
Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
How will the future unfold? What is the impact of AI and other exponential technologies on business & society? Join Azeem Azhar, founder of Exponential View, on his quest to demistify the era of exponential change.
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Jan 26, 2022 • 44min
What Studying Consciousness Can Reveal about AI and the Metaverse (with Anil Seth)
The workings of the brain have long puzzled scientists and philosophers, but the last twenty years have been a golden age for consciousness research.
Cognitive and computational neuroscience professor Anil Seth is at the cutting edge of that work. He and Azeem Azhar discuss theories on how and why our brains work the way they do and explore how learning more about those questions could lead to new discoveries in medicine, AI, and virtual reality.
They also address:
How is it possible to scientifically study a subjective experience?
What is the difference between consciousness and intelligence, and can you have one without the other?
If a computer becomes conscious, but it doesn’t want to share its self-awareness, would we ever know?
@Azeem
@exponentialview
@anilkseth
Further resources:
‘What Is It Like to Be a Bat?’ – Thomas Nagel (1974)
Being You, Anil Seth – Penguin Random House

Jan 19, 2022 • 48min
Supercritical’s Mission to Help Tech Reach Net Zero (with Michelle You)
Companies of all sizes and sectors have committed to net-zero emissions targets, but getting there is not straightforward. Measuring carbon dioxide output is tricky, carbon markets are fragmented, and the quality of offsets varies hugely. Michelle You, co-founder and CEO of Supercritical, is on a mission to help companies better measure, reduce, and remove carbon emissions – and her first target is the tech sector.
Tech doesn’t attract as much criticism regarding emissions as some other sectors, but Michelle argues that tech companies emit more than the airline industry. She and Azeem Azhar discuss Supercritical’s approach and methods.
They also explore:
What product specialists, like Michelle, can add to the climate fight.
Why carbon removal is the only viable path to net-zero.
Why early-adopters of carbon removal technology are especially crucial to saving the planet.
@Azeem
@exponentialview
@wreckingball37
Further resources:
Decarbonization by the Numbers (with Michele Della Vigna) – Exponential View Podcast, 2021
Funding Innovation to Fight Climate Change – Exponential View Podcast, 2021
Building a Trustworthy Market for Carbon Offsets (PART 1) — Exponential View Podcast, 2021

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Jan 5, 2022 • 24min
Azeem’s 2022 Trends: Web 3.0, Sci-Fi Tech, and the Metaverse
Azeem Azhar sets out his vision for 2022 and shares the trends he thinks will change our world this year. Some changes are hurtling down the pike, like the growth of Web 3.0 and the metaverse, while others are rumbling along more slowly: the continued dominance of Big Tech, and the tireless march of artificial intelligence.
Azeem’s discussion touches on:
Why we should differentiate between “tech crypto” and “money crypto.”
Why the metaverse is so much more than Meta.
Why the “climate tech” tag might become obsolete.
@Azeem
@exponentialview
Further resources
Exponential View Newsletter
Is Three the Magic Number: My Take on Web3 (Exponential View Newsletter, 2021)

Dec 29, 2021 • 27min
Learning from 2021: Azeem’s Takeaways
As 2021 draws to a close and Covid cases spike, it’s easy to think not much has changed. But in between pandemic waves, we’ve made major progress in science and technology. And that progress gives us clues about how the future might play out.
Host Azeem Azhar reflects on the tech trends we’ve seen this year and key shifts in industry and society that are changing cities, the labor market, and the semiconductor business.
He also discusses:
Why semiconductor chips were hot property (and will only get hotter).
What people got wrong about the “death of the city.”
New media, the creator economy, and the “great resignation.”
@Azeem
@exponentialview
Further resources:
Exponential View Newsletter
Learning From 2020: Azeem’s Takeaways

Dec 22, 2021 • 44min
From Tech Investor to Author (with a16z’s Andrew Chen)
Andreessen Horowitz general partner Andrew Chen and host Azeem Azhar have something in common: they were both tech company insiders and early-stage investors before becoming authors. They explore why they decided to write their books, how writing intersects with their day jobs, and whether they’d do it all again.
They also discuss:
What selling a book online has taught them about e-commerce.
How the future for factual books has changed as publishing has decentralized.
What books can communicate that other media can’t.
@Azeem
@AndrewChen
@ExponentialView
Further resources:
Mary Meeker’s Internet Trends 1995-2019
Status as a Service (Eugene Wei, 2019)
The Cold Start Problem (Andrew Chen, 2021)
The Exponential Age (Azeem Azhar, 2021)

Dec 15, 2021 • 48min
How Quantum Computing Will Change Everything (with Chad Rigetti)
Quantum computing won’t be an incremental improvement – it will be a step-change in the power of the technology that underpins a huge part of our economy. Exponentially faster computing won’t just help us solve problems more quickly, but it will also allow us to tackle problems that have been impossible to answer and find answers to questions we did not know to ask.
Chad Rigetti, founder and CEO of Rigetti Computing, speaks to Azeem Azhar about just how revolutionary quantum computing will be.
They also discuss:
How quantum could usher in a new computing revolution.
Why having the lead in quantum computing is turning into the contemporary equivalent of the “space race.”
How quantum computing could change how we do science.
@Azeem
@ChadRigetti
Further resources
‘Building A Quantum Computer with Light’, (Exponential View Podcast, 2021)
‘Making Quantum Computers a Commercial Reality’, (Exponential View Podcast, 2021)

Dec 8, 2021 • 44min
Nuclear Fusion’s Time is (Finally) Coming
Nuclear fusion seems to have been “twenty years away” forever, but recent advances could mean fusion is finally on its way to becoming part of our energy mix. Azeem Azhar speaks to Nick Hawker, co-founder and CEO of First Light Fusion, a UK-based company that uses an approach it calls “projectile fusion” to generate energy.
That method uses an electromagnetic launcher to fire material towards fuel at high speeds. Nick explains why it’s one of the most promising approaches to a problem that has puzzled physicists for decades. He breaks down the challenges, both extraordinary and mundane, that fusion experiments involve.
They also discuss:
Why First Light Fusion’s system could generate power more efficiently than the sun.
When the first fusion reactor could plug into an electrical grid.
How many lasers it takes to turn on a light bulb.
@Azeem
@FLF_Nick
Further resources
Investing in Deep Tech for an Abundant Future (Exponential View Podcast, 2021)

Dec 1, 2021 • 48min
Grading AI: The Hits and Misses
Murray Shanahan, professor of cognitive robotics at Imperial College London and a senior research scientist at DeepMind, joins Azeem Azhar to discuss AI: where developments have exceeded expectations, where they have fallen short, and what the next steps are towards an artificial general intelligence (AGI).
They explore the hurdles that stand in the way of truly intelligent computer programs: why an AGI might need to exist in a body that can sense the world around it to reach its full potential, whether we can teach computers common sense, and what it means for a self-driving car to “think.”
They also discuss:
What the future of AI may have in common with the aeronautical ingenuity of the Wright brothers.
The pros and cons of the various approaches to AI from symbolic models to convoluted neural networks, transformers, and generative models.
Why huge salaries for commercial deep learning engineers might actually hinder research.
@mpshanahan
@exponentialview
@Azeem
Further resources:
AI’s Competitive Advantage (Exponential View podcast, 2021)
How To Practice Responsible AI (Exponential View podcast, 2021)
‘Conscious exotica’ (Murray Shanahan, Aeon, 2016)
State of AI Report 2021 (Nathan Benaich and Ian Hogarth)

Nov 24, 2021 • 53min
Technology and Redistribution of Power (with Yanis Varoufakis)
Former Greek Finance Minister, economist, and bestselling author Yanis Varoufakis joins Azeem Azhar to discuss his speculative novel Another Now. In that book, he presents a world where mass organization, technological progress, and an overhaul of companies and markets have made society more equitable. Like all great science fiction, the book is as much about the present as the future.
Yanis is an advocate of blockchain technology and “one person, one vote” structures, as measures to redistribute power. He and Azeem discuss how tech could change our world for the better – if we use it judiciously.They also discuss:
How Yanis’s proposals for a Greek digital currency ran aground.
Where COP26 fell short.
How equitable technological progress could lead us to a “Star Trek”-like utopia.
Further resources:
How Taiwan is Using Technology to Foster Democracy – Exponential View Podcast, 2020
‘A Central Bank Cryptocurrency to Democratize Money’ – Yanis Varoufakis, Project Syndicate, Jul. 2021
‘Cop26 is doomed, and the hollow promise of ‘net zero’ is to blame’ – Yanis Varoufakis, The Guardian, Nov. 2021

Nov 17, 2021 • 46min
The AI Revolution is Just Beginning (with Nathan Benaich and Ian Hogarth)
Artificial intelligence had a breakout year, with major new developments in disparate fields, from medical biology to defense. AI investors Nathan Benaich and Ian Hogarth, who co-author the annual “State of AI” report, join Azeem Azhar to explore why AI is thriving in those sectors. In addition, they offer their take on the flood of new investments in AI and how we can best keep this technology safe for humanity.
They also discuss:
Why AI is fundamentally changing how we research medical science.
How an AI system developed to learn the English language can be adapted to understand gene sequences.
How the bottlenecks in AI deployment are being exploited by states for competitive advantage.
@azeem
@exponentialview
@nathanbenaich
@soundboy
Further resources:
State of AI Report 2021 (Nathan Benaich and Ian Hogarth)
AI’s Competitive Advantage (Exponential View podcast, 2021)
How To Practice Responsible AI (Exponential View podcast, 2021)
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