Next Economy Now: For the Benefit of All Life

Future vision can be a powerful force for action when it is clearly conveyed and there is a genuine desire to bring it into reality. Today, Ryan Honeyman speaks with writer adrienne maree brown about the compelling and highly-detailed future visions that exist in works of science fiction, speculative fiction, and visionary fiction and how organizations can help articulate those visions into practical frameworks.adrienne is the writer-in-residence at the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute and the author of Grievers, the first novella in a trilogy on the Black Dawn imprint, as well as Holding Change, We Will Not Cancel Us, Pleasure Activism, and Emergent Strategy.  She is also the co-editor of Octavia’s Brood and the cohost of the How to Survive the End of the World, Octavia’s Parables, and Emergent Strategy podcasts.For the show notes, visit: www.lifteconomy.com/blog/ambSubscribe to Next Economy Now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pandora, Google Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you find podcasts.---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksSend us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

In this episode, Kevin Bayuk speaks with Heather Fleming, Co-founder and Executive Director of Change Labs, an organization supporting entrepreneurship and innovation in the Navajo Nation. Heather’s career in design and innovation began in Silicon Valley in transition from public sector innovation with Catapult Design, a product and service design firm with expertise in human-centered design for marginalized communities, which she founded in 2008 and led for a decade.For the show notes, visit: www.lifteconomy.com/blog/heather-fleming---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

Return guest, Edgar Villanueva is a globally-recognized activist, award-winning author, and an expert on issues of race and philanthropy, as well as the Principle and Founder of the Decolonizing Wealth Project (DWP) and Liberated Capital. His bestselling book, Decolonizing Wealth: Indigenous Wisdom to Heal Divides and Restore Balance, which was first published in 2018 and had its second edition published in 2021, has been called “a wake-up call to philanthropy.”For the show notes, visit: www.lifteconomy.com/blog/edgar-villanueva---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

Ben Cohen, as the co-founder of one of the country’s most beloved brands, is far from what you might expect. His company, Ben & Jerry’s, is a household name, yet they have managed to maintain a connection to the community and a deep ethos of care. Ben is an activist and has been involved in issues related to ending qualified immunity, getting money out of politics, taxing billionaires, dismantling white supremacy, and tackling climate change.For the show notes, visit: www.lifteconomy.com/blog/ben-cohen---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

Garrett is the Founder of the Barnraisers Project, which trains white people who don't think of themselves as activists on how to welcome their communities and networks into the world of justice and liberation. Additionally, Garrett also authors the White Pages newsletter, which reflects on white people’s relationship with racism and each other. For the show notes, visit: www.lifteconomy.com/blog/garrett-bucks---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

The connection we have to those who came before us is often overlooked in the contemporary world. Our guest today, Tamira Cousett, has dedicated herself to re-establishing her relationship with her ancestors, as well as helping others to come into communion with their own roots. Tamira is a mother, ancestral medium, ritual facilitator, and student of ancestral and earth-honoring systems.For the full show notes, please visit http://lifteconomy.com/blog/tamira-cousett---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

In today’s episode, we are joined by Cheryl Whilby from Soul Fire Farm,  who is here to share some of the inspirational work that they are doing around creating regenerative food systems.For the full show notes, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcast---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

Since the industrial revolution, and throughout the modern era, our connection to the ecosystems in which we live has dwindled, resulting in a lack of awareness and understanding about the relationships that determine our health and future. Tao Orion, author, and holistic ecologist has dedicated her time and energy to bringing this back to the forefront, and today on the podcast we have an amazing conversation with her about farming, forestation, and restoration.For the full show notes, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcast---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

Despite progressive policies around public school integration, culture has not caught up, and reality does not reflect what institutions have mandated. In her latest book, Learning in Public, passionate storyteller, writer, and journalist, Courtney Martin, shares how her sending her daughter to Emerson Elementary, a poorly-rated public school down the road from her home offered her a powerful place to dig deeper about the pervasive racial injustice in America. For  show notes, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcast---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show

Mark Watson, Founder of Keel Asset Management, is on the show today to talk about raising reparative capital, and the work he is doing on the vanguard of socially responsible investment. For detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcast---LIFT Economy NewsletterJoin 7000+ subscribers and get our free 60 point business design checklist—plus monthly tips, advice, and resources to help you build the Next Economy: https://lifteconomy.com/newsletter---Next Economy MBAThis episode is brought to you by the Next Economy MBA.What would a business education look like if it was completely redesigned for the benefit of all life? This is why the team at LIFT Economy created the Next Economy MBA (https://lifteconomy.com/mba).The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for folks who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective.Join the growing network of 250+ alumni who have been exposed to new solutions, learned essential business skills, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.Learn more at https://lifteconomy.com/mba.---Show Notes + Other LinksFor detailed show notes and interviews with past guests, please visit https://lifteconomy.com/podcastIf you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It really helps expose these ideas to new listeners: https://bit.ly/nexteconomynowTwitter: https://twitter.com/LIFTEconomyInstagram: https://instagram.com/lifteconomy/Facebook: https://facebook.com/LIFTEconomy/YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/LifteconomyMusic by Chris Zabriskie: https://chriszabriskie.com/Send us a textJoin Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. Learn more ➡️ bit.ly/NextEconomyLiving Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. Support the show