
The biggest red flags HR should watch for with AI adoption
How “efficiency” is often a cover for economic cruelty
Why HR jobs may vanish in 24–36 months without reinvention
What a pre-mortem can teach us about slowing down AI adoption
How referrals and relationships still drive most hiring
Why universal basic income is entering the conversation
The true value of HR: advocacy and human connection

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Sep 22, 2025 • 28min
298: Navigating AI and Global Work with Laura Maffucci
Laura Maffucci, VP of HR at Globalization Partners, shares her expertise on how AI is transforming the HR landscape. She explains the concept of 'Agentic AI' and its importance in safely managing HR tasks. Laura discusses the evolving nature of HR jobs, emphasizing that while roles are changing, human judgment remains vital. She highlights crucial strategies for safe AI adoption and the necessity of a strong global talent strategy in today's job market. Tune in for valuable insights on harnessing AI while preserving the human element in HR.

Sep 15, 2025 • 56min
297: Supporting Caregivers at Work with Blair Whitman
Blair Whitman, VP of Client Success at Homethrive, joins Punk Rock HR to talk about the stigma around caregiving, why it’s a workforce issue, and how companies can move beyond performative support. From personal caregiving stories to the ROI of real benefits, Blair shares how employers can create cultures that support both productivity and compassion.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
Why many people don’t identify as caregivers and why it matters
How caregiving impacts careers, especially for women
What managers can do to support employees under strain
The difference between EAPs and deeper caregiving support
How caregiving benefits deliver real ROI for companies
Why including men in the caregiving conversation is essential
The unexpected joy and beauty that come with caregiving

Jul 29, 2025 • 35min
296: Real HR with Robin Schooling
Robin Schooling, a luminary in the HR field, joins the Punk Rock HR Podcast for a compelling conversation about her new book, “Real HR: What It Is, What It Can Be, and How to Get There.”
Robin shares personal and professional milestones, including a health scare that inspired her to complete her decade-long writing project. Her story is one of resilience and passion, challenging the absurdities of the HR world and advocating for practices grounded in authenticity. Laurie and Robin explore the intriguing contradictions within the field, highlighting Robin’s unwavering commitment to reshaping HR into a more genuine and impactful profession.
The episode addresses common myths about HR, including the misconception that HR should handle all emotional labor and solely protect the company. Laurie and Robin argue for a more nuanced understanding of HR’s role in ensuring fair systems and highlight the growing importance of technology in the workplace. With anecdotes of resourcefulness in budget-constrained environments, such as utilizing emerging technologies like SMS-based chatbots, they showcase the ingenuity required to thrive in HR today.
This episode is a treasure trove of insights for those eager to see HR evolve beyond traditional confines, offering inspiration and innovative ideas for making significant strides in the field.
In this episode, you will hear:
Robin Schooling’s book, “Real HR: What It Is, What It Can Be, and How to Get There”
Insights into Robin's personal and professional journey, including a health scare that inspired her to complete her book
Debunking common HR myths, such as HR's role in emotional labor and solely protecting the company
Emphasizing the importance of fair and equitable systems in HR practices
Exploring the integration of technology in HR, including early adoption of tools like SMS-based chatbots
Resourcefulness in HR, especially in budget-constrained environments
Advocating for authentic, innovative, and impactful HR practices that challenge traditional boundaries
Resources from this Episode
Robin Schooling website: robinschooling.com
Connect with Robin on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/robinschooling
Find Robin on Threads: www.threads.com/@robinschooling
Get “Real HR: What It Is, What It Can Be, and How to Get There”: realhrbook.com
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Jun 16, 2025 • 42min
295: Well-Being with Christine Muldoon
Facing a brain tumor and navigating menopause were not challenges Christine Muldoon ever anticipated would redefine her role as a leader and a woman. Her story is a powerful testament to the resilience and empathy that arise from confronting personal health challenges head-on.
On this episode of the Punk Rock HR Podcast, Christine, Senior Vice President of Marketing and Strategy at WebMD Health Services, offers an intimate look at her journey toward well-being, highlighting the importance of self-care and robust support systems both at home and in the workplace.
As societal expectations shift, so too does the landscape of workplace well-being. Christine and Laurie explore the evolving strategies that now prioritize an employee's mental and emotional health in tandem with physical well-being. Christine's commitment to breaking down the stigma around menopause in the professional world is both inspiring and necessary, as she shares her vision for a more inclusive and understanding approach to women's health issues at work. Her insight is a reminder of the vital role organizations play in nurturing an environment where all employees feel valued and supported.
At the heart of the conversation is a call to action for organizations to create a culture of well-being that extends beyond mere programs. Christine details how WebMD Health Services is leading the charge with personalized initiatives like WebMD One, which seamlessly incorporates health coaching and wellness challenges to build a sense of community and connection among employees. By sharing success stories and emphasizing the need for open dialogue, Christine and Laurie hope to inspire a movement toward workplaces where well-being isn't just an afterthought but a cornerstone of daily operations.
In this episode, you will hear:
Christine Muldoon's personal journey with a brain tumor and menopause, and its impact on her leadership style and well-being focus
Evolution of workplace well-being strategies, emphasizing mental, emotional, and caregiving support
Importance of creating a supportive and inclusive work culture that addresses women's health issues, like menopause
WebMD Health Services' initiatives, such as WebMD One, to foster community and connection through personalized well-being programs
Role of health coaching and digital tools in enhancing employee wellness and setting personalized health goals
Breaking the stigma of menopause in the workplace and promoting open dialogue and education
Empowering organizations to integrate well-being into their culture beyond mere programs, enhancing productivity and employee satisfaction
Resources from this Episode
WebMD Health Services: https://www.webmdhealthservices.com/
4 Ways To Support Women’s Well-Being at Work: www.webmdhealthservices.com/resources/tip-sheets/4-ways-to-support-womens-well-being-at-work
Christine Muldoon on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/christine-muldoon-0417525
WebMD Health Services Podcasts: www.webmdhealthservices.com/podcasts
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Apr 7, 2025 • 36min
294: Why HR Posters Matter with Joel Stupka
Ever pondered the hidden complexities behind AI and HR compliance?On this episode of the Punk Rock HR Podcast, Laurie sits down with Joel Stupka, the Enterprise Partnerships Director at PosterElite and podcast host of HR Snacks. Using his expertise, they explore the unsung hero of HR compliance—the labor law poster. They also touch on the serious financial penalties businesses face for non-compliance. Joel shares how PosterElite’s innovative digital solutions transform how companies maintain compliance across multiple jurisdictions, ensuring they stay ahead of the ever-changing legal landscape.Laurie and Joel also dissect the experience of attending the Transform conference, a unique blend of networking and engaging discussions at The Wynn. While the conference focused on AI, Joel and Laurie reflect on the need for patience and human-centric solutions during rapid technological advancements. In this episode, you will hear:
The critical role of labor law posters in maintaining compliance and avoiding significant fines
Automating compliance processes to free HR professionals for more strategic tasks
PosterElite's digital solutions for keeping labor law posters up-to-date
Reflections on the Transform conference and the desire for more diverse and practical session topics beyond AI
The complexities and challenges of AI adoption in large organizations and its impact on HR compliance
The importance of human-centric solutions and the social implications of AI in the workplace
Patience and realistic expectations in the early stages of AI integration in businesses
Resources from this Episode
PosterElite: posterelite.com
Joel Stupka on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/joelstupka
HR Snacks Newsletter: www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7049840001571844096
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Mar 31, 2025 • 10min
293: Be a Great Moderator with Laurie Ruettimann
Have you ever wondered what differentiates a skilled moderator from a polished keynote speaker?On this episode of the Punk Rock HR Podcast, join Laurie as she unpacks her recent experiences navigating the challenging art of moderating panels. Unlike delivering a keynote, which thrives on preparation and repetition, moderating requires a balance of research, adaptability, and quick thinking. Laurie guides you through the intricacies of steering dynamic conversations, from understanding the nuances of your panelists to maintaining an engaging flow that captivates the audience.Laurie shares advice on preparation techniques, connecting with your panelists, and responding to the curveballs that inevitably come your way. It is crucial to embrace a flexible approach and anticipate potential challenges with a strategic premortem to create memorable experiences that resonate with your audience.In this episode, you will hear:
Contrasting panel moderation with keynote speaking: preparation vs. spontaneity
Importance of deep topic and panelist knowledge for successful moderation
Key strategies: optimal panel size, session duration, and engaging opening questions
The role of a moderator in guiding dynamic and memorable discussions
Tips for preparation: conducting a premortem and rehearsing flow
Resources from this EpisodeGlennon Doyle: momastery.com/blog/about-glennonFollow and Review:We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.Episode CreditsIf you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.Powered by the WRKdefined Podcast Network.

Mar 24, 2025 • 37min
292: The Power of HR with Joey Price
Joey Price, a thought leader in Human Resources and the author of “The Power of HR: How to Make an Organizational Impact as a People Professional,” joins Laurie to uncover the evolving landscape of HR in a digital-first world.This episode of the Punk Rock HR Podcast discusses the crucial role HR plays in shaping modern workplaces, focusing on transforming HR into strategic partners who understand the business motivations driving organizational change. Joey, the CEO of Jumpstart HR and Aspect43, brings his experience and insights to the table, empowering HR professionals with practical strategies to tackle challenges like automation and AI. Through engaging storytelling, they explore various career paths in HR, blending elements of law, technology, and marketing, and discuss ways to create a fulfilling and enjoyable work environment.Laurie and Joey’s conversation looks at the unexpected journeys many take into HR, including Laurie’s own, and shines a light on the critical skills HR professionals must develop to stay relevant. As AI increasingly influences managerial practices and team dynamics, they provide valuable resources for staying informed and proactive. Joey shares his philosophy of making work not just a job but a source of joy and satisfaction, emphasizing the importance of balance and fulfillment. He also highlights his collaboration with Aspect43, showcasing his dedication to supporting small businesses and enhancing HR practitioner experiences.Whether you're a seasoned HR veteran or just starting, this episode offers valuable insights to help you navigate the future of HR effectively.In this episode, you will hear:
The role of HR in a digital-first world, featuring insights from Joey Price
Importance of HR as strategic thought partners and the evolving HR landscape
Challenges and opportunities presented by automation and AI in HR
Exploring dynamic career paths in HR that blend law, technology, and marketing
Creating fulfilling work environments and the philosophy of joyful workplaces
The collaboration with Aspect43 to enhance small business HR experiences
Strategies for HR professionals to stay relevant and engaged in the future
Resources from this Episode
Jumpstart HR: www.jumpstart-hr.com
Aspect43: aspect43.com
“The Power of HR: How to Make an Organizational Impact as a People Professional” book: amzn.to/41xoF4W
Joey Price on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/joeyvprice
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Mar 17, 2025 • 11min
291: What Do I Owe People? with Laurie Ruettimann
Laurie's chaotic upbringing taught survival. Resilience revealed her true path.In this episode of the Punk Rock HR Podcast, Laurie draws inspiration from her unique journey and explores the balance between knowing when to offer help and when silence is the greatest gift. Motivated by Oprah Winfrey's thought-provoking question, "What do I owe people?", Laurie shares her insights, challenges the status quo, and inspires others to reflect on their own journey.Laurie shares her story of overcoming a high Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) score and turning adversity into significant personal and professional growth. Whether you're an HR professional, a leader, or someone curious about the raw truths of work and life, this episode is about finding purpose and resilience despite life's challenges.In this episode, you will hear:
Navigating adversity and finding purpose in life and career, especially in HR
Reflection on Oprah Winfrey's question, “What do I owe people?”
Personal journey from a chaotic childhood to professional success
The significance of resilience and transformation in personal growth
Insights into the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACES) scale and its impact
Balancing self-leadership with knowing when to help or remain silent
Challenges faced in the HR community and broader social issues
Resources from this EpisodePunk Rock HR Podcast: laurieruettimann.com/podcastACES Test: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean Follow and Review:We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.Episode CreditsIf you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.Powered by the WRKdefined Podcast Network.

Mar 10, 2025 • 38min
290: Career Development for Lawyers with Shauna C. Bryce
Harvard Law alum and Bryce Legal's CEO, Shauna Bryce, shares her journey from legal practice to transformative career coaching on this episode of the Punk Rock HR Podcast.Shauna shares her inspiring journey from pursuing a partnership at a law firm to becoming an entrepreneur and executive coach. She highlights how aligning our careers with our values can lead to a fulfilling life. Her insights are invaluable for anyone feeling the weight of the legal industry's pressures, providing a roadmap to finding authenticity and satisfaction in one's career while navigating the intricate landscape of law.We also explore the fascinating connections between capitalism and employee well-being, especially in high-pressure environments like the legal field. We highlight the incredible power of personal agency in tackling challenging work situations. Through inspiring stories of personal branding and self-perception, you’ll uncover how thoughtful self-representation can elevate your career to exciting new heights!Whether it's an undervalued attorney who climbed to the C-suite or a top executive reimagining her career from inside a toxic job, learn how to reshape your professional narrative and unlock new growth opportunities.In this episode, you will hear:
Shauna Bryce's transition from legal practice to career coaching for lawyers and executives
Aligning career paths with personal values for fulfillment
Challenges of capitalism and employee well-being in high-pressure legal environments
Strategies for personal branding to advance careers
Empowering lawyers to navigate workplace challenges and opt for authentic career paths
Success stories of career growth through rebranding and skill development
Overcoming disillusionment and societal expectations in the legal profession
Resources from this Episode
Bryce Legal: brycelegal.com
Shauna Bryce on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/shaunabryce
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