
#SistersInLaw
Politicon brings the brilliant team of political and legal masterminds together for Politicon's #SistersInLaw.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
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Nov 23, 2024 • 59min
211: Attorneys General
Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Matt Gaetz’s withdrawal from contention for attorney general in favor of Pam Bondi by looking at whether his appointment was a strategy to make her seem more palatable and the negatives she brings to the table. Then, the #Sisters detail the guardrails being erected by governors, a coalition of state attorney generals, and ordinary citizens to defend our constitution from the 2nd Trump administration. They also explain the status of Trump’s cases in GA and NY, what will happen before he takes office and the fate of his co-conspirators who have already pled guilty.
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Pam Bondi’s Canine Custody Battle
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Nov 16, 2024 • 1h 3min
210: Risible
Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to investigate Trump’s cabinet appointees, exposing Matt Gaetz's improprieties and threat to the rule of law, Pete Hegseth’s troublingly light resume and lack of executive experience, and RFK Jr.’s advocacy of conspiracy-laden medical misinformation. Then, the #Sisters discuss the future of Jack Smith’s prosecutions, looking at what we can expect from his final brief and the national security ramifications of the dangerous precedent Trump has set by failing to protect classified materials. They also debate the ability of the SCOTUS to serve as a check on the presidency and emphasize the role lower courts' have in the battle for our democracy.
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Gaetz May Not Mind The Law. DOJ Staff Must.
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Nov 9, 2024 • 1h 3min
209: Searching For Answers
In the aftermath of the election, Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to answer your questions. The #Sisters cover the guardrails that can protect the country from Trump, what happens to his criminal cases and convictions, the effect of the election on his sentencing, and why the civil cases and judgments against him might prove to be the best tool for holding him accountable. They also discuss the spread of disinformation, how to limit the dangers of social media, why people might have split their vote, getting the facts out, how to break out of our echo chambers, and more.
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Will the Trump Prosecutions Go Away?
Defending the Truth in a Second Trump Term
Post-Election Analysis with U-M Faculty Experts
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Nov 2, 2024 • 1h 9min
208: The Election
The hosts dive into the wave of election lawsuits by the Republicans and their challenging tactics on mail-in ballots. They discuss the influence of money in politics, critiquing Citizens United and Elon Musk's controversial financial offers to voters. The importance of the DOJ in protecting electoral integrity and fighting voter suppression is emphasized, alongside the legal complexities surrounding voter rights. Personal reflections on managing stress during the election period add a heartfelt touch to the conversation.

Oct 26, 2024 • 48min
207: The Million Dollar Question
Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to look at the validity of Republican lawsuits challenges to the election, explain how they’re using them to create an aura of legitimacy around future claims of election fraud, relay their progress in the courts, and share the reasons we should be confident in the system. Then, the #Sisters break down the defamation suit against Trump brought by the exonerated Central Park Five and discuss why civil judgments seem more effective at holding MAGA accountable than criminal verdicts. They also explore the free speech issues raised by Ruth Ben-Ghiat’s cancellation by the Naval Academy and the difference between process and substance when it comes to the 1st Amendment.
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Ruth Ben-Ghiat’s Substack
From Kim on how courts are rejecting Trump’s attacks on elections
Broken Relationships Museum
Kjartansson/The National- A Lot of Sorrow
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Oct 19, 2024 • 48min
206: Shenanigans
The hosts dive into Trump's latest legal maneuvers, focusing on his attempts to delay evidence in the election interference case. They explore new developments in voting procedures and debunk disinformation about undocumented migrants voting. Analyzing recent court rulings, they stress the importance of election integrity and the threat of misinformation. Personal anecdotes about music and karaoke add a lighthearted touch, while discussions on voting rights highlight the fight for a fair electoral process. It's a mix of legal insights and engaging stories!

Oct 12, 2024 • 56min
205: Kakistocracy
Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss the dangers of hurricane disinformation, the risk of fraud, possible legal remedies, and a case in California targeting Exxon Mobil for lies about the recyclability of oil-based plastic products. Then, the #Sisters cover the charges in an ISIS-inspired election-day terror plot, the progression of criminal complaints compared to a grand jury indictment, and the other risks posed by extremism in the run-up to November 5th. They also sound the alarm over Project 2025’s threat to disaster relief via privatization and its limitations targeting reproductive healthcare and STI treatment.
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Joyce’s Substack, Civil Discourse, Hurricane Rumor Response
Joyce’s Substack, Civil Discourse, Women? Or Human Incubator?
Trump Upgrades His Con To Category 5
Judge McBurney’s Opinion in Sistersong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective V. Georgia
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Oct 5, 2024 • 1h 11min
204: A Nothing Burger
Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Judge McBurney’s ruling striking down Georgia’s 6-week abortion ban on personal liberty grounds, the danger of making life or death medical decisions based on politics, and the problems caused by pushing abortion laws back to the states. Then, the #Sisters analyze the merits and effectiveness of Jack Smith’s brief in Trump’s J6 trial, investigate whether there will be new revelations, and tear apart Trump’s claims of election interference by the DOJ. They also preview upcoming SCOTUS cases on transgender care for minors, ghost guns, social media securities law, and removing an inmate from death row.
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Sep 28, 2024 • 53min
203: Put Through The Wringer
Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to explain Jack Smith’s presidential immunity brief regarding Trump’s actions on J6 in his D.C. court case, the reasons why it’s sealed, how it distinguishes between presidential and private actions, and the next steps in the prosecution. Then, the #Sisters discuss the indictment of NYC Mayor Adams, the evidence, and what to expect as the case goes forward. They also lay out the charges against the man who recently tried to assassinate Trump and the differences between trying the case in federal versus Florida state court.
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Sep 21, 2024 • 1h 19min
202: Live at 92NY
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Correction:
Students may vote where they are enrolled in school, and other voters may vote only where they reside.
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