
The Innovation and Diffusion Podcast
Our podcast aims to generate easily accessible and engaging academic discussions on innovation and diffusion. We interview the leading thinkers around the world on new technologies and the way they change our world and economy.
Hosts: Ruveyda Gozen (@ruveyda_gozen) and John Van Reenen (@johnvanreenen)
The Economic and Social Research Council funds this podcast through the Programme on Innovation and Diffusion (POID) at LSE.
Latest episodes

Apr 16, 2025 • 48min
S2 E7: Capitalism without Capital, and Productivity Puzzles with Jonathan Haskel from Imperial College
In this episode, our guest is Jonathan Haskel from Imperial College and we talked about productivity puzzle in the UK, general productivity slowdown, intangible capital, and finance! Current Host: Ruveyda Gozen (@ruveyda_gozen)04:00 Productivity Puzzle in the UK 11:12 Productivity Slowdown and Intangible Capital29:25 Finance and Intangible Capital Investment35:34 Some “personal” questions!41:53 Game on! This or That?

Mar 7, 2025 • 39min
S2 E6: Inventors/Engineers, Directed Technical Change, and the British Industrial Revolution with Walker Hanlon from Northwestern University
Walker Hanlon, an Associate Professor in Economics at Northwestern University, dives into the fascinating world of the British Industrial Revolution. He explores whether necessity is indeed the mother of invention and discusses theories on directed technical change. Hanlon highlights the crucial role of engineers in this transformative era and examines how increased government intervention emerged from market failures. The conversation also touches on pollution's impact during the revolution and concludes with a playful dinner game featuring iconic inventors.

Feb 5, 2025 • 52min
S2 E5: Religion, Economic Growth, and the Protestant Ethic with Sascha Becker from the University of Warwick
In this episode, our guest is Sascha Becker from the University of Warwick, and we talk about religion, how it is related to economic growth, Max Weber's theory on the Protestant Ethic, Erasmus, Luther, power dynamics, and more!
14:00 Religion and Economic Growth
17:00 Max Weber and The Protestant Ethic Theory
21:47 Digging for the Data
28:28 Objections from Various Disciplines
32:15 Diffusion of Ideas, and Innovations
35:59 Power Shift, Luther, and the Church
46:05 Cheezy Questions!
49:55 This or That? Who are you going to write a book with?!

Dec 4, 2024 • 56min
S2 E4: Join the Green Growth Movement! with Robin Burgess from the LSE
In this episode, our guest is Robin Burgess from the LSE and we talked about the direction that the Environmental Economics is taking, new datasets, approaches, tension between economic growth, and climate change, and more!
Current Host: Ruveyda Gozen (@ruveyda_gozen)
Podcast Owners: Ruveyda Gozen (@ruveyda_gozen) and John Van Reenen (@johnvanreenen)
01:30 Deforestation and Political Incentives
06:25 The Direction of Environmental Economics
10:50 A Personal Story by Robin Burgess and His Production Function
14:30 His New ERC Grant and The Projects Ahead!
21:00 Economic Growth and Climate Change Tension
25:40 Whose Turn(!) to Pollute?
34:30 Green Policies
42:50 Cheezy Questions!

Nov 5, 2024 • 42min
S2 E3: Firms, Management Surveys, and Practices with Raffaella Sadun from HBS
Our guest is Raffaella Sadun from Harvard Business School and we talk about organisations, managerial culture and capital, competition, natural disaster managements, and more! Don't miss out!
05:30 Productivity, Management, and World Management Survey
13:00 Through Which Channels Does Management Affect Productivity?
15:00 Key Factors Behind Good Management
18:41 What is "Managerial Capital"? And How to Find Them?
22:30 Decentralisation, Top Down vs Bottom Up Approach
28:00 How Did Management Practices Change As a Response to the Pandemic?
31:00 CEO Pay, and Gaps in the Literature
37:00 Cheezy Questions!

Oct 2, 2024 • 48min
S2 E2: WW2, and Management as a Soft Technology with Michela Giorcelli from UCLA
In this episode, our guest is Michela Giorcelli who is an applied microeconomist and economic historian from UCLA. We talk about the evolution of managerial practices, how policies during WW2 affected management and productivity, the "American Way of Business", and many more!
Host: Ruveyda Gozen
Podcast Owners: Ruveyda Gozen (@ruveyda_gozen) and John Van Reenen (@johnvanreenen)
Time Stamps:
07:52 Historical Evolution of Management Practices
12:52 The Effects of WW2 on Management
20:55 Export of Management Practices to Japan
25:23 The American Way of Business
32:16 Cultural and Institutional Influences on Management
44:39 Gaps in the Literature
47:56 Cheezy Questions!

Sep 4, 2024 • 50min
S02 E01: Financing Innovation with Sabrina Howell from NYU Stern
In this discussion, Sabrina Howell, a Professor of Finance at NYU Stern, dives into the world of financing innovation. She explores equity versus debt financing, illuminating the life cycle of how inventions secure funding. Gender dynamics in venture capital and minority access to funding are hot topics, shedding light on disparities in entrepreneurship. Howell also emphasizes the government's pivotal role in supporting innovation through R&D grants, evaluating historical contexts and policy suggestions for future growth.

Apr 1, 2024 • 45min
S1 E10: More Inclusive, More Innovative! with Philippe Aghion from LSE and College de France
Our guest in this episode is Philippe Aghion! We talk about Marx, Schumpeter, creative destruction, capital accumulation, history, middle income countries, political economy, and more!

Mar 5, 2024 • 52min
S1 E9: Taxation, Inequality, and Innovation with Stefanie Stantcheva from Harvard University
Stefanie Stantcheva from Harvard University discusses taxation, incentives for inventors, wealth inequality in the US, zero-sum attitudes towards immigrants, and more with hosts Ruveyda Gozen and John Van Reenen.

Feb 13, 2024 • 48min
S1 E8: Power Dynamics, Elitism, and Innovations with Daron Acemoglu from MIT
Economist Daron Acemoglu from MIT discusses automation, declining labor share, education, democracy, and government actions. He also talks about the impact of social change on class dynamics, the relationship between automation and democracy, and the role of government policies in steering technological innovation. Acemoglu shares insights on his production function, influences in economics, and challenges in academic work.
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